Geoff Thompson - 99 Reasons To Forgive: And Revenge Ain’t One

Full transcript: Geoff Thompson on London Real

3:14 This is London Real. I am Brian Rose. My guest today is Geoff Thompson, the author, filmmaker, BAFTA winning screenwriter and martial arts expert. You were an early pioneer of street fighting techniques for self-defense and one of the highest ranking martial arts instructors in Britain. You’re also voted Number One Self-defense author in the World and invited twice to teach for Chuck Norris in Las Vegas. Your first book, Watched My Back, was a Sunday Times bestseller and recounts your violent past as a nightclub bouncer in your hometown of Coventry.

3:44 Since then, you’ve written almost 50 books, and your work has been featured in GQ, The Independent, The Guardian and The Times. You have screen written three feature films and seven shorts, starring actors like Ray Winstone and Orlando Bloom. With your second film, Brown Paper Bag. Winning a BAFta. Your latest book, 99 Reasons to Forgive, explores the life-changing power of forgiveness based on your own harrowing experiences.

4:08 And reminds everyone of the power they have within to change their lives for the better. Geoff, Welcome back to London. Sounds good when you say that. I think I, I sit around half the time, but I’m thinking I haven’t done anything, I’m not doing enough. Then you read that, and it’s sometimes it’s good to remind yourself, isn’t it, where you, where you’ve been?

4:28 But thank you for thank you for receiving my call and for letting me come on and talk about the book. I really appreciate it. I’m super excited, you always have an open invitation here, you know that? Geoff and I just posted a picture today on Social of the first time we Met, which was over 10 years ago. Right for your first episode, and I didn’t know much about you.

4:47 I had heard you were this big, scary martial arts guy, and then along you walk in the door. I know, yeah, that wasn’t true, was it? Yeah, it’s very interesting. You’re such a fascinating, nuanced character, and so you came in the door and you talked a little bit about martial arts, but we talked a lot about the spirit. Yeah, and you always do that.

5:07 You’ve had a fascinating past. I can’t wait to get in the book into the book, but maybe for people that don’t know much about you, they probably just heard that intro, and they’re like, Who is this guy? Who is Geoff Thompson? How do you tell people who you are in a couple minutes? Yeah, really, which I don’t think you can, really, can you?

5:26 I mean it. And often that’s been a problem with people when they’re when they’ve been promoting me, they don’t really know what angle to come in at. But I basically I was a kid that suffered with depression and this massive creative urge, but nowhere to put it, you know, I was abused when I was 11. that left me with a quite a damaged scheme, and so I was quite afraid of the world. I really wanted to explore the world, but I was also afraid of the world. I didn’t trust people.

5:50 So I was this scared kid with this massive energy, this creative energy. And because I didn’t find an outlet for it, it created like a log jam or a like a root band. Later on, as the depressions got worse, you know, I, I can remember having one particularly bad depression. When I was in my early twenties and thinking, I just can’t live like this anymore, I can’t, I can’t live through this. This feeling came into my life, like in Agrigor, like a spirit, and just took over.

6:24 It just destroyed me, battered me. I didn’t want to leave the bedroom, and then other times the other times I didn’t want to get out the covers. And the next minute I was smashing the house up in a rage. So I got this massive energy of me, but no outlet for it. I came from a working class background, which was, which isn’t important.

6:43 I don’t. I don’t really think much about class other than the fact that I was conditioned to believe that this was my lot. And not just by, you know, the middle classes and the higher classes, but by my own class. You know, if you, if you talked at all about wanting to do something creative, you know they’ve battered you like a beach seal. It’s like, Don’t be pretentious, don’t get above your station, who do you think you are?

7:06 You know, you’re not anybody? I used to find myself going, Oh, I know, I know I’m not anybody, I know I’m not anybody. But of course, we all know we are, we all know that we have a singularity, we have a geometric point, don’t we have a. We have a soul, a self in there that is connected to everything and it wants to explore it, wants to explore. He wants to trip the light fantastic. So there was just this one point where these depressions visited like a, You know, like a bullying stranger.

7:34 And came into my life and took over for a few months and said, We’ll stay as long as we want. And, you know, we’ll kick your door down and we’ll leave you frightened to leave the house. You’ll be following your wife around the house like a puppy because you’ll be so afraid you’d be afraid to live. And I remember reaching this one point where I was terrified of my own biology, got this massive energy. And because I didn’t find an outlet, this energy grew voices and obviously attracted.

8:03 It’s like, You know, this energy was spilling at me, so it attracted beast and fowl. I was attracting negative energies from everywhere. I was a [expletive] magnet, so we’ve got all this energy. And I remember saying, I remember I remember this was probably my first connection with spirit. When I just, I thought, I can’t live like this anymore, I can’t do this.

8:22 I remember I remember buying books and watching films, and, you know, look, reading the blurb on stuff. And it would say, This is how you overcome fear, this is how you overcome depression. And I’d read it, I’d come out with excited and thinking There’s hope, and then I’d read it and it was a lie. It wasn’t telling the truth. It certainly if they had the truth, they weren’t telling it, they weren’t courageous enough to tell it, or they perhaps.

8:48 You couldn’t articulate it, but it didn’t give it me, and I realized later it was leading me to find it for myself. So this one particular time, I just thought, I am not living like this anymore, I’m going to do something about this and boom. This concept nucleus in. They would call it in Judaism. This idea fell into my mind about it.

9:08 I mean, the whole concept of the Fear pyramid write down everything you’re afraid of confront every fear. And that’s. And just suddenly there was a light curiosity, curiosity. The brain can’t process curiosity and fear at the same time. So I got this curiosity, and I thought, I’m going to confront everything I’m afraid of, so I’ve got things like, I’m afraid of spiders, I’m afraid of dentists.

9:30 I was afraid of going into karate tournaments. I was afraid of admitting that I was afraid and I thought, Well, I’ll write those down. And so I wrote them down and started to confront the things I was afraid of, that I knew I was afraid of, and I realized there’s a deep Brian that they were placeholders. So behind those fears, you know, I realized I wasn’t really afraid of spiders, I was afraid of the physiology. The, You know, the feelings of adrenaline.

9:57 So I developed a desensitization to the feelings, so I realized I did enough control of my physiology. I had lots of poor conditioning, I had lots of old scars, lots of things that triggered adrenaline that would send me running, you know? So I started to climb this fear pyramid and confront one fear at a time. And as I confronted the fears, I realized there were fears below those fears. So there’s a fear of my wife, you know, I was absolutely afraid of my wife, you know, and I, I didn’t admit I wasn’t afraid.

10:28 I used to just say anything for a quiet life. But if you said jump, I’d say, Do you mind if I finish the Hoover Room first? You know, it was that kind of thing I didn’t. I didn’t like that feeling of conflict, I was afraid of my mother. I’ve never had a tattoo because I was afraid of my mother.

10:43 I was afraid of my mother withdrawing love. I was afraid of success, I didn’t know what success was, you know where, where we grew up. Success was like, just some random. You know, six or seven figure deal for a book that you know that you read about in the newspapers. Or someone that has an amazing idea and makes a fortune from it just something random.

11:03 But we didn’t know what success was, so success frightened us. You know, people from my class. And so when I started to write these things down, I was afraid of success. I was afraid of what success was. I didn’t understand it, I was afraid of the rigor I’d have to do in order to understand success.

11:21 I was afraid what success would do in my life. What happens if I become an author? Brian, You know, will my wife like that? My wife was terrified of my ambition. You know, how would my friends feel if they’re if they’re pissing in the trough next to someone that’s on Richard and Judy?

11:36 Yesterday he was just one of the guys, now he’s on Richard and Judy. How a lay coat with that, not very well, as it turned out, you know, people didn’t cope with it because suddenly I went from being Geoff, the factory worker to, you know, Geoff, a published author, or Geoff, you know, that’s on the telly or Geoff, that’s on the radio. And people didn’t know how to. They didn’t know how to process that, you know, and I started, you know, so I got this fear for him, and I’m climbing up it and I’m confronting all these things. I suddenly become covered in tattoos because I’m just.

12:11 I suddenly feel free, and I realized what I realized man was I wasn’t overcoming fears, necessarily, I was finding fears recognizing that the fears contained energy. And they blocked energy, or they contained light and they blocked light or they contained consciousness, and they block consciousness. They also processed consciousness. If I’ve got a block, if I’ve got a fear, a light comes into me or consciousness. It’s going to go through the filter of that fear and project onto the world, you know, from my fear, so my life’s a shitstorm.

12:45 It’s because it’s coming through that filter, so when I remove that when I come, when I overcame that fear, I converted the nature of the fear. And it was liberated. And the effluence that was in the fear expanded into me, so I got a wider consciousness. I take. I took away the negative filter, so I’ve got to clean the filter and I also made room.

13:09 I created a vacuum, so I there was a vacancy in me that was filled with consciousness. So every time I contracted by removing a fear, I expanded in consciousness and consciousness is the spirit. You know, it’s living, it’s Pan Psychic, it’s got and it’s got consciousness. So as this, as the spirit expanded in me, the spirit started to walk around and work around like an antibody. Getting rid of other fears.

13:35 We can convert this fear, we can convert that fear. So I, I, this has taken me a long time to fully understand. I wasn’t overcoming a fear, you know, as they say in the Bible, overcome evil with good, it means overcome ignorance with knowledge it means overcome. It means I’ve overcome fear with consciousness or overcome a demon with consciousness. So as I kept expanding, as I climbed up the pyramid I was.

14:01 I was literally removing old filters, converting old fears and making room for life. So I was growing exponentially. So the kid, the kid that was, you know, scared to leave the house. And with all this block was suddenly like, You know, coming from here, you know, from the damn tien. My dantdm was clear, well, not completely clear, but clearer, and I was expanding, so I became almost unrecognizable.

14:30 So I’ve gone from this skinny, articulate, kind of slightly feminine, long,-haired young guy to be in this guy. That’s, you know, wherever the fears are, I’m going to overcome them. Some of them were very subtle, so I started to challenge conditioning was a fear I started to challenge perceptions, cognitions, precepts, concepts. I started as I started to get more energy, I could concentrate and I could. I could.

15:01 Normally our energies dissipated, isn’t it? It’s in, it’s in 10,000 things you know, so I was able to. This new energy was able to concentrate on what reality was, and I realized that the more consciousness I had, the freer I could be. Because there’s less rules, you know, suddenly, I’m not a guy with the family that has to do a factory job. I’m a guy with skills and knowledge, and I can become a full-time trainer.

15:25 People said to me, You can’t train two times a day. I said, Well, I’m training two or three times a day. I’m doing a full-time job, so I said, I think I can think I can train full time. I said I worked on the On the On the building site carrying a heart. I said, Believe me, you know, you don’t get much time to rest, I said.

15:43 It is one of the most difficult jobs we’ve ever done. I’m pretty sure if I’m doing martial arts, full-time training, good people I can do, I can, I can train three times a day. So all of these beliefs I had to were dissipated. And it’s because of this pyramid. So this period, with this pyramid I’d learned to create, and again, I’m only understanding this now.

16:04 Brian, I learned to create what the what they’re calling Judaism. I think it’s Judaism or Islam, the ishmus, this filament or firmament, or this floating bridge between opposite energies. You’ve got a positive, you’ve got a positive energy, a negative energy, and you place yourself between those two as a conductor or as a separation or a connection, and you’re able to create and harvest spirit, or tinctures of wisdom or energy, or the philosopher stone. There’s a lot of different names for it. So I realized this pyramid I’ve got.

16:45 Have you imagined like a like a bulb, a light bulb? You’ve got a negative terminal, a positive terminal, a negative terminal and then a filament between the two and the. The light is created by the two forces becoming a third force, which creates the fourth force of spirit. So that’s what I was doing, so I was like and to and to fund that, or to make that work. I was burning up, I was burning up my old fears, my old beliefs.

17:15 That was the oil for the lamb. That was the conscious that was the concentrated consciousness being kind of used as fuel. So I was converting the negative into the positive. I mean, in simple terms, you want to go to the gym because you know it’s good for you. You don’t want to go to the gym because it’s hard work and it’s very difficult.

17:36 Or you want to get up at four in the morning. We spoke about this before, but you know, it’s difficult to get up at four in the morning. When you place your soul or your will force between those two energies and you get up at four in the morning. You create light, you create light, and then once you’ve created light, you bring that light. You bring it through the body so you.

17:57 You’re creating energy or harvesting energy, you’re conserving it, you’re training it, and then you’re imposing it into the world. And whether you impose that, like, if I can, can I just show you, so whether if you just stand up, so whether you, whether you so if I wanted to, just from here, yeah, so if you’re just, yeah, so I can go from here, see, that’s I can put that energy into a tiny little punch concentrated thank you or I can. I can put it into a punch or I can put it into health. I can put it into a relationship. I can put it into a business.

