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Kevin Kelly - The Inevitable


Kevin Kelly is the founding executive editor of Wired magazine, and a former editor/publisher of the Whole Earth Review. He has also been a writer, photographer, conservationist, and student of Asian and digital culture. To win a copy of Kevin’s new book, The Inevitable, just share your favourite quote from the episode on Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram along with the hashtag


00:00 | Trailer
01:48 Brian’s thoughts on the episode
04:32 Brian’s Introduction
05:00 Kevin’s image of London and how he sees the city as an incredible VR experience
09:21 Why people are increasingly migrating into cities
12:31 The evolution of Wired magazine
18:56 Kevin’s perspective on California and Silicon Valley and why it happened there
22:58 Changes in student job opportunities over the decades and the work that attracts millennials
24:56 Making a living versus making a fortune
27:54 The burden of a billionaire
30:06 Kevin thinks greatness is over-rated
32:11 How Jeff Bazos manages his emails
33:45 Kevin’s ‘1000 True Fans’ article and how it applies to London Real
41:35 Memories of Wired, a magazine that felt it had got mailed back from the future
48:50 The genesis of Kevin’s new book The Inevitable
53:15 AI is as fundamental as the invention of printing
56:46 VR will offer experiences rather than knowledge
1:05:18 Teaching AIs ethics
1:06:41 Optimists decide and form our future
1:10:04 In the future every aspect of our lives will be tracked
1:14:32 What Kevin saw in 1970s Asia to make him realise that progress is good
1:22:16 Recollections of Terence McKenna
1:23:54 Trying psychedelics at 50
1:26:16 A concept and a gift Kevin wants to pass on to his children
1:29:31 What he means by “the common wealth”1:31:24 A look into a future influenced by AIs and genetic engineering
1:35:14 Human evolution is now going faster, posing many questions for us to consider
1:40:00 Success secrets
1:47:24 Kevin’s interpretation of God whom he believes exists
1:50:34 Not everyone agrees with Kevin on this suspicion
1:52:04 The challenge of engaging people in abstract ideas using modern communication
1:58:09 The successful person who has changed America’s culture without making enemies
2:03:00 Phone call to the 20 year old Kevin
2:06:23 Best advice Kevin has ever received
2:08:25 Advice to the 20 year old who will live in the future world he predicts
2:13:11 Brian’s summing up.


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