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Jamie Wheal - Rethinking God, Sex and Death for a World That's Lost It's Mind


Stealing Fire & Rebel Wisdom

Jamie Wheal is the Executive Director of the Flow Genome Project and a thought leader in the neuro-physiology of human performance. For over a decade he has advised Fortune 500 companies like Google, Nike, and Red Bull, as well as the U.S. Naval War College, on strategy, execution and leadership. Jamie is the co-author of the Pulitzer Prize-nominated “Stealing Fire” which investigated Flow states.

His upcoming book “Recapture the Rapture: Rethinking God, Sex and Death for a World That’s Lost Its Mind”, explores the limitations and potentials of biohacking, self-help, and psychedelic revolutions.

Jamie Wheal’s journey into the exploration of human potential is rooted in a diverse range of experiences and education. His academic background includes studying literature at the University of Toronto and environmental studies at the University of British Columbia. This interdisciplinary foundation provided Wheal with a holistic perspective that would later inform his work at the intersection of science, consciousness, and performance.

Wheal gained recognition for his work in the field of flow states: a state of optimal consciousness where individuals experience peak performance, creativity, and heightened focus. He collaborated with Steven Kotler, co-authoring the influential book “Stealing Fire: How Silicon Valley, the Navy SEALs, and Maverick Scientists Are Revolutionising the Way We Live and Work” (2017). The book explores the ways in which individuals and organisations can harness altered states of consciousness, including flow, to unlock unparalleled levels of innovation and productivity.

As the co-founder of the Flow Genome Project, Jamie Wheal has been instrumental in advancing the understanding and application of flow states. The Flow Genome Project is a research and training organisation dedicated to decoding the neurobiology of flow and making these insights accessible to a broader audience. Through workshops, training programs, and research initiatives, Wheal and his team aim to democratise the knowledge of peak performance and empower people to achieve their fullest potential.

Wheal’s work extends beyond flow states to the exploration of altered states of consciousness. He delves into the ways in which these states can be harnessed for personal growth, creativity, and healing. By drawing on insights from neuroscience, psychology, and spiritual traditions, Wheal provides a comprehensive and integrative approach to understanding the full spectrum of human experience.

Jamie Wheal’s impact extends to diverse fields, including business, sports, and the arts. He has collaborated with various organisations, ranging from Fortune 500 companies to elite athletes, helping them leverage the principles of flow and altered states of consciousness to optimise performance. His innovative approach has resonated with individuals and teams seeking to push beyond conventional limits and unlock new realms of creativity and achievement.

Jamie Wheal stands as a trailblazer at the forefront of exploring human potential, consciousness, and peak performance. Through his pioneering work, Wheal has not only brought attention to the transformative power of flow states but has also encouraged a broader conversation about the nature of consciousness itself.

As individuals and organisations grapple with the challenges and opportunities of the 21st century, Jamie Wheal’s insights serve as a guide, inviting us to unlock the extraordinary within ourselves and collectively shape a more conscious and thriving world.


00:00 | Trailer.
02:45 | Brian’s thoughts on the episode.
03:54 | Brian’s introduction.
04:33 | Returning home to England, recalling the 1970s and 80s there.
07:28 | Jamie’s background.
10:25 | How experiencing flow states and mushroom incidents saved his life.
13:53 | Writing Stealing Fire led to seeking the purest, cleanest experiences of good and to share them
25:36 | Does everyone experience a peek state, how they can be achieved.
31:50 | Should everyone seek to have these experiences and the problem with over-use.
1:04:45 | Waking up, growing up showing up, should we be wary of the collectiveness of the showing up?
1:14:15 | What Jamie didn’t predict with shared profound peak experience and cathartic release.
1:22:19 | Why his next book may become his last non-fiction book.
1:26:00 | The poem at the end of the world will be his first non-fiction book,
1:27:20 | If you were to die tomorrow, what would you do today?
1:29:16 | Jamie Wheal’s writing process.
1:31:09 | Jamie’s superpower.
1:33:18 | Best and worst days of his life.
1:40:14 | What scares him.
1:42:11 | What we would be surprised to learn about Jamie Wheal.
1:44:32 | What keeps him awake at night.
1:48:37 | Success secrets.
1:49:15 | Brian’s summing up.


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