18:39 I can put it into the imposition of hands, which is the transference of spirit. Well, that you know this, what they call the, yeah, the imposition of spirit or the putting on of hands. So you can touch somebody and transfer that energy, and it’s coming through positive filters because I’ve converted the negative filters into positive filters. So if you imagine like a cinema screen, most people are trying to fix their life at the end at the level of the screen. But really, we need to go back to the projector.

19:15 And if you’ve got a horror film going through the projector, no matter what you do to the screen, it’s always going to be a horror film, so my job is to go in and change the film. That’s the filters, that’s the perceptions, the cognitions, the precepts, the concepts, the rules. So I said, as you start getting higher in consciousness, literally by converting anti-consciousness with this with the antibody of spirit, there are less rules. Because suddenly I don’t have to go to work. If we don’t want to.

19:51 I don’t have to do 10 hours a day and retire at 65 with a [expletive] pension. You know, in the Gold Watch and nothing to do, I’m not sure what to do. I can change all that because I can see that’s possible because as my consciousness expands, I think, Well, that’s possible. And then I go, Oh yep, I’m afraid to do that because my wife says, What do you mean? You want to give up your job and teach full time, What does that mean, how will you make money?

20:15 I said, I make money from teaching. Well, what does that mean? So there’s a cognitive dissonance, so my wife’s afraid I won’t be able to make the rent, so I’ve got a lot of fear to stop me. So that goes on the pyramid. So the fear of becoming a full,-time martial artist, you know, many times it took me to do that, to give up a job.

20:34 It took me three, three, goes. I gave up my job and was frightened back into conventional work, I gave up my job and found myself drifting back into conventional work. I’ve gave up my job running down the street at six in the morning, thinking, This is my job, this is. I can’t even believe this is possible and I’m going and teaching in colleges. And I’m thinking, This is my job, you know, and I’m telling people how I did it, and they’re really interested.

21:02 This is my job. Is this before or after you were bouncing? This was, this was all the way through. So as I climbed the pyramid, my final fear on the pyramid wasn’t the final fear, but it was a the final. Fear on that pyramid was a fear of violent confrontation.

21:18 So I got a job as a nightclub dormant, but by this time I’d expanded my consciousness. I’ve become more aware I’d given up my job working shifts. I was now. I was working on the building site, hard carrying, and I took myself into college during this time and became a bricklayer. So I became skilled, so I built up my confidence and suddenly I was able to see that.

21:43 It was possible to stand on a nightclub door. Just to overcome this fear of confrontation and also to. I wanted to see what martial efficacy was, I didn’t know what it was, I didn’t know what worked and what didn’t. Everyone was saying you to block an encounter. It’s a trapping a counter, it’s about the grappling.

22:01 They’ve all got these ideas. But listen, I was in a fight in a pub when I was 15 and I knew that there wasn’t a place for all that. It was like a cartoon fight with clouds and arms and legs coming out. It was sporadic and spontaneous and ferocious, and if you fell on the floor, someone would jump on your head. It was.

22:19 It wasn’t like the stuff I’d seen in the Dojo. But when I asked people in the dojo, they didn’t seem to be able to give me an answer. And when I said to them, do you feel afraid? they would say no? And I thought, Well, maybe it’s just me. But of course I realized later when I worked with veteran Dorman that everybody was afraid.

22:37 It’s just for how they managed it. So I got to the top of the pyramid and I got this fear of confrontation. So I took a job as an actual abdomen. As you do to try and overcome my fear of violence, people would not see that act as a higher level of consciousness. No, in your mind it was, yeah, most people would think, why would you put yourself in such a potentially low energy situation?

22:59 Yeah, violence and confrontation, this isn’t Coventry, and people don’t know. Probably one of the roughest places. Yeah, you start to fight in an empty room because there was energy there, so what did you learn? I well, what I wanted, what I learned, what I’m learning now at my age now at 63, was that lots of my. I didn’t know what a lot of my fears were, so when I went onto the door they were projected in front of me.

23:23 It was metaphysical, it was the greatest metaphysical experience of my life, so all of the fears I had in me were projected. I could see them queuing up, and each of those fears contained a tincture of light of consciousness. And when I overcame those fears, I expanded again and expanded again. So the door itself, you know, when I went on the door, I could tell you I learned from John Anderson or I learned from Colin Maynard or these different peoples. But really, there was an aggregor, there was a there was an overriding spirit, an arc in spirit.

23:53 I said, Oh, this is Geoff. And he wants to understand ethical efficacy and martial arts. This is who he is, this is where he is, this is what he’s got. He’s got enough courage to stand here. So if he’s prepared to let go of what he thinks he knows, we’ll show him what works.

24:08 And I learned very, very quickly that the only con the only consistent, effective work in martial arts for real violence was preemption. But to do that, you needed to be able to control the pre-fight. Energy, fear, control, the infight, control, the post fight because there’s always a lot of post fight fear. You have to understand what works and what doesn’t work. You had to understand the whole nature of that world, you had to kind of pick it apart.

24:39 We kind of became like magicians because you suddenly learned to read the pre-fight signs in people you could tell when they were going to fight. I could look down the queue and see a guy that was going to start. I could see into the future. I could see a guy that was going to start a fight in an hour’s time. So I’d go down the queue and say, You can’t come in, so I was starting to get a sense of these sitters, these miracles.

25:01 So the real environment enables you to see. But only because I stood there, I couldn’t have done that, you know, I couldn’t have done that from a classroom, you know? Arjuna Pandava didn’t overcome the battle at Guru, Etc. And the bag of Vegeta from a classroom. He overcame the battle in the middle of the battlefield.

25:19 So I’m in the middle of this door, and I absolutely unequivocably know that blocking a cartoon trapping and counting does not work it. You know, I’m gonna die if I’m not thirst. And I knew that if I went to the floor, you know, like in a grapple or grab somebody that was deadly as well. Because you’re never dealing with one person, and you’re very rarely, you always presume that everybody’s carrying. So all of these things.

25:45 It’s like I stood on the door and they became obvious. I could just say I became a seer, so I thought, Well, what does work? And then I’ve found that preemption worked and he worked every time. Then I started to use, I started to develop a system called The Fence, where I would put this invisible force between me and other people. Sometimes I’d put my hands there and other times, you know, and it would be in, in effect, in offensive.

26:10 So if I’m standing in front of you, Brian, if you just jump up, yeah, yeah, I won’t do anything. But so when I was talking to people, I’d just be talking to people like this, so it’s pretty empty, isn’t it? But if you move forward, right, it’s what I mean, right? And then, of course, if I wanted to, I could attack from there, but so it’s not offensive anyway in any way. But it’s if you move forward again, it’s an absolute barrier, right?

26:31 You’re not going to move anywhere near me, so I’ve created this fence. Thank you for answering Prevent something from happening and you’re ready, but they don’t know they’re being control, right? You’re ready to strike first if you need to, and I need to strike first. And then I also, obviously I learned to understand the adrenals I could control mine, which meant I could control there so I could use sound. Or I could use touch to trigger that adrenaline switch you don’t, or I could use common words to cut close it down.

27:01 So the environment showed me. First of all, this is what works. Nobody went to the ground, nobody, because if you went to the ground, somebody would jump on your head. That’s it, we’ll class you or whatever. I’ve probably told you before, but four of my friends were murdered during my time as a bouncer.

27:21 You did not go to the floor, it was there, it was part of your system. It was a backup. But you didn’t go to the floor and you didn’t wait to be attacked, so you learned to control the situation. And as I got deeper and deeper into it, the agriculture says, Well, how much do you want to know? This is what works physically, but this is just Lesson one, and nobody really knows this.

27:44 You know, nobody’s really teaching this. People are, either they don’t see or they’re afraid to teach it. So I started teaching it and it spread around the world. That’s why Chuck Norris got me over to teach for him because he wanted to understand my concept of preemption posturing. Fear.

28:00 So what did he think of your assistance? Well, he invited me over twice well, he’s invited me over three times, so that’s what he thought of my system, but he was a very lovely guy. So the Edgar Gore says This is this is lesson one people don’t know this, which makes you a magician. So I’ve got a little bit more knowledge than somebody else. Which meant I could take most people out in most situations, didn’t have to be a great fighter, I just needed to understand it.

28:25 Using, I would use a little bit deception. Maybe ask a question, Engage the brain, throw a punch, and I’ll get a knockout most times. That’s because I understood more as I started to understand more and more. Yeah, Google said, What do you want to know more? And I go, but I really want to understand this.

28:46 So I started teaching it, and as I started to teach it, I understood more again. I understood that This is this is the pal, this is what was inspiring. This is what really inspired me was that every person that Q Doctor fight me was a projection from me in reality. And this is the highest level of spiritual practice. I could have done nothing and it would have disappeared.

29:08 I’d got these fears in me. They sat in me. Like parasites, they’re projected through the filters of my consciousness, and I literally saw them and the infrastructure queuing up to fight me. I was in hundreds of fights not because I look for fights, but because I was a [expletive] magnet because I believed it. And he said, Your wife, at one point you said, This city is so violent and she said, No, Geoff, wherever you go, yeah, I said, I said, Yeah.

29:35 Everywhere I go in this city, there’s a fight to go to funerals or go to weddings or go to Christensen’s. I’d knock somebody out at a christening and people bought me a drink and patted my back. And it was like, she said, It’s everywhere you go, and that was a very powerful thing. She taught me, so the aggregor was saying, All of this is in you, you can fix this at the level of the projector. I mean, I was out in the world trying to fix stuff.

29:57 But once I realized that because at that point I had weapons in every room of my house, I had weapons in my car, had a baseball bat in my car all the time and I got pulled by the police once and the police said. What’s that baseball bat for? And my friend said, You should have said this for cheeky coppers, but which I didn’t. I’m glad they didn’t, but it’s everywhere I went. There was a weapon and that was because that was that was what I believed, and that’s what I projected.

30:22 And everywhere I went, I created violence and I created the infrastructure of violence. Pubs, nightclubs, bars, powerful. That’s powerful, that’s perception. Once I understood that, and I absolutely found a certainty with it, I thought, Well, I need to see whether this is true. So I stopped teaching violence, I stopped talking violence, I stopped writing about violence, I stopped immersing myself into it.

30:47 I stopped working on the nightclubs, and I started to fill my house with books, Bibles, you know, all sorts of iconography from, you know, from the esoteric spiritual stuff. And miraculously, all of the violent stuff in my life contracted, the nightclubs closed down, there was no violent people around me. Some of the clubs just aren’t there anymore, they’re just gone. You know, the houses, you know, they’ve been knocked down and, you know, made into something else. One was made into a hairdresser, which is absolutely no help for me at all.

31:23 Last time I went into a hairdressers, they charged me a search fee, so it’s I. I had created this through perception and I dissolved it through perception. So when you look at my life now, I live in a gray, two listed barn in a field on an old farmyard. You know, very close to where Shakespeare was born, and I’m expecting my writing to improve anytime soon. So that’s a that’s not a change of location.

31:50 Brian, That’s a change of perception, right? But the but so Diego was saying, You’re creating all this, all of this, it’s what you focus on. This is one of the messages of Jesus, the Christ did Jesus. You’re focusing on this, and because you’re focusing on it and you believe it, you’re creating it. So my job isn’t to try and fix an insoluble world my job is to is to fix me, which is absolutely fixable.

32:17 To do that, I have to go in not out, so I have to contract in order to expand consciousness. So the fear pyramid is my whole. Life is just about the acquisition of energy, the conservation of energy, the training of the energy and then the imposition of the energy. And I don’t make a decision around that because I’ve got this spirit coming into me. You could call it the Holy Spirit or the Divine Mother or the philosopher’s stone.

32:49 It’s got lots of different names, but it comes in it coast the soul, it christs the soul, so the soul expands and then it comes in and it. You impose it into the world where you’re directed, but before you can do that, of course, the processes that we need, you know you don’t, you don’t just put a filament into a light bulb. It has to be tempered, it has to be tempered so it can take tremendous forces of energy, tremendous forces of energy. Otherwise it would just burn out. And it needs protect and it needs to be in a hermetically sealed bulb, and it needs to be protected.

33:22 It needs to be protected by Inert gas, otherwise any oxygen gets into it and the filament blows. So we’re the same. It’s not good bringing in more energy if we, if we’re, you know, if we’re a holy bucket, if we’ve got loads of leaks. If I’m losing 10 on Twitter and 50 on Facebook and 100, you know, on sexual pornography and another 50 on, you know, violent pornography. And another 10 on idle gossip.

33:55 You know, if I’m losing energy like that and I’m aware I’m already in deficit, which most people are, then it’s no good bringing in more energy because it just pisses out and this energy is rare. It’s fine, you know, it’s Ushiba called it attract the attractive forces. And if it leaks out here, Brian, what does it do? It’s got a scent, it’s holy, it create it attracts beast and foul. It attracts dark forces because they want to feed off that and they want a project to poke it out of you.

