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Tony Long – Lethal Force

Tony Long was the best ‘shot’ the Met ever had. Under the codename ‘Echo 7’, he was ‘licenced to kill’ bringing down scores of targets, sometimes with deadly force. In 1985 he opened fire on a suspect to save a four-year-old girl whose mother had been stabbed to death by her assailant. Two years later he was involved in another high profile shooting while confronting three armed criminals. On both occasions Tony was commended by the Metropolitan Police Commissioner. But in the spring of 2005, coming face to face with suspected drug dealer and armed robber Azelle Rodney, a volley of point blank shots would bring his career crashing to an end, tarnish his reputation and leave him fighting a murder charge and possible life sentence.

From life or death cases and botched operations to political fallouts, this book charts the controversial career from rookie seventies beat cop to Long’s command of SO19 – the Met’s most elite specialist firearms unit. Long’s personal testimony and professional insight raises serious issues about the duties, pressures and responsibilities that fall on the shoulders of those we task to risk their lives, and take the lives of others, in our name.

00:00 Trailer.
01:50 Brian’s thoughts on the episode.
04:48 Brian’s introduction.
05:31 Twenty years of service based in Shoreditch.
06:37 Historical reasons for introduction of armed police officers in UK and the British attitude to it.
19:13 What the term ‘policing’ means to Tony.
23:23 Becoming part of SPG and the London SWAT team, but missing being a street duty officer.
32:11 Why Tony originally wanted to join the police.
42:28 Time of change in the type of criminals committing gun crime.
46:44 Unbalanced reporting of armed officer operations.
49:38 The day Tony shot and killed Azelle Rodney.
1:07:36 Once you’ve shot someone they are no longer a cardboard target.
1:10:15 1985 Tony shoots Errol Walker.
1:14:49 Tony’s life made uncomfortable by police after he shoots 2 dead in 1987.
1:20:22 Video footage of operations may not be as the brain recollects.
1:28:23 Tony’s argument with how Police Officers are treated having done the job they are trained to do.
1:39:21 How Tony feels about Azelle Rodney.
1:40:54 The assumption of institutional racism.
1:44:24 Is this taking place in an economic prism?
1:45:24 Defending the use of hard stops.
1:49:14 The three controversial shootings: Azelle Rodney, Mark Duggan and Jermaine Baker.
2:00:09 How it felt to be charged with murder and then acquitted.
2:03:24 Why Tony wrote his book.
2:07:21 Should the police be armed?
2:20:18 Thoughts on the American police system, contrasting it with the UK police force.
2:26:12 Tony’s view of the general level of gun violence in America.
2:39:18 Brian’s summing up.

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Bannitychuck67
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Fascinating interview. Thanks I really enjoyed watching.

Andrew Highland
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I think deep down a lot of people expect the police officers to have no self-interest or self-preservation. Realistically you cannot expect someone to do a dangerous job involving violence and potential death and completely put aside those human instincts of self-preservation. Like, should the police have just fled the scene because the suspect may have been armed? How should the police have proceeded in your estimation in such a case where there was reasonable suspicion of danger? I see a lot of idealism in discussion about police violence, from people who can afford to be idealists in their relatively… Read more »
Andrew Highland
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I think that people who have an anti-police bias will make this guy out to be a bad person. I think deep down these same people expect the police officers to have no self-interest or self-preservation. Realistically you cannot expect someone to do a dangerous job involving violence and potential death and completely put aside those human instincts of self-preservation. Like, should the police have just fled the scene because the suspect may have been armed? How should the police have proceeded in your estimation in such a case where there was reasonable suspicion of danger? I see a lot… Read more »
DanHunter
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Can he say ‘you know’ a few more times please?

Egidijus Nasevičius
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One of the best interviews so far. Thank you very much for that!

Michael Ritzema
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Very difficult topic. I’m glad you chose to take on such an interview. My head is still reeling.

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NickC
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Good interview generally but have to say it is surprising and not a little disappointing that Brian is echoing the BS of ‘institutional racism’ being touted by professional misleaders such as Black Lives Matter. He needs to look at what BLM says and the people they actually protect and in which instances. All the cases they rave about are provably BS and were CRIMINALS resisting arrest or armed. The percentage of crime committed by POC is hugely disproportionate to the population size, in fact given those demographics you could expect the number of police actions resulting in armed response to… Read more »
Andrew Highland
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All 4 of these cases were used by BLM to stoke racial resentment, when there was not a single shred of evidence of racism in any one of them. NBC edited George Zimmerman’s 911 call to make it sound like he brought up Trayvon’s race out of nowhere, the news media used pictures of Trayvon much younger than he was at the the time of his death, all the physical evidence points to George’s story being true, and yet this case, because of the media and hysterical racists, led to the creation of the BLM movement. Nick, your comment got… Read more »
Andrew Highland
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All 4 of these cases were used by BLM to stoke racial resentment, when there was not a single shred of evidence of racism in any one of them. NBC edited George Zimmerman’s 911 call to make it sound like he brought up Trayvon’s race out of nowhere, the news media used pictures of Trayvon much younger than he was at the the time of his death, all the physical evidence points to George’s story being true, and yet this case, because of the media and hysterical racists, led to the creation of the BLM movement. Nick, your comment got… Read more »
Kwaku Dapaah-Danquah
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“All the cases they rave about are provably BS and were CRIMINALS resisting arrest or armed” Usually I wouldn’t respond to comments like this but as a London Realer, I would like to presume that you are open-minded and willing to be educated about something that you are clearly misinformed about. I can name you many examples of UNARMED, INNOCENT people killed by the police that the BLM movement has tried to raise awareness about, but this website should suffice: https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/unarmed/. Please read their stories and the circumstances around their deaths and be reminded that this was in 2015 alone.… Read more »
Andrew Highland
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The information on the specific cases which brought BLM to the forefront of public discourse is all linked in these videos, and the videos analyze that information. If you don’t like the analysis, simply go to the source material and see the truth for yourself. “Nevertheless, I do agree that POC commit a disproportionate rate of SOME crimes relative to their population.” Only some groups do compared to whites and some groups don’t. In the US, Hispanics and American blacks commit more crimes than whites and whites commit more crimes than East Asians. I’m not sure about the UK, but… Read more »
Logica1ity
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Great interview but the audio is very quiet

Bujar Murati
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Yep, same here. Even with everything at 100% it’s hard to hear anything. Earphones help though.

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