34:27 So you have to be hermetically sealed and to be hermetically sealed. You have to go in and you have to go on, need to get rid of that belief. I need to get rid of that perception now, get rid of it, but convert it. I need to challenge that parasite. I was abused at 11 and the abuser left a parasite in me and it’s been feeding off me for three decades.

34:48 That needs to go because it’s blocking energy, it contains energy, and it’s a filter for the energy that I am bringing in. Because the energy that’s coming in is coming through this filter and it’s also stolen. Something of mine is stolen. Part of my autonomy, it’s actually sat on my causal body like an aberration needs to go takes a tremendous amount of courage. So when I wrote Retaliation, that Orlando Bloom starred in which you kindly said you enjoyed, that was a way of processing that.

35:24 When I wrote my play fragile, that was a way of exercising this demonic, parasitical force. And as I, as I converted it into light, the light became a light. Yeah, so when I write a film and it’s got truth in it, that will go out and it will act as a light. So I’ve converted darkness into light. But to do that with the play, for instance, I had to sit in front of an audience.

35:49 And not thinking, They’re going to hate me, they’re going to think I’m a deviant, my wife’s gonna. Because of some of the stuff I revealed in it, the wife, my wife is going to leave me. My agent’s gonna slap me. My kids are going to be ashamed of me. These are all the thoughts that this energy was throwing at me.

36:06 I even broke my ribs on the day of the play to stop me from going. I didn’t, you know, yeah, and I said, I don’t care if I have to crawl, I’m going to watch this play and everybody. We put this plan called fragile. And it was so potent and so full of truth that they had the Samaritans at the door every night. One of the one of the five star reviews said It’s the only play I’ve ever been to where there’s Samaritans are at the door.

36:30 But it was in Exorcism, Brian because it wouldn’t need their support as they were, that’s what they felt. Yeah, and but all the people you thought would hate you and think you’re a deviant. Because I, because one of the one of the byproducts of being sexually groomed and abused is self-abuse and sexual self-abuse. So I abused myself sexually, didn’t even know I was doing it my hand. I couldn’t even trust my own hands in the dark.

36:55 So for years and years, this person who I hadn’t seen for decades, I was quantumly entangled with him. Yeah, he was still in me and the only way I was going to get rid of him was to exercise him and to exercise him. I needed to bring all of that darkness into light. And I was blessed because I was in front of audiences every night to help me to clean the energy. Because afterwards people were crying, people were hugging me.

37:22 The complete opposite to what this parasite had said to me right now, the danger with Paris. I’m sorry to interrupt you. Brian’s no, no, okay. The danger with parasites is that when they rise and we engage them, they we think they’re us. We think it’s our thoughts, right, but even worse, they think they’re us.

37:39 So when these thoughts come in, we think it’s us and we have to learn to differentiate, we have to learn to discern. They call this the sword of discernment. And it’s a, and it’s a Siddha, it’s like a grace, so we go, that’s, you know? They call it the discernment of spirits. That voice is not a good voice, so I’m going to dismiss that I’m not going to engage you.

37:58 Reality exists at the level of engagement. That’s what the door taught me. If I don’t engage these violent thoughts, eventually they’re just going to perish. So the story of yours of 11 years old is present in much of your work. Yeah, and you open this book, talking about it very, very quickly.

38:16 Within the first 10 pages, it’s in very much so in the movie with Orlando Bloom. Yeah, and when I watched that movie, I know you, Geoff, and I’m like, Wow, this is so autobiographical. What’s happening here? Yeah, the audience connects to it because even they don’t know what happened to you, they know it’s real, it’s it connects with humans. I was at your TED talk when you gave that at Lemington Spa and you talked about it in your TED talk.

38:44 It’s a big part of what this book is about. Can we talk about it? Yeah, because you’re making some thoughts and illusions to it, but it’s a big part of you. Yeah, and I remember when you said that play fragile, you were worried about It’s your mom and your wife and everything. Yeah, particularly your mom you were.

39:00 This is the first time she was going to hear you talk about your abuse and when she saw it, she’s like, Oh, that happened to you. Yeah, yeah, it’s powerful. One of the things that a parasite does you could call it would call it a semi-autonomous thought form or pain body. More of the things it does to defend itself basically throws out all sorts of assertions and threats. If people hate you, don’t talk about it, don’t bring it to light, don’t expose it, you know, people will be ashamed of you.

39:31 So I recognize from my time on the door that you know, if there’s a fear that means that there is energy, there’s energy to be converted, there’s light to be converted. Three things like I said before. One is contains light, it blocks light and it also filters light. So this there’s three pluses there. And believe me, once you confront these things, you do expand you.

39:54 Do you do know more when I come away from here today after talking to you? We’re going through a process now of the imposition of spirit we’re, we’re exchanging spirit and putting out into the world. I will, my, my consciousness will have expanded a little bit, I’ll know a little bit more and I’ll understand a little bit more. Because I am converting something into light. And that light will go out and have a life and somebody will watch this.

40:19 And if they’re feeling inspired, if they’re feeling inspired by it, then the spirit has entered them. If they feel angry, so they feel angry. Because I’ve mentioned God, or you know, if they’re offended by the fact that I carry rosary beads, that’s good. I’m their teacher. Because the spirit has entered them, it’s shown them something.

40:38 Because if you’re afraid of a three-letter word, if a three-letter word makes you throw your slipper at the telly wherever you are, if it makes you throw the slippery, if you’re angry at me, then I’m your teacher, that’s a Dharma gate. Why are you angry? What does it block you from? What does three letters block you from three letters blocks you from The Old Testament? The New Testament, the Torah, the Kabbalah, which is which is the esoteric part of the Torah, blocks you from the from the Zohar. Which is the which is the quantum.

41:10 Part of the of the Torah blocks you from the Tanya, which is another commentary on the Torah Block shoe. It blocks you from Krishna, blocks you from the gita, blocks you from the Mahabharata, blocks you from the Srima Bhagavatan. The Vedas 500 000 Verses 500 000. And that’s just that, you know, so that three words is a concept nucleus. So if that, if that word offends you, I would say, turn, take, take no notice of me, turn away from me, turn in and have a look at that word, because that word, if you don’t.

41:42 If you’re offended by God, you’re not going to go to those books, you’re not going to open those Dharma gates. Because somebody’s told you all religion, religion is responsible for all wars and all this, and we don’t even question it. So I’m saying that word is a Dharma gate. You can go in through that Dharma gate, and it’s like an acorn, you know, with an acorn. It’s a seed.

42:03 It’s a concept nucleus that has the potential to grow into a 200 500 year old oak tree, and that oak tree has the potential to grow. Another million acorns and each of those million acorns has the potential to do exactly the same in. Add infinitum, so each concept nucleus. We get each spark of wisdom and sometimes it comes in offense. Sometimes you know, you’re offended by something.

42:30 Each concept nucleus if you unpack it and you develop it. Like I said about developing and training the energy it has, the it has an infinite potential, so every single concept nucleus contains. All of God contains all of everything. If we’re prepared to do the work that book there, for instance. You asked me a great question at the beginning and you said You’re asking about the book?

42:55 And I said, I’ll tell you where it came from. I was trying to explain to people the power of forgiveness, and I couldn’t, or could I’d experienced it. I’ve forgiven somebody and I felt this release and this freedom, and I couldn’t really understand it. So in my meditation, I said, I’m trying to talk to people about forgiveness, but I can’t. I don’t really understand it myself.

43:18 I only understand its power, I understand that it is. A. It is a an attribute of God, it contains all of God, but I don’t really can’t articulate it. I’m talking to people, they’re not getting it. So I said, Can you bring me something? So I can pass it on to other people?

43:34 And this book came through me all of it, but not just on its own. It came with 110 hours of lecture from The Tanya, which is one of the one of the due date commentaries. And the and 110 hours of lecture was nearly all on repentance. Repentance means return to return to good or to repair or to find refuge. It’s mentioned in all the different faiths, so it was less about how to forgive somebody.

44:01 It was more about how to locate our own, to locate our own sin or our own errors or our own mistakes, and convert them to life. Because they block energy, they contain energy, they filter energy. That’s why we’re not. I’m not forgiving somebody who abused me for him, I’m doing it where there’s two, two things, really, he’s got something of mine. One of the things that the rabbis of law would say is if you see somebody that’s offended.

44:30 You run after them and serve them because they have something of yours and you need it back and you have something of theirs and you’ve got to give them that back. So they have something of yours, they’ve stolen part of your autonomy, they’re in your mind, they live in their rent free. Your autonomy is not your own because your decisions. Every decision I made after the time I was abused was informed by that abuse because I was so afraid. So this person had my, my autonomy and all of the abuse I did with my fists.

45:01 And all of the self-abuses I did on myself, sexually on my own body were all attacks and rapes on me by a spirit coming through my hands. I didn’t have control of my own hands, couldn’t even trust my own hands. It took me a long time to even understood that. I was like, I was kind of so distracted by the 10,000 things. I didn’t see it until I started to expand consciousness, and I thought, Oh, there’s a core to this.

45:28 So when I met the person eventually and the universe put me in front of the person and I forgave him, I didn’t pardon him, haven’t got that power. Unless he’s contritely remorseful, nobody can pardon him, even the even the courts can go into prison, can’t pardon him. You have to be contritely remorseful, so I couldn’t forgive him, but what I could do is give him over. I could recognize the power of reciprocity, the force of reciprocity, cause and effect. You know, the power of equal and opposite returns.

45:57 I could give him over to that, which is what I did when I forgave him. I gave him over to that force, so the parasite that was in me, I gave it back to him. And of course he’s got the chance to repent if he wants to, but he didn’t. So that same energy that I gave to me, I gave him back, and when I gave him it back, I released it from my causal body. Yeah, they call it the bliss body or the body of the body of the body of causation.

46:26 It’s the closest body to the soul, and that’s, you know, that’s where we create chords in the world. I took it off my causal body and I and I, I gave it to him, so I got my own autonomy back. And he got the parasite he’d given me. Now I’m not even attacking him because the parasite that was in him is A is a bigger energy. It’s like it’s like tentacles working through lots of people, you know, like, if somebody gives you a virus, you’ve got a virus, you don’t batter them because they give you a virus.

46:56 You know, you recognize you’ve got the virus, you’ve got to clear out of your body, and that’s what you do. You get the antibodies and you clear it out. But this other person, he’s got my compassion because he’s still got the virus, and he didn’t repent it, or, you know, we didn’t do that. He ended up killing himself in a hotel room in London. And all I felt of him was tremendous compassion.

47:18 Because he was infected by, he was infected by a force that he infected me with. But I was able to see it and give it back to them. And then the forgiveness, that’s what forgiveness was forgiveness. Out of that cafe, you felt like Expand Dude, an expanded man. I was expanded, but when my consciousness expanded, I didn’t just see that I didn’t see that he’d given me a parasite.

47:42 I also saw that I didn’t need to confirm myself too much of what others had done to me. I batted people for 10 years. Brian When I met this guy in the cafe, I was a monster. I was a lump. You know, I could kill in 30 languages, you know, I was.

47:56 I was training with international judo car, I was training with wrestlers, I was training with [expletive] people. I was training with boxers at the on the world stage. You know, I was training that high level in karate. I was a I was a bouncer, so I knew my way around a real fight. I had the ability to do that and I knew I knew that if I was physical with him, it would feed the virus in him.

48:17 So violence feeds violence, pain bodies, as Eckhart says, feed pain bodies, drama, feeds, drama. So I had to find a consciousness or a perception above that, and the perception was, I’m going to trust that if I give this back to you, I’m gonna trust that. Reciprocity will settle its own accounts, which it does. Nobody can escape the consequence of their actions. But I did an interesting thing, but I didn’t realize what I’d done for 30 years.

48:50 I injured him before I forgave him. It’s what they’re saying in the Zohar before you forgive somebody first injure them. And it means it’s very difficult to get a parasite out of you. Because what most people do, like the guy that abused me, he would have rationalized what he did. He would have believed it was a relationship, even though I was only a child.

49:14 Because he’s got a, he’s got a parasite in him himself. He would have rationalized it, he would have been able to look at the truth because the truth would have devoured him, so he rationalized it. So he would say things like, You’re very special, and I can’t tell you what it is about you. That’s special because, you know, it might frighten you. And so he thought it was legitimate, he thought I was complicit.

49:32 I’m 11., as I say in the play, I’m 11, I’m 11, my level, I’m [expletive] 11. Do you mean complicit? I was 11., You know, you can’t be complicit. I’m a child. So when I when I saw him, I told him that. And that’s what they call injury.

49:47 Before you forgive, so you weaken them, you say everything you’ve said is not true. There was no complicitness, there can be no complicitness. What you did to me. [expletive] me. It damaged me, it came in the night and it damaged me and it and it’s altered the trajectory of my life, put me out that much.

50:09 When I was 11., I was out like by a country marble. At the time I was in my early 30s and jumping on people’s heads and kicking their teeth out. So I injured him first by saying, This is the truth of the matter now I forgive you, and that’s the power of it. So I was free if I’ve got, if I’ve got a resentment in me, if I’ve got an anger in me. If I’ve got a confusion in me, a dissonance, if I, if I’ve got an ignorance in me, if I’ve got a vengefulness in me, all of that binds me to the to the nature of my resentment.

50:43 I am quantum, quantumly entangled, and what they say in quantum entanglement is the is the remedy for quantum entanglement is quantum entanglement. In other words, entangle deeper, go beyond it. So this is this is a perception, this is a cognition, this is a belief. This is a scar on the psyche, a schema that I can go beyond perception. We spoke before Brian about the singularity, the geometric point, the self, the soul in each of us, it’s a real place that’s beyond perception, it’s beyond cognition, so entanglementing God entanglement in Faith Christ, whatever you want to call it is going beyond the entanglement of any kind of perceptional belief.

51:35 So it’s like the ultimate panacea, it’s the ultimate antibody. People think that compassion is weak, they get quite offended, but I think because you haven’t really experienced it and I understand that. But I’m talking about going to a place where every perception is wiped out, every fear is wiped out and we fix it up, we fix it. At the level of the geometry point, that’s the work, that’s the work that’s good, Geoff said. Well, Madame D. Salzman said it was she was one of his top students.

52:03 Madame De Salsman This powerful woman. You know, in one of the greatest exponents of good, you have fourth way. Are you doing the work? Yeah, I’m understanding the intellect, you chain intellectual things, but are you doing the work while you’re doing the work? Are you doing the work?

52:19 I love that she was so direct because the intellectual coming intellectuals were coming and they would say stuff, and she’s saying, Yeah, but are you doing the work? The bottom line is you say you want to change the world, but your force don’t have a way you can’t change your own waist measurement. Don’t tell me you’ve got autonomy. When you’re being tapped out by cigarettes 30 times a day, you feel you’ve got you say, You’ve got autonomy, you want to change the world. But you can’t stop yourself from gossiping about somebody outside Costa on a Friday afternoon in Judaism.

52:47 When they go into the microcosm, they’re really serious about their work. They say that gossip is murder because we’re assassinating character. That’s the level they take it to. And they say that embarrassing somebody is drawing blood because the blood comes up and they flush. You know, how deep do you want to go, what we think, what we say, what we do goes out as spirit as energy and has an effect in the world.

53:15 So why would anybody intelligent want? They, once they know that, think or say or do unkind things? You wouldn’t, because it’s all going to come back. Can you talk about that in the In the section on Reciprocity, right? I think it’s part maybe two in the book where it’s not just Karma.

53:30 You go deeper and deeper and deeper on this, and that goes through generations. Yeah, it all comes back, and the older I get Geoff, the more I realize this is true. I mean, the energy I put out comes back to me. Yeah, sooner or later, sometimes quickly. Yeah, sometimes delayed, but it always comes, but it’s so real and so hard for my scientific brain, my M.I.T. engineer brain.

53:51 Yeah, to feel that, but it’s obvious. Well, that’s a shift in consciousness. That’s a shift in perception, and we’re not going to get that shift while we’re full of fossil fuel. While we’re full of, you know what? We’re full of meats and overeating and over drinking and indulging in stuff.

54:06 We’re not going to have the energy to go outside the stratosphere of old perception. We need to find out energy, we need a rocket fuel. I remember talking to a an RAF guy in my house. Once he was with some martial arts friends of mine, and I said to him, It’s probably ignorant to say this is about 20 years ago. I said, But what’s to stop your jet just going straight out the stratosphere?

54:27 And he said, Energy haven’t got the fuel, he said. I won’t get out, I won’t get out of the energy on jet. For listed, I’d need rocket fuel, I’d need a greater fuel to break the stratosphere. And I remember thinking, He’s talking, it’s cryptic, but he’s talking about perception. We won’t break old perception with, we won’t break old perception and go into new perception.

54:49 With fossil fuel, we need to contract, we need to get a finer fuel and that fuel is called spirit. The Holy Spirit in Alchemy, they call it the philosopher’s stone in Japanese akita, they call it the attractive forces Chi ki prana numa. There’s lots of names through. I’ve studied it, I feel it, and I’m led to study different areas and you find the same reference points. So we have the ability.

55:16 You know, the soul is a light, the soul is a tincture of this, but we have the ability to expand the soul. In other words, to they call it being Christ did so. The soul is magnified by placing ourselves between these two forces as of as a as a filament. We can christ ourselves, but before we do that, we need to make sure the body’s tempered. Which I said before we need to be.

55:40 We need to make sure that we are hermetically sealed. So we’re not leaking all over Twitter, we’re not leaking all over Facebook, we’re not spurting our seminal energies into a tissue. You know, watching, watching, abused, demonically abused, you know, porn stars. We’re not doing any of that, we’re not contributing to all that. We, we’re bringing the energy in, we’re conserving it, we’re training it and we’re imposing it in a beautiful way.

56:11 Either it’s in a beautiful way or we don’t impose it at all. But there is a responsibility to keep it moving. Because if I bring it in and I don’t take it out, then it’s going to curdle and it’s going to spoil. And then when it spoils again, that you know, they say in the Bible, it attracts beast and fat. In other words, it attracts negative energies.

56:32 So every single action you’re taking every single day is going to contribute to your perception, your future, everything and everything is seen. And you might think, I’ll just do a little bit of this or a little bit of this. Or it won’t matter, and no one will notice. But anytime you’re not putting beautiful energy in you or outside of you, yeah, it comes back. That’s absolutely true.

56:52 That’s I’m certain of that. I am too. My certainty is a gift. It’s a grace, right? You know, you talk about that in the book as well.

56:59 Yeah, grace is when you have when you are gifted a certainty. Richard Rose would call it a happy accident. So we don’t know how we make. These happy, happy accidents work, but we know how to become accident. -prone So we prepare the ground, we do everything we can in order to create happy accidents, graces.

57:17 But at a higher level you’re able to, you’re able to bypass the happy accident and start to create accidents so you can, you can create what Ocean would call. Or it’s Chinese mythology, the floating bridge of heaven. So by acting as a as a like a anishmus between these two forces, you know, like a filament between these two forces. We create this floating bridge and from the floating bridge. We can bring energy down in the form of spirit or in the form of, you know, wisdom.

57:54 And then we can process it through the body. This is what the Holy Grail means, this is what the Holy Grail is. It’s not, it’s not a Corp, it’s a it’s a modality, so we can learn to do that. So you can go like with that book, I said, I want to do, I want to pass something on to people, you know, that’s going to help them. I want them to be free of, you know, they don’t even know that they’re bound to the nature of their resentment.

58:17 They don’t know that they’re feeding back and forward with each other in this drama, and it’s an external energy feeding through them. They don’t know that. I said, How can I explain it to them? So that was what I asked. I put myself into that Isthmus, or I became an isthmus I became the.

58:34 The barrier between these two worlds brought the energy down. But then it’s about the work. So, you know, 110 hours of lecture isn’t going to happen on its own. You know, six months writing a book isn’t gonna happen on its own. And of course, you’re not going to write a book like that and receive truth and not see truth.

58:51 You know, I saw things about myself, so I thought I did not see that. Deceptions of that myself, you know, conceits about myself. Little things I was still doing, I thought I thought I’d clean that, so it was saying, Don’t be, Don’t take it personal, Geoff. I’ve poached you in the chest, on the ruffled with your coat so that you can see this. But not so that you feel the shame, but so that you can convert it because it contains energy.

59:14 Yeah, it blocks energy from coming in and it filters energy that is coming in, so it sends a gift. But when it rose up, it come up as you know, It came up as a huge ball of anxiety and I didn’t know that I didn’t know I was still doing that. Now I’ll still like that, so I go, Okay, go into it, convert it, I convert it by sitting down and writing a book and telling the truth. You open the book by saying that forgiveness is a panacea. It’s a bold statement.

59:44 You also say, I don’t need to hear about your trauma, I don’t wanna. I don’t need to know about your trauma and your trauma is not even that important. No, and I found those two statements very strong. Yeah, why did you start off talking like that because people will go, You don’t understand, Geoff, you don’t understand what you did to me. I said It doesn’t matter what he did to you, and what I’m saying is he’s still doing it to you.

1:00:05 The person that abused me when I was 11, I didn’t see him for 30 years, but he was still abusing me 30 years later because he was still in me. He was still acting as me, in me and as me and through me, and I didn’t even know that it was his parasite, that he left in me, so I said the nature. If it’s a very big trauma, I’m not underestimating the pain, I’m underestimating your trauma. I would never do that or know how painful it is. What I’m saying is It’s in you, and it’s both a curse and a gift.

1:00:34 It’s a curse because it’s for all the reasons we said. It’s blocking energy, it contains energy, and it’s stealing your autonomy, but it’s also a gift. Because if you are able to, if you’re able to go into it, Ushipa talks about absorbing 99 of it before it gives up the spirit. It’s a gift, because it’s not only not only are you going to convert that into light and expand and create a vacancy for more light. But you’re also going to get your autonomy back because it doesn’t matter what you say.

1:01:05 If you’re angry at that person, he has your autonomy, and every decision you make is going to be determined by that. Everywhere I went, every decision I made was determined by the fact that I was so afraid of somebody taking over my autonomy like this guy did on the night when I was abused. And not just that, you know, the year before the grooming, the gaslighting, the subtlety. Even when I was writing Romans, I’d have voices in my head saying I didn’t nothing but nothing much happened. Really, you know, you’re making it more out of this than there really is.

1:01:37 This is bigger than you know. All of these things were coming in and I would go in and I’d look at the truth. I’d look at the true truth. The true truth was this person was abusing me until I forgave him, and when I forgave him, I gave him back to reciprocity. Because I trusted reciprocity, I’ve seen reciprocity in action.

1:01:58 I understood it, I knew it, I was certain about it, so I never condoned what he did and I never pardoned him. That’s not my job. I haven’t got that power, the only power I’ve got. And this is really the nature of the book is that I have the power to repent. Now people get wound up about the word repentance because it sounds so biblical, like a like a jealous God, you know, saying you will repent.

1:02:23 But it just means in Buddhist terms, it means to repair, it means to return, it means to find refuge. The Buddhist, the in Buddhists. They talk about the Buddha, the Dharma, the Sangha, that’s refuge. The Buddha is the teacher, you know, and the Dharma is the teaching, and the Sangha is the community. So when we’re talking now, we have the Buddha, the Dharma, the Sangha together here, now in one place.

1:02:47 So the Buddha is the is, the is, the is the teaching. What’s the word? It’s the teaching or the tinctures, if any, is your wisdom. That’s coming down to teach us together because we’re sat together? The Dharma is what we’re getting from it, and the Sangha is the community that we’re sharing it with.

1:03:10 So refuge is in being in all those places. And if you wanna, if you want to understand that you’re not gonna, you’re not gonna, you know, you’re not gonna get consciousness with your weekly shot from Sainsbury’s, you know, consciousness needs to be earned, so we need to do the work we need to recognize that. I’m not going to be able to figure this out this massive equation, unless I’ve got more energy and to get more energy, I’ve got to convert all the parts of me. I’ve got to call in all that energy that’s lost to the world wide Web that’s lost to the to. The eight hours of lecture.

1:03:45 I take from the telly every night about subjective [expletive] from the amount of energy I waste. Looking at cats doing stupid things on the Internet, you know, I need to. I need to call in all that energy so that I can be like a laser beam. I can fine tune it and I can concentrate on what reality is and reality. You know, nobody really understands it fully.

1:04:05 But my perception at the moment is that I am. I am receiving energy, I’m conserving energy, I’m training energy, I’m imposing energy, I am not leaking energy. Repenting explain repenting How did you repent when you forgave your abuser? Well, this is a good point when I forgave him or walked away and I was quietly proud of myself because, you know, I could have battered him. I had that power, avoided him or avoided him, or nearly did I was, I was very afraid, but when I walked away and over the coming months, as I wrote about this, because writing about it helped me to understand it, I recognized that my forgiveness was a quiet conceit.

1:04:47 And I suddenly because I’d removed him from my windscreen from my windscreen because he was blocking everything, I removed it, I was suddenly able to see all the harm I’d done. I suddenly was able to see the map that people are damaged. You know, the affairs I’d had, the people I battered, you know, people think I’m some kind of Robin Hood character, you know, I was psychotic, you know, I would knock people out, and I’d be so afraid that I’d wait for them to come around and knock them out again. I’d kick their teeth out. I remember reading a review from FHM and said I said, Dave Courtney as the brains.

1:05:26 And some of the gangsters got the brawn. But Geoff Thompson’s You Know Is in A is in a kind of place of his own. And I was. I remember reading it and feeling, Oh you know, you know, they’re saying something good about me. But, she said, he’s in a place of his own when it comes to kicking out front teeth.

1:05:46 I remember this shame coming over me and thinking [expletive] hours, that what people think about me, and then, of course, that’s how I was. So I suddenly saw all that, and I was compelled to write about it and understand it, so I started to clean. All that repentance meant it stuck in me. It’s okay, I’ve become spiritual and I’m talking about God. But that doesn’t mean I’ve still got all that [expletive] in the plumbing.

1:06:09 I’ve got to get rid of that. It’s in me and I’m going to get help to bring it out. But I need to do the work. So I wrote about it, so that was confession. I can write notes from a factory floor and fragile, and that I did a play called Dorman.

1:06:22 These are all confessionary books and plays, and this is what I did. This is who I was. Please don’t make me into some kind of Robin Hood or Saint I. I. You know, I was not a good person.

1:06:34 What I did was not good. So I. I had absolute contrite remorse and I put it out into the world and said, This is, you know, this is what I know about myself, and it took me to my knees. Somebody said, Are you humble? and I said, I am humble and you know why? I’m humble, Brian, Because I know how weak I am.

1:06:54 I’ve been on my knees, I know I can’t do this without invisible support. I’ve absolutely been on my knees. So humility is when you know how weak you are. But Christ is perfected in weakness. This Christ energy, this spiritual energy, this holy dove is perfected in somebody that’s gone.

1:07:14 Yeah, while my ego’s, you know, on the floor, you can’t do nothing. I’ve got no power, I’ve got no autonomy here at all, so repentance meant to look inside. I don’t need to look at what you’re doing wrong. Or what my ex-wife’s done wrong or what. You know what some politician in America has done wrong.

1:07:33 I don’t need to look at the greedy bankers, the corrupt politicians, you know, the violent fundamentalists, they’re all in me, they’ll just go into me. Well, I didn’t have to look far, so I go, Okay? This is exciting now because although it’s quite frightening to look at yourself in a in a true reflection, you go. All of those parts of me that are in me that I’ve been quietly hiding our blocking energy, their filtering energy, and they contain energy. And when I overcome them, when I train this energy and convert it.

1:08:06 Not getting rid of black, not getting rid of darkness, but bringing darkness and light together and converting them into light. There’s a lovely line in the In the Zoe Hardware, it says. Friends meet in a narrow place and there’s a lovely line from Rumi, where he says there is a field beyond good action and bad action. I’ll meet you there, so you imagine good action, bad action, and then you imagine you imagine this narrow place, this isthmus that connects the two. The field of light beyond that is where the truth is.

1:08:43 That’s what Roomy’s talking about. It’s all in cryptic code, but that’s what it means. And the narrow place means this isthmus, this filament or firmament or separation that divides but also connects these two worlds. And when we place ourselves there as an immediate example, I want to write a book about forgiveness to help people because I can’t help them, I can’t explain it. That was me creating an ishmus and bringing down light and then conserving light and changing light.

1:09:14 And put it, Can I just have that block? Yeah, or the box here? Yeah, just. It’s a great quote in the beginning I want to talk about, so that is. That’s the physical manifestation of the philosopher’s stone of it.

1:09:26 It’s. This will probably confound people and inspire people, offend people and lift people in equal degrees. But either way, it’s going to teach them because it’s saying the onus is on, you don’t worry about what the world’s doing wrong. The world is not. It’s insoluble, it’s whack-a-mole, you push it down here, it comes up there.

1:09:47 It’s because we’re trying to fix the world at the level of the screen. You know, fix the world at the level of you and just see what a difference it makes that everyone’s doing that. You look at Twitter and that’s what we’re doing it, so it’s been accelerated, it’s been hyper realized. It’s constantly. Yeah, we wake up looking to be offended and triggered, because that takes all of the onus off.

1:10:07 Awesome places it somewhere else. Yes, basic projection. You only need to know a little bit about psychology to understand that, right? People project what they’re hating, somebody else is what they hate in themselves, and it allows you to avoid any introspection as well. It looks very convenient.

1:10:20 When I got my fifth dam, bro, it created, I had a moment of clarity because I felt very proud. It’s like a master’s grade and I was looking in the mirror and I thought, [expletive], hell, I’m not a master. I was. I was forced down overweight, I was addicted to sexual porn, I was having affairs, I was extremely violent. I just, you know, there was this kindness there. Still, I was still a nice person.

1:10:45 I still had time for people, but I was so deeply insecure and I remember thinking, I need to earn this grade. I need to earn this level of mastery if I can’t even control my own waste management measurement, you know, how can I claim, how can I claim any autonomy at all? If I can’t stop myself from being unkind about people? It means I don’t even understand causality. And Sri Arabindo was one of the one of my gurus.

1:11:12 He’s not alive now, but he’s one of my incorporeal gurus says that you can’t even begin to work. That’s why I loved it. When you said about I get reciprocity, because that is, you can’t work until you get that. You can’t even begin to work until you get that, because you because you don’t understand the rules, you don’t understand the fixed laws. Once we understand the fixed laws we go.

1:11:33 [expletive] up. Is that what it is? I’m going to make sure I don’t think, say or do anything that I don’t want to see again. And how do we do that? We go in and find all the parts of us that one a thing can say and do and kind things.

1:11:46 And we, you could say, we go to war with them, but we convert them. We have to go in and we have to either kick them out. Or we have to bring them up into the furnace of volition to our work and convert them right, right? So people should be conscious of every thought, every action, everything inside of them, because that will manifest their reality. It does, yeah, and there’s a great quote in the beginning of the book, and you just made reference to it.

1:12:12 Now that all the problems of the world are also inside of us, yeah, and that we, it’s a way of saying we are all one, yeah, in many ways, there was a I remember there was a terrorist attack on the London Bridge many years ago. And I pulled out my phone and decided I’d make a vlog about it, and I felt a lot of pain. I loved the city and I hate seeing that, and I said, I said, We’re all responsible for this, yeah, we’re all responsible for this person. That decided they had no other option but to start stabbing people. And, needless to say, I got tons of hate on this message and you can’t go home and you don’t know what you’re talking about.

1:12:42 But I had this feeling that somehow I had failed. We all had failed, yeah, and yet we all wanted to point the fingers. Yeah, they had failed, but somehow all of us had it. Yeah, that’s just that. That is an example of a cancer that’s come from profliga live in.

1:13:01 So if we drop a pebble into the anywhere in the pool, the ripples will meet everywhere in the pool. So Karma is a It’s a Fatburg, everybody contributes. Some people think they’re just committing little venal sins that don’t matter, so you know, they don’t really count. But venal sins can add up into mortal sins that can grow. If I’m contributing at all, if I’m, if I’m responsible for a part of it, I’m responsible for all of it.

1:13:27 So everything affects everything all the time, so people don’t want to, you know, they don’t, they don’t want to, they don’t want to know. This is what the Greek philosopher Escaler said. You know, knowledge is painful because we certainly go, Oh, that’s what I was doing. Oh, that’s what I was, that’s, you know, I contributed to that. So if you look at sexual porn, for instance, people think it’s okay, I can do that.

1:13:51 But as well as letting vampires across the threshold and they take over your autonomy, they take over your cultural body. You’re also contributing to the abuse of these kids that are stuck on porn films, because that is a demonic world. You know, I’ve known a few people who’ve been in that world and they’ve come out. Some of them have got out of it, and when they’ve done reports on it and wrote about it, it is awful. It’s.

1:14:15 And so, you know, we don’t see it as somebody’s son, somebody’s daughter. But we are contributing to the abuse when, when, when. We masturbate over that abuse, when we when we observe the abuse and we let it come in and we let it pleasure us. And then we spill our semen on the floor. We give away that thermal energy, we are actually contributing to that.

1:14:36 You know, there’s a reason why they’re giving most of it away free because they’re not giving it away free. It costs you your autonomy. This is what the mythology of the vampire is, you know, it cannot come across the threshold unless you let it come across the threshold. But once it’s across the threshold, you try and get it out again. And that’s that is a background vampire that’s feeding off you all the time.

1:14:59 I remember when I was addicted to porn and I remember I was used to teach this to my students. And I say to them, You can’t even look at my wife or your friend’s wife without imagining what you might do to them and imagining all those. And they were all very embarrassed by. I said, Look, if you don’t out it and see it, you know you’re not going to be able to clear it. I said, But you, you think this is just an innocent exchange of energy, and then it’s an intercourse of energy.

1:15:22 You are letting dark forces across the threshold. They are living semi-autonomous beings and they are feeding from you and they’re feeding as you and they are so entangled. You don’t know the difference between them and you. I said, So you contribute to that. That’s a hard thing to understand next time.

1:15:40 If somebody’s out there now. Next time they look at sexual pornography, they’re gonna have to ask themselves, Am I happy to contribute to the abuse of these children? Somebody’s children, am I happy to do that? And if and if I’m if I can’t stop myself from even, you know, then maybe. Maybe it’ll take a little bit time for them to understand it, maybe they will reject that.

1:16:00 And if I’m saying, like exactly what you see if I’m saying? There are atrocities in the other in other parts of the world? And we’re responsible, we are responsible because if we’ve got a leak anyway, we’ve got a leak everywhere. If I have a small and kindness that’s going to add to the fat book, it doesn’t matter that it’s a small addition or a large edition. It all adds up, doesn’t it?

1:16:20 It’s compound, you know, from the city. Brian Compound interest is king, so don’t contribute at all, and if you want to shrink the Fatburg, contribute kindness. But see whether you can do that, see whether you’ve got the power to do that, see whether you’ve got the energy, to do that, see whether you’ve got the energy. To not be unkind about somebody today, to not say an unkind thing about somebody today. See whether you’ve got that power, see whether you’ve got the power to be able to discern, thinking and recognize thinking as a separate, a separate density that we think our thinking is our thinking, Well, it’s our thinking if we engage it and identify with it.

1:17:05 But actually thinking is a separate entity. There’s there are other beings semi-autonomous thought forms out in the world, wandering around, looking to engage. Some of them might be innocent. Some of them might be a good engagement of thought, but a lot of them just want to rate your energy. So we have to.

1:17:21 We have to be able to discern and say that is a separate energy. And I have the power if I can train myself if I can get my energy back to choose not to engage in those thoughts, right? So it’s in your head and you’re like, That’s not me. yeah, that’s just something coming through, and I can choose just not engage, move on. Well, that’s the power that’s in that.

1:17:40 And that if you wanted to sum up Buddhism, that is the core of Buddhism. We call it dependent horizon. If I don’t engage, it has no reality. It might have a little bit of energy it might kick off. It might bang at the door a few times.

1:17:52 But if I don’t engage it and I don’t identify with it and I don’t let it in, it has no reality, and these energy forms know that. But because we don’t know it. And they just wander in and out of us like a sleazy nightclub, because there’s no door staff there. So once we get it, they become afraid to approach the door the mind door. Because once you’re once you’re able to observe them, they will become dissolved or converted by.

1:18:22 They call it the Moses look just by your observation, just by the power of your the focus of your observation. They call it choiceless awareness, so we see it, but we just don’t engage it. We give it no energy, so it recognizes that every attempt to get into your mind. Or they’re expending energy in the hope that once they’re in, they can replenish that energy. If we don’t let them, if we don’t engage them, if we don’t identify with them and we practice choiceless awareness or dependent arising.

1:18:50 We don’t, we don’t allow it, we don’t allow ourselves to engage it. It has no reality, not only no power, but no reality. But this is what the work is about, because even just understanding this is tiring and it takes energy. And the reason I have contracted and got rid of all the things that are vampire in my energy is because it’s not because I’m being Holier than now, it’s because I’m. I need the energy to go outside of kind of fossil perception, normal perception, the perception that the world is real.

1:19:22 Yeah, because the entropy will just bring you into this negative thoughts. You have to be consciously aware. It’s like a fight. Every day you wake up, yeah, and you have to be on guard and be proactive. Yeah, to put all these thoughts in your head to guide all of these temptations and stay online.

1:19:37 And the only way to do that is to have your energy conserved and be congruents. Yeah, no lease, anything that’s stored in you, anything you’re giving home to any squatters they need to. This is what Young called Carl Jung called individuation. We bring them up, we process them. We bring them into a conscious knowing so that, in other words, they’re converted into consciousness and light.

1:19:59 And as they’re converted into light, we become more aware and we literally go, Oh, this isn’t, you know, this is what this is what the world says. I can do, but now I’m consciously aware I can realize I can do this as well. And there’s an infinite potential for consciousness. It’s not like it’s not like there’s a limitation with it. We can become fully conscious, fully enlightened, so enlightenment happens in degrees, but it becomes this all comes back to the energy.

1:20:25 And when? If you want to go into the minutiae, we’re bringing in spirits, living spirit. We are giving birth to it through this Christ body and we’re imposing it into the world as a living spirit. So it goes out and works like an apostle. So in my film say, say, Romans, it’s full of truth, it’s a difficult film, but it’s full of truth.

1:20:45 I don’t have to worry too much about that. I’ve done loads of promotion. I did everything we could do. I did, as Francis Saint Francis would say, I did the possible I did, the I did than necessary, and it did the possible. All of it and I let the impossible happen on its own.

1:21:02 And then suddenly you’ve got a film that’s going out there and they’ll be touching lives. As an intercessionary film intercessionary, Brian means that it’s got the holy spirit in it, it’s got the philosopher’s stone, it’s got truth in you. So as an intercessionary film, I’ll be going out there and working, you know, 24 hours a day. I don’t even need to know about it. Can I give you one example?

1:21:25 This is a perfect example of an intercessionary film. One of the kids in the film is called Rory Nolan. I hope you won’t mind me sharing this. I’ve shared it before and he was in Europe, I can’t remember it was. It was in Europe for a funeral and this is when the film was released and he played a part in the film, and he’s walking down the high street in this city.

1:21:47 It was his girl where his girlfriend’s family lived and noticed that it was on at the cinema and it was starting that night. So he went in and said, Oh, I’m in this film, I just so weird. I’m walking down the street in a foreign country. And they said, Oh, will you come tonight? and you know and introduce it? He goes, Yeah, I’d love to anyway.

1:22:04 He brought his girlfriend family, so they’ll start watching the film. And, you know, as you know, there’s a party in it about a priest that abuses a kid. And all this kind of thing. Anyway said they watched the film, and you know, they’re going, Oh, we’ll have dinner together afterwards, and they’re all talking. And because it’s a very emotive film, a photographic and the mother says she’s at the head of the table.

1:22:27 The mother, the mother kind of it’s the mother of his girlfriend, says film. But, you know, I just don’t believe it, you know, it’s a very Catholic country, so I don’t believe I don’t believe priests do that. I don’t believe it’s widespread. I just don’t believe that happened. I just think it’s, you know, I think it’s an assault on the church and there’s her son further down the table, said Mom.

1:22:53 And she said, Yeah, and he says, Do you remember? When I was suffering with depression? he said, Yeah, she said, and you sent me to a priest for cancer, he said. Yeah, he said he sexually abused me and his girlfriend went. She’s never heard it before, He’d never revealed it to anybody ever before. That’s the power of spirit. So that’s the beginning of his healing, and it’s the beginning of his mom waking up.

1:23:17 Because his mum is so afraid that it’s true. She’s so afraid that it’s true that it can’t be true, and if it is true, it must be your fault. Maybe you led him on. There’s a lovely line in my film Fragile, where the mother says to the It’s a fictional, fictionalized version of my own story. But the mother says to the son, Did you lead him on? and he goes, What do you mean?

1:23:39 Lead him on? But? and he’s dissonant. I was 11, I was 11., I was up [expletive] 11.. What do you mean lead him on? I don’t understand.

1:23:47 I’d hardly kissed a girl, what do? And so often it’s not the abuse that damages people. It’s the fact that the family don’t know how to cope with it, and that’s not their fault either. They just, it’s like you. If you tell them it’s like you’re dropping a bomb in that in the kitchen.

1:24:02 They don’t know how to deal with it. You know, if there’s so much fear around this kind of subject, but this? That’s the nature of this kind of film that has an advocate in it like a spirit in it. It goes out and it works. I don’t need to know where it works.

1:24:20 I don’t need to worry about whether it wins awards or doesn’t win awards, whether it sells a million or whether it only sells one. I just need to do the necessary and the possible all of it in order to promote it. And then let. And then I’ll let it do its own thing. But an intercessionary film, an intercessionary talk, and this is an intercessionary talk.

1:24:41 We both know that because we can feel it because we can feel it can’t be in the room. This will touch somebody. Maybe somebody’s going to wake up at four in the morning in a cold sweat with a depression. And there’s going to be a voice that saying to someone can’t go on and this will enter them as a spirit and go. There’s hope because within that voice within that depression, there is massive energy, this there is energy that is being that there is.

1:25:05 There is a dark energy that contains light that’s definite, it blocks light, that’s definite. Any kind of blockage stops goodness coming in. And it also filters like, because when our normal light comes in, it’s filtered through the horror film of this dark perception. All of that can be changed by going, Oh, so this depression? I’m lying, I’m waking up four in the morning, next to my wife, Brian, and I’m like, 22, and I’m cold with sweat.

1:25:36 And I’m thinking, It’s going to be a long day. Have you ever heard that? John Cooper Park, John Cooper Clark poem Chicken Tan? The [expletive] Police are [expletive] keen to keep the [expletive] City? If you get a chance to watch it, get a chance to watch Chris Eccleston doing a chicken town in one of Jim Cartwright’s films.

1:25:55 There’s just a line in it where it, where it’s about. It’s a bad guy that’s coming back from work from war, and he’s just seen damage everywhere. And there’s one line in it where he says the [expletive] days are [expletive] long. And, you know, you know, that’s come from the voice of somebody that’s depressed because you wake up at four. Your wife can’t help you.

1:26:17 She’s frightened of you, she’s frightened of you because she doesn’t have to deal with you because you’re following around the house like a like a lost puppy. And your kids are in the other room and you can’t. You feel like you can’t protect you and they can’t help you, even with all their love. It can’t get through and you’re dead and go to the doctor because last time you went to the doctor, we give you a bottle of tablets. And they felt like they put 20 blankets over it and you felt like a The Walking Dead.

1:26:41 And you just think there’s no hope anywhere. I want this to land with somebody like that. My mum told me a story once where she’s deeply depressed. She suffered depression all her life and they’re in a car boot sale. And my mom says, my dad come up to her and said, Oh, there’s a book over there by a woman called Doctor Weeks.

1:27:03 It’s about depression of my. Maybe it will help you. I think it cost a tuppence or something. And she said she said, All right, nothing’s going to get through this. So she went over and picked it up and she opened it and it was like a letter to her.

1:27:15 I want every talk, I do, every book I do, every article I write, everything I post to be. An intercessionary spirit like that changed my mom’s life. It enabled my mom to manage the energies that were in her and find a way through this darkness. So the hope that one day, one of my books or one of the talks will be found in a car boot sale? Or, you know, in a second-hand shop or someone’s scrolling through the Internet.

1:27:41 And they find this tincture of light, and it just acts as a as a gateway, a Dharma gate to this unfathomable place. It gives them curiosity, gives them a bit of hope. Because it’s someone like me saying, No matter where you’ve been, no matter what’s going on, there’s energy in that. You know, I’ve spoke to kids in prison and said, Oh, yeah, I’m like you, I said, Look, you know, I’m like you. I’m covered in war paint, my legs are covered in war paint.

1:28:11 I said, I’ve got a massive back, you know, I’ve got all this protection, I’ve got all these skills, but I said I’ve converted all that to light. I’m only interested in light, I’m only interested in consciousness. I’m only interested in being in a room with people and then leaving, feeling, letting them feel like they’ve expanded. And if you get the presents right, you can be in the room with people and they don’t even know you. And it will change them.

1:28:35 Because that spirit works, too. Yeah, I’ve had it right and where it’s, I can see it come in, I can see it today. Actually, can you see the tremble? I can see it coming out of my fingers. I’ve had miraculous healings with this when I first got it, but it’s not me.

1:28:52 It’s not Geoff Thompson, but it’s an energy coming through me and I’m just trying to make myself more hermetically sealed and cleaner. So that it, you know, so it’s not clean water coming through a shitty pipe, you know, right, sort of flu is better, it flows better. You have some budos at the end of every chapter, like practical things people can do. Yeah, you just said earlier, but have you done the work, have you done the work, have you done the work? A bunch of amazing ideas here.

1:29:18 People are grabbing onto them out there, I can feel it. How do they turn that into practice, which turns that into change? Well, you can start immediately by recognizing, you know, it’s like it’s like Ulysses when you come, you know, Ulysses goes to the Trojan Wars. It comes back to his palace in Ithacas and realizes that he’s not recognized in his own in his own kingdom. It’s that’s a parable about waking up, so we wake up and we go, I’m awake, This is my kingdom, This is my body I can create from this body, I can I?

1:29:47 I have the power of coordination I can create in the world and you think, Well, I haven’t got control of this body. All the territories have been taken over by vagabonds and by old perceptions and old beliefs. So you can start by winning back your bodies if you think you’ve got a growth body. Like a physical body, a breath body without a mind and an intellect body. We’ve got a causal body, which is the will force.

1:30:10 We can win. All of those bodies back so we could start by just taking our clothes off and looking in the mirror and going, Okay. I want more energy and I want to win autonomy, I want to be able to have an effect in the world. We can’t help people if we’re not helping themselves, so let’s get my body right, let’s get my food body right. People think that palette isn’t important.

1:30:28 Gandhi brought the British Empire to its knees just to control the palate. There was a lovely scene in the Gandu film, where he’s where Gandhi sat in front of the Hoi Polloi of the British Empire. And one of the generals says to him, So, so you think we’re just going to walk out of India then? And he goes, Yes, he says, you need to remember. I said, your masters in somebody else’s house.

1:30:51 So yes, you will walk out of India and it will be your idea, you will walk out. And there’s certainty in it. Just it’s so true, so we go, Okay, I haven’t got control of this body so I can win. I’ve said something to you before we started that in the esoteric text, they say that the devil lives in the food body. If there are demons and Devils divides negative forces, they live in the food they can’t penetrate through, they can’t actually take.

1:31:21 You know, they can’t actually exist in the causal body, in ethereal bodies because it’s caustic for them. So what they do is they take over the food body, with alcohol, with drugs, without with overeating with gross fossil fuel. And it just permeates and poisons all the other bodies. So obviously when we overeat, we’ve got lethargy, you know, we’re lazy, you know, we, we’re quicker devices. I have a career and have a few beers, so I’ll go and watch a little bit of porn.

1:31:48 I’ll slag somebody off, I’ll throw, throw my slipper at the telly. So a lot of the negative entities that are in the world live in our physical body, in our gross food body. So when we start to reduce the fit, that the physical body and reduce what we eat and how much we eat, and the nature of what we eat and what we put into our body. And when I say, Eat, I mean anything. We ingest, you know, through what we watch on the television.

1:32:17 That’s food, you know what we read about, that’s food, you know what we talk about behind the table like, you know, that’s food, so we start to. We start to make our diet absolutely clean and get mastery over the food body. The moment you get mastery over the food body, the causal body, the will force has to work hard to get that. Because I can count on one hand, I the amount of people I know who got control of their palette because it’s very difficult. It’s an advanced thing.

1:32:45 But in order to get control of the food bother, you also have to exercise the breath body. Because you have to start training and do some physical stuff. You also start having to exercise the mind and the intellect body. Because to understand palate you need to study, you know you need to, you need to expand the mind. So when we start to exercise the food body, we’re exercising all five bodies at the same time.

1:33:07 And the idea is that we unify these bodies, we unify them, so they call it the unity of being so that they’re all aligned. They’re all congruent, they’re all speaking, the same language, and they’re all coming from the same hymn sheet. So this is about expanding the intellect, expanding the mind, contracting the physical body, you know the gross body and just taking away all of its diet. So don’t watch violent films, don’t you know, don’t, don’t take anything in excess like food, so, but obviously, you know, it’s going to be transformative. When I give up alcohol, I lost 95 of my social circle, because who do you think he is?

1:33:50 I said to one of my friends, a really close friend who said I’ve given up alcohol as a cerebral exercise as a Buddha exercise. And he goes off [expletive] now, he said, If I can’t have a drink of Arkansas swing from the nearest oak. And this was a man that was trying to tell me he wasn’t addicted to alcohol. I might as well swing from the nearest oak. I said I wasn’t asking you to give it up, I said I was just, it was just, I was just talking.

1:34:12 It triggers people, huh? But that. But then I give it up as an exercise, and I go into the pub with my friend, who would go out once a month for something to eat. And I realized in two drinks, I’m drinking soft drink or coffee, and he’s drinking alcohol. I’m talking to a complete stranger, and I don’t like him very much, and he doesn’t like me either.

1:34:37 Because we’re not, we’re not in that place anymore. So the reason people don’t do these things is because it’s painful because the person that is expanded consciousness. You know, the girl that lies next to him in bed, or the boy that lies next to him in bed might not like that new person. You know you’re going to be at work and you’re not going to sit around and swap factory porn with people, because that’s just not where you are, so you’re automatically going to be separate from other people, so it means it means a massive degree of separation. And because you’re going to another level of perception beyond the masses, you’re going to another stratosphere.

1:35:16 So people will say that you’re weird, thank you very much. It’s very kind. I’m doing my best, and I think that you’re Holier than that. I had a lovely thing happen to me, Brian, like, if you don’t mind me diverting a little bit where I was taken out of my body. I work in the middle of the night and felt very strange and I was wide awake.

1:35:39 My I was alert awake, you know, because my body, I thought something was going wrong with my body. And suddenly I felt this. And I felt these four lights open up in me and I came out my body, I was at my body and I was wide awake, and I’ve just remember being curious. Not that I was imprisoned in the body, but that these lights or these chakras were keeping me safe in the body anyway. I floated up, went through this cloud, and suddenly I was in front of I was in this.

1:36:09 I was invisible, I could tell that they couldn’t see me, but I was. I was in the square and it was probably in the 30s and there was an Indian guy teaching on stage and he was teaching the paradoxical commandments. And they were saying, You’re going to serve people, but they will hate you for it. You’re gonna love people but love them anyway and serve them anyway, he said. People are going to accuse you of agenda, you’re going to accuse me of agenda.

1:36:37 Do the work anyway? And it’s something that Mother Teresa had on their desk that the paradoxical commandments is kind of saying. You’ll do the best you can and you’ll do it from the right place, but people will attack you. But love them anyway, and by not engaging what they do, you receive their negativity and you convert it into light. It gets brought into this what they call the Magic Bowl in Chinese mythology into the Dantdm.

1:37:03 It goes in and it’s converted into light. It’s kind of a gift, really, but it’s not an easy energy to manage, as you know, so it’s. It’s kind of saying that when you start to do these things, people will misunderstand you and you have to take that into consideration. It’s not personal, some people will attack you. It’s not personal, even though it feels personal.

1:37:25 One of my close friends said to me the other day, I’ve got to tell you, Geoff, I’m not happy about. When you first went very spiritual and started doing stuff, he said, I wasn’t happy to wear your some of your senior students. We’re disloyalty are some of them started to take campaigns on the Internet about me and stuff. And I said I started. I’d love to join you on that, and I said I’d love to, I’d love to masturbate on that.

1:37:49 I’d love to indulge in that, I said, but I’ve got no right to expect them to be loyal to me. I said I wasn’t even loyal to my first wife, I wasn’t loyal to my own soul, I wasn’t loyal, I wasn’t a loyal person. I said, I can’t expect them to be loyal to me. I said, I love that, I said, I love that your students are loyal to you. I love that.

1:38:07 I look at Rick Young, he’s a close old friend of mine. I haven’t seen him for a while, but I love that Rick. Young students are so loyal to him and I love the way people are around. DANNY NaSanto They just, you know, the especially Rick Young. He protects him like a guardian.

1:38:22 It’s so admirable, but I can’t expect that from my students because I was not a loyal person myself. You know, and that is a difficult thing to receive to go. Yeah, you know, what they’re doing is not nice, and it’s not kind, but I’ve done a lot worse. And when I wrote this book, when I wrote this book and I started to write about how I forgave them. I recognize I wasn’t pardoning them and then wasn’t condemning them.

1:38:47 Because when I wrote it down and I wrote down what they did in this book, and this is why I said, Now, Write down what you did, Geoff. My spirit should now write down what you did, which was a lot worse and it’s very difficult to go. Yeah, well, I had an affair, I’m a wife and I had a blow job in the back of a greasy car. And I lied and I lied and I lied. And, you know, I wasn’t congruent in any way I wasn’t, you know, the kindness was a surface thing.

1:39:16 There was an agenda with everything I did. I wasn’t a good person, I’m a good person now, I’m congruent now, but I’m only congruent because I know how weak I am. My congruence is that, as the Exigler says, don’t look at me too closely because I’m still working on this. That’s congruence for me. I’m still working, I’m still tripping up, but I recognize when you’re doing this, that’s the nature of here.

1:39:39 FRANCIS COLUMBIA You know, Millarepa, even at the level of tainted, was still tripping up, but they just caught themselves quicker. They’re still, they align themselves quicker. So it’s people will misunderstand you and people will attack you, but take that into consideration. Don’t take it personal, don’t engage it, don’t identify with it, don’t even have a judgment on it. You know, I’m not in any position to judge anybody.

1:40:03 I remember doing a radio show once with Terry Christian, who was very kind to me. He was like you, he really looked after me and he started. I won’t say the gangster’s name, but he started talking about this gangster how dangerous he was and how horrible he was and but an unkind person he was. And he said, What’s your thoughts, Chef? And I said, Have you read my book, Terry?

1:40:25 I said, I’m not in a position to judge him or anybody else. I said, You know how many people are battered? You know how unkind I’ve been. I said, I’m not in a position to judge him, I’m just not. And then it was like this, I miss a radio show just dead, and he went anyway.

1:40:43 A record because I’m not in a position I don’t care about other people I just care about, I care about other people in that I. I need to get myself aligned and keep myself aligned and work from a place of kindness. It’s not for me to judge anybody out that’s not my position. My. My job is to bring in light to conserve light, to train light, to impose light, not to leak light in any way in any space.

1:41:08 So when people see I’ve contracted and when they see, I’m not doing the normal things, I’m not sitting at the cafes like I used to. And I’m not, you know, I’m not sitting in the pub and I’m not having that kind of conversation. It’s just, you know, I just wanna. I just want to follow the dictate and the commandment of my own spirit and put out love, love, love into the world and to the best I can do. And that is a continuing process and we all need to be embracing that and trying to do that every single day.

1:41:41 Yeah, and it’s, you know, it’s just about, you know, they say it’s about knowing yourself. But not many people really want to know themselves, you know, because to know themselves means to make changes, and if you change anything, you change everything. You know, I can’t change myself without it affecting my wife without affecting my children, you know, without affecting everybody. I remember I remember we did a screening of Romans. It was retaliation, it’s called now at Edinburgh and there was a journalist in the audience and she was talking.

1:42:12 You know, of all the things in the film, Brian, you could be offended by because there’s plenty, there’s plenty of things to be offended by. She was offended by the scene at the end, where a little girl watches, the abusive priest set himself on fire. I thought, Forgive their spoilers, sets himself on fire. You know, he’s being forgiven, but he can’t cope with it and he sets himself in front. She doesn’t know it’s a wrong call, she just sees this ball of fire and the journalist says to me what she’d be nearly crying.

1:42:40 Why would you do that to us? And I said, Do what she said, Why would you show that? I said, We’re just showing reciprocity. We’re saying that this guy’s died. But he’s left the karma of his sin with his niece, with his duck with his, you know, with his family.

1:42:56 His family have got to pick up that [expletive] now, they’ve got a room with someone else, has got to clean it. What he was really saying was, Why would you remind me that I’m not kind to my daughter? Why would you remind me that I’m not really with my daughter? I’m always on the phone. I don’t even go on holiday with her, I say I’m on holiday with her but was on the laptop.

1:43:14 I’m paraphrasing, but you know, why would you remind me that all the things I make mistakes with, I’m not just affecting my daughter, they’re affecting everybody, I’m responsible for everything. This is one of the things. But Teresa Vavilia got when she had this amazing a massive epiphany with the Christ Energy. He said to me, It’s all your fault and she was quite pious, but it’s all your fault, and she understood it. Everything you do, every venal sin, every little thing you think isn’t making a difference, adds to the Fatburg.

1:43:43 It’s part of it, and the only way to change that is to change you. That’s what Gandhi said be the change you want to see, but that is. It’s kind of throw away. But it’s also very powerful because, like I say, change your palette. Well, where does the devil if he lives in the food?

1:43:59 So don’t keep eating so much [expletive] just don’t keep eating too much here, you know, and it’s like, Get the breath right. Most people are shallow breathers, they don’t bring any trauma, any oxygen to all the limbs because they don’t breathe properly because they’re in a constant state of anxiety. Because everything on the television and through the newspapers is directed to keep you in a constant state of anxiety, you know, and in mostly, if I, if I was to isolate it, mostly in a state of confusion. They give you problems that can’t be solved, but there is one problem that can be solved. And that’s our own repentance, our own return to good.

1:44:40 In order to return to good, we have to stop we in order to return to our center towards love or towards the singularity. We have to stop walking away from it. Every time we are unkind, every time we overeat over drink, every time we are profligate, we’re walking away from homeostasis spiritual homeostasis. So in order to walk towards it, we have to. Not only contract all those negative habits, we also have to clean up all of the residue of the things we’ve done wrong in the past.

1:45:11 People don’t want to believe in causality because to believe in causality is frightening because it means I’ve got all that [expletive]. I did and I didn’t even know I was doing it. And that’s got to be cleaned out. And it can go on for generations too, and it tends to, but we can clean in this lifetime. Yeah, so it’s just well that this book is kind of saying there’s life after abuse.

1:45:29 This gave me a gift, it said. Just clean yourself up. This is what the sound budget and clean your own act up. You need the energy. Once you’ve got the energy, you can concentrate the energy and find out what reality is.

1:45:42 And it’s not what you think it is. Can’t trust your hands, can you? No, what’s next for you? Geoff? You’re always working on something, yeah, about I’m doing a film at the moment.

1:45:53 Interestingly called Angel on Oxford Street, I had a I had a meeting with the throne with Christ on Oxford Street. It’s a longer story. But I, I kind of I was going, I was going to a meeting in London. I didn’t want to go for all the wrong reasons. I didn’t want to turn up and I was just.

1:46:11 I was having one of those days where this inner voice because convincing me, it was the wrong thing to do. And as I was writing an email to these people saying, I can’t come to this screening for all the wrong reasons. Boom. I heard a crash against my window and I went out and a bird. It hit the window and it was dead on the floor.

1:46:28 And I went straight back to my email and I said, I’m coming. I said, Please forgive me. I said I was having a moment I’m coming, so I get to Oxford Street. It’s the longest journey in the world to get there. It’s like I’m walking through, it’s like I’m walking underwater.

1:46:41 Everything is trying to stop me from getting there. I feel this oppressive force is trying to stop me from getting there and I don’t want to go to the meeting. I don’t want to go to this screen and I don’t want to be around the people that are there. But I go and I’ve got, I’ve got the voices in the head that there’s evil in the air, there’s evil sitting outside every open doorway. And, you know, it was a time of Corona.

1:47:03 You know, it’s going to snatch the breath from your throat, and I’ve got all this stuff about immigrants. They’re gonna slice you, you know. Slice your, slice your side, open through your through your hoodie and steal your organs and sell them on the dark web. And all of this negativity that’s in, you know, coming from the fourth estate. And it’s rushing around my head trying to stop me from going to London.

1:47:22 And as I’m walking down London down Oxford Street, I see him in a shop doorway in one of the richest shopping malls in the world. A man with no shoes on, no socks on, and he’s, you know, the pet. The dirt is like the pestilence of years of being on the street and the matted beard. That could you know that could, you know, start a contamination and eyes that look like marbles staring at a stone? And I know I can’t walk past him, but I haven’t got time, I’ve got a bit of the meeting, the screen in 15 minutes and I haven’t got the dollar.

1:47:55 I’m in a place of leniency, I’ve cut everything out, I’ve not been working, I’ve got, I’ve, I haven’t got the money. I haven’t got the time to stop and feed him and clothe him. And I’m contemplating this as I’m walking in the opposite direction and go in. And I’m going into a big shopping store. And I’m like the trickster [expletive] first, pushing the burden of my worries up the escalator to the top floor menswear department.

1:48:17 And they buy a whole outfit for this guy, a whole outfit. But the queue is a million miles long, and there’s no, there is no kills open. This is what’s happening to me and I’m going. I’m late for the meeting and they’re going to be crossed and they’re going to be upset. And I’m thinking, Someone’s dying on Oxford Streets.

1:48:38 And people are walking over him to get to the sales. And he’s in the middle of 20 food outlets, 30 food outlets, 50 food outlets. And I’m, and I’m wrestling with myself, and I’m thinking, It’s I can’t feed every mouth in London. Then this voice is saying any man’s death diminishes you. And then I just had this moment ago.

1:48:58 [expletive] the meeting, [expletive], the meeting and boom. The queue disappears, loads of tills open. And suddenly I’m like, I’ve got like winged shoes, and I’m going down Oxford Street towards this guy. And when I arrive at me, he just looks at me, not like he’s grateful, it’s like he’s expecting me. Listen to this.

1:49:21 I gave him the clothes and I gave him some money for food. It’s nothing. I’m not being a great bloke. This is just what I was absolutely compelled to do. And I said to him, What’s your name? and he said, Evil.

1:49:35 I said evil, and he nodded, and this voice said, How are we going to overcome evil? I’m going to address it, I’m going to clothe it, I’m going to feed it in the good. And I went back and I wrote a film about it. It’s a four minute animation we’re casting out at the moment. And on the back of that, I’ve written 440 000 words on How to Overcome Evil with Good, And it all comes back to the same thing.

1:50:03 We combine negative and positive forces. We create a field of light, and in that field of light we meet, and in that field of light, there is truth. There’s no good and bad, there’s no dark and light, there’s no, you know, there’s no evil, and, you know, virtue. There is just two energies create join together by a tempered soul that creates light. So what I the film is me putting that light into the world.

1:50:30 And then the 400,000 words which has been extremely testing. Because I was arrogant because I thought, I can write a book in about six weeks. First draft. And it’s hard because I know it’s going to pull stuff through me and it’s always a challenge and it’s a discipline. And I have to really exercise my cause all well and I’m always frightened because I, I don’t know what.

1:50:49 The [expletive] it’s going to bring up because normally it brings up stuff and I thought, I need to look at that now. I forgot about that, I forgot I did that and all the way through it. I was couldn’t find my way with this book, and it just kept saying to me, This is, it’s not a book, this is, this is energy, this is spirit, this is God being Christ did. This is new energy for you, it’s just gonna coat you. And what you’re going to do with this energy is you’re just going to keep putting it out to the world.

1:51:15 You’re going to go and talk to people like Brian, and you’re just going to have that conversation and just say this, it’s about. The acquisition of Light is about the conservation of light, so at the training of light, it’s about the imposition of life. It’s about hermetically shielding yourself so that you don’t leak the light, it’s about filling yourself like I told you about. The light bulb is filled with inert gas. That’s the simile for spirit.

1:51:41 When we do Pranayama. When we fill our body, we’d like it protects the wheel force, it protects the causal body. This spirit that we bring into our body on a daily basis protects us, it surrounds us. It stops the filament, the wheel force from blowing out because, as you know, this is a rich energy. And if it comes into you too fast, you know if you, if you hack it and you try and get it in too quick, it would just be like putting a thousand watts to 100 watt ball just blow.

1:52:08 So, yeah, so from this meeting with Christ, it was Christ in one of his many disguises evil. That’s all, he said one word, and he said one word, and it was a concept nucleus that so far, I don’t know if he’s ever going to end, but it’s so far, you know, nearly five, four and a half thousand words, neither nearly half a million words from one concept nucleus. But it’s repeating the same thing again. It’s saying Bring energy in, it’s saying conserve energy and train energy and impose energy into the world. You don’t need to worry about how and where we’ll teach you.

1:52:43 Your soul will teach her. And it came back to the one thing and this is the secret to the Tree of Life, the cabalic tree of life. It’s a simple secret to say it’s a hard secret to do in the Cabala in the Zohar. It says the master sets the table for the student before he eats himself. And it’s basically the sea to the key to abundance.

1:53:05 If you want to find if you want abundance, find somebody else that needs abundance if you want. If you want knowledge and consciousness, find somebody else that wants consciousness that needs it, bring it in for them and give it to them. Of course it’s going to coat you, it’s going to be processed through, you’re going to be rich with it, but you’ve got to bring it in and pass it on. So it’s the secret to reciprocity, which is selflessness again. Very easy to say, difficult to do because you might have 10 personalities in here that don’t want to do that.

1:53:37 I have loads of people in within us, you know, characters and perceptions that don’t believe that, so we have to. It’s no good believing me either. You shouldn’t believe a word, I say, You know you should. You just need to take the spirit of it and be the proof of it yourself. So this is available, this is available equitably to everybody.

1:53:59 There is no wealth divide here. It’s not more available to, you know, rich people and less available to poor people. That’s equitably available to everybody because it’s in us, the singularity is in us and we can all access it through the self. But it’s that’s the work, and it’s not easy, as you know, because it’s what Christ says. When someone says, Can I sit at the right hand side of the Only goes, Are you ready for that?

1:54:26 Do you think you can drink from this bitter cup? And he goes, Oh yeah, yeah, I can. He said the fact that he said he knew he could, he knew he couldn’t. Because it is a bit of cup because it means processing all that stuff that we don’t want to look at again. It means going on, Well, okay, I’ve got 50 elements in me that aren’t kind, and they all contain energy, and I’ve got to win it back.

1:54:44 That’s the greater jihad that’s the that’s the real war. So winning the winning the territories back, finding unity with the body and then connecting to this higher force and remembering when this energy comes in, it’s got to keep moving. Yeah, if we hold on to it for too long, we’ll just explode. Yeah, such powerful stuff, Geoff. I just realized we’ve got a book on the top of my stack of books that has been sitting there for seven years.

1:55:12 And it says, Watch my back, yeah, and that’s been sitting there. That’s the concept nucleus prime there it is. Everything I’ve done comes from that book I write a book 30 years ago. It’s still selling called Watch My Back. And it was about my experiences of overcoming depression, overcoming fear and becoming a bouncer and obviously for a long time became very violent and not a good person.

1:55:33 But that was the most metaphysical experience of my life. Everything we’re talking about now, every other book I’ve written 50 all the films, excuse me. They all came from that one concept nuclear so used to say to my wife, because it’s been made into a play, a short film, a feature film. The one I did with Orlando come from that. I said to my wife, I know it’s not sold enough, I think I need to do more with it, she said.

1:55:58 That book’s doing everything it needs to do. Don’t worry about that, everything. It’s a concept nucleus, and it contains everything we’re talking about now, every piece of knowledge we’re talking about now. And each piece of knowledge I’m giving. If someone just gets a tiny spark, that’s a Dharma gate.

1:56:13 Yeah, you know, that’s an acorn that has the potential to create another million acorns. It’s every concept nucleus, every spark is an entry to everything, so you can find everything from there. And even if it’s somebody’s offended, if somebody’s is jarred by something you say and they go, well, you don’t understand, or you or forgiveness. Or it’s all socks and sandals, you know, just go into it a little bit deeper, you know, have a look at it, you know, if you look at something like people get offended by rosary beads. But if you look at the Buddha, you look at Christ, look at Shiva, look at all of all of.

1:56:49 They all wear rosary beads, and there’s a reason for that, and people go, Oh, that’s, you know, that’s a soft. It’s a soft solution to a hard problem. It’s not, it’s actually a Dharma gate, it’s an entry level to consciousness. Because if you look at Shiva, if you look at Christ. If you look at the Buddha, where when they look at looking at, when you’re looking at roses, they’re talking about the beads as pure concentration.

1:57:13 That’s what they represent. It’s a it’s a cryptic code, you have to find the cipher for it. The cipher is where we do the work. So it means we need to be able to concentrate and we need to concentrate on purity and we need to. And in each bead represents Mono that one of the pearls in Indra’s Web.

1:57:33 In other words, it’s the It’s the pearl of great price within us, the geometric point unable to connect to everything. So it’s not about a set of pearls and praying to, you know, to some imaginary deity. It’s about what it actually means. So when you hold a purr, when you hold a rosary and when you touch a pearl, it’s a reminder that’s the pearl of great price. That’s what I’ve got to find, and when I find that and connected to it, I’m connected to everything.

1:58:00 But to do that, I need to be able to concentrate and to be able to concentrate, I need energy and to have energy. I’ve got to take in all the energy that’s been taken from me by the 10,000 things you know, my over ambition, my need to be validated, you know, my need for a partner, you know, whatever it is, you know, everybody’s got everybody’s most people. Most people give their wet, their energy away to the lowest common denominator, which is the world Wide Web. They spend lots of time on the world wide web, expending energy or being blood of energy. So and, you know, this is what this was an exercise gurdy I’ve used to do.

1:58:40 We used to used to give people a trigger and they would just go boom and they would just talk [expletive] and it was. He was very good at saying to people, Look, you know, I’ve just, I’ve just emptied him, I’ve just took all his energy out. So we need to make sure that we’re talking. We’re mentioning bookmans to follow earlier on a great book called The Critical Path, where he said once he understood sound and talking, he said, I never spoke for a year, he said. There’s nothing wrong with talking, he said.

1:59:08 You just got to make sure that what you talk contains tinctures of light, of love, of energy. He realized how much damage we do when we don’t control sound. And I mean, in Japanese martial arts. He would call it coated Armagaku. It’s a technique, it’s the practice of magic, sound and hermeticism.

1:59:27 It’s called I’ll Come To Me In a Minute anyway, I can’t remember, but there’s in all the different face they have. You know, they have a concept of using sound to create, you know, the In the In The Old Testament, the world was created by Sound, God spoke and the world was created. So we use sound and we create from sound. I can go from here now and I can use sound and symbols to produce food. They need.

1:59:59 Those sounds, and symbols need to be backed by Ava by a promise my credit card needs. I need to be out, I need to be trustworthy of that, and you know, and so my sound needs to be aligned. But I could go and create a car where I could, or I could create a house with the use of sound. That’s basically what you do, you know, we’re just, we’re just using sound to create, but the sound needs to be aligned, it needs to come from an aligned place. We need to know how to use sound, so that’s the that’s a practice on its own.

2:00:29 We’re using sound now on the door. I used to use sound to destroy people just by collecting the sound and driving it through. An aggressive filter used to go inside, people explode their adrenals and trigger the flight response. It was a trick I used to play with people so it meant I could win a fight without being physical. I’ve knocked people over with sound before, just with sound, it’s so powerful, I’ve seen kids destroyed just with sound.

2:00:58 We’ve seen kids on the Internet who’ve been killed with some vocal sound. You know, people have criticized them and the sub vocal sounds got inside them like a spirit, and they’ve ended up kick. Committing suicide founders needs to be respected, but what is sad spirit? But is it a dark spirit or a light spirit? Well, if it’s coming through a kind filter, it’s going to be a light spirit.

2:01:24 It’s going to go out and it’s going to create, it’s not going to be catabolic, it’s going to be anabolic. So everything I’ve done comes from watch my back, everything continues to come from that. It’s an acorn that’s continuing to grow well. It’s been 10 years we’ve been talking, and, Geoff, you’re very, very much what we’re about here in London. Real, thank you, you know.

2:01:46 So many themes that you talk about are things that we’ve, you know, explored over the last 10 years and continue for the next few decades. I don’t think there’s a coincidence in that. No, it’s just. I think you speak so many universal human truths, and thank God of your creation that we’re allowed to be reminded of that all the time. Oh, thank you, and I really.

2:02:06 I mean, I rang you up and said, Kind of come on because I want to talk about the book. And you just said, Yep, come down one a bit longer with you, you always. Yeah, I wanted a longer with you, yeah, but that was, that was my focus last time. I didn’t tell you, but I was a bit burnt out and I was. I was struggling to manage my energy, so I apologized and I did.

2:02:23 I did say to you, I’ve only got an hour and a half, but I was. I was in a regenerative phase. I’ll just finish these two books and I was just rebalancing, so I apologize for that. But we put no time limit on it today and we disappeared. TimE.

2:02:39 Yeah, which is one of the sitters which I love. It’s beautiful. The book is 99 reasons to forgive. It’s fantastic. thank you. I highly recommend people take a look at it. And like you said, it’s a panacea for all. Which is a bold statement.

2:02:53 And we don’t really necessarily need to know what happened to you. But if you take ownership of it and start going through these processes and these budos, you can really change everything. Absolutely, I’ve had experience doing this myself, so there’s a lovely line in the soha. It says, Don’t worry that you don’t understand what this spirit is doing when it goes in the devil. Just understands.

2:03:16 Don’t worry that you don’t understand this antibody, the virus will know what it is, don’t you worry? And don’t worry if you’re reading the book and you don’t fully understand it, the soul will. The soul will read it like a barcode, right? You always have an up limitation here. Geoff, thank you very much, I appreciate you. I look forward to what you’re going to be creating next.

2:03:39 I think you’ve got a lot more to create in this lifetime and your movies are incredible your books, the fiction, the non-fiction, the pyramid texts. I mean, I, you do a lot, and I’m a big fan of all of it. So thank you, thank you very much as well for all the support you’ve given me. I remember when the first come here, I remember I remember getting the invite and thinking, What have they invited me? Nobody knows me and he was so gracious and we had a great talk, didn’t we?

2:04:03 And then, like I said, This is our fourth time, so thank you. Your stuff truly resonates with our audience and so many people around the world. So I’m glad we can have these long form discussions because they’re as valuable as everything else you produce. Thank you very much. Never forget that you conveying these concepts like you said in this form, is going to be out there spreading this.

2:04:22 I think people will be watching this thousands of years from now. I really thank you, Brian, that’s right. I’m continuing to get this higher energy into humanity, which I think it’s always going to need somehow. So the reason is, resistance is because once this energy is converted, the resistance need is part of it. Whatever resists, gets churned up and is and is converted, because once it’s out there, it’s out there.

2:04:44 It’s in the acacia, it’s in the British library, but it’s also in the Acacia Library. It’s out there forever. And that’s why there is opposition towards this kind of information going now. But we need opposition. You know, we’re not, we’re not going to grow a physique without opposition, you know, we need, we need opposition in the gym and we need opposition in the work we’re going to do, but if we’ve got, if we’ve got a positive energy and opposition.

2:05:06 And we are able to bring those two together and sit in the Isthmus in the center, we can create light, but once that light’s created, it can’t be uncreated. Which is exactly what you said. It’s out there forever. Yeah, come see us again, thank you on the next work. I wish you all the best. Lots of love. Thank you, Geoff. I appreciate it. Yeah, Thanks, sir, until next time your brother, thank you.