In part one, Master Mantak Chia introduced the Taoist idea of “three gates” of female pleasure and spent most of the time on the first. This follow-up clip, from the same November 2019 London Real interview, picks up where that left off: Brian Rose asks him about the second and third gates, and about why, in Taoist teaching, technique matters more than speed.
As before, it is frank, full of old Taoist imagery and often funny. Here is a guide to what he says.
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The “mysterious gate”
Chia’s second gate is what Western writers call the G-spot. In Taoist teaching, he says, it was called the mysterious gate, partly because it is so easy to miss. He describes it as sitting on the upper wall of the vagina, close to the urethra, and says that in many positions a partner simply passes it by. The West, in his view, “just discovered it” without knowing what to do with it.
His answer is practice. He talks about learning gentle vibration with the fingers rather than pressure, and recommends training both hands, starting with the weaker one so you don’t go too hard too soon.
Screwing, not bumping
The most memorable line in the clip is Chia’s distinction between two styles of movement. The Tao, he says, has always taught a “screwing technique, not a bumping technique.” Rather than simply moving in and out, he describes a circular, spiralling motion led by the hips and sacrum.
His reasoning comes from Taoist reflexology. He believes different areas along the vaginal wall connect to different organs and glands, so a circular motion reaches more of them. That is traditional Taoist teaching rather than anatomy as Western medicine describes it, and Chia presents it as such.
Brian draws a wider point: this is useful for everyone, whatever their relationship. Men and women, two women, two men: “the same thing,” Chia agrees.
The third gate
The final part of the clip covers what Chia calls the uterine orgasm, which he sees as the deepest level. In his teaching, the gates open in order, first, second, third, and he estimates that most women never reach the third.
He uses another Taoist saying to make the point about patience: “The boat does not float on the rocky river.” In plain terms, he says, rushing ahead without real arousal is a shortcut, and he is dismissive of relying on lubricant instead.
Chia also links this practice to wider health benefits, including lower cancer risk and brain health, and refers to research he says supports this. Those are his claims, not established medical findings, and they are not a reason to change any health care.
Practice on your own
As with his teaching for men, Chia ends with solo practice. He describes women learning to identify and gently contract the uterus each day, building the awareness that later helps with a partner. Brian sums it up: she practises on her own first. Chia draws the parallel with men training the prostate muscles, the subject of his best-known London Real clip.
This clip reflects Mantak Chia’s Taoist teaching and his own views. It is not medical advice. If you have concerns about your sexual or general health, speak to a doctor.
Who is Master Mantak Chia?
Mantak Chia is a Thai-born Taoist master, teacher and author, and the founder of the Universal Healing Tao system. He has written dozens of books on Taoist practice, including qigong, meditation and the cultivation of sexual energy, and he runs the Tao Garden retreat in northern Thailand.
This clip comes from his 2019 London Real episode, How To Become A Sexual Master. Start with part one of this conversation, or watch his most popular clip: Master Mantak Chia – Sexual Exercises For Men.
See everything Mantak Chia has done with London Real on his guest page: Master Mantak Chia on London Real.
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Transcript
Transcript: Master Mantak Chia – How To Master The Vagina Part 2: The Second And Third Gates
0:00 Mantak Chia: Sometimes the clitoris is hard to activate, so you go into the mysterious gate. We call it the mysterious gate, it’s actually mysterious, because it’s not in the vagina. Again, because the gland actually has the same function as a prostate gland.
0:22 Brian Rose: Okay, but on the woman.
0:24 Mantak Chia: On the woman, it’s cramped on the urethra, on the top of the vagina. So here is the vagina, and it’s on the top here. Very hard to get. The penis doesn’t even touch it, normally.
0:35 Brian Rose: Again, mind-boggling.
0:37 Mantak Chia: Unless it expands to one level, and you are angled up only. Usually, you bypass it.
0:46 Brian Rose: Right, so in certain sexual positions, and if it’s expanded, then maybe the penis touches it.
0:52 Mantak Chia: Right. But otherwise, no, it doesn’t. So you have to use hands. So the Tao technique… and now the West also discovered the same point, they call it the G-spot.
1:05 Brian Rose: G-spot, right. That was big in the 60s, right.
1:08 Mantak Chia: But they just discovered it, and they don’t know what to do with it. So the Tao said you have to identify them, and you have to work on yourself. So here is the vagina, and you put the finger in, and now you get to that point, and you train the vibration.
1:31 Brian Rose: Okay, you have to get that vibration.
1:32 Mantak Chia: You have to train the vibration, because if you press up, that gland goes up. So you have to press it down a little bit, and you vibrate. You need vibration, because it’s a round gland. If you pick one point, and then don’t expand to the round, now you cannot get the ejaculation.
1:54 Brian Rose: Okay.
1:55 Mantak Chia: Because there’s a lot of fluid. It’s a big fluid in there. So when you activate… so there’s the training of the vibration. The man has to train: you just have to train with your own finger, because this is the spot, it’s the spot right there.
2:17 Brian Rose: How long does it take you to teach men how to do that?
2:19 Mantak Chia: They just have to play with it. Just play with it.
2:23 Brian Rose: On your own hand.
2:24 Mantak Chia: Yes. Play with that.
2:27 Brian Rose: You were breathing. You were like, this is new stuff. And the vibration. I remember you saying before, you don’t use your strong hand, you use your weak hand, right?
2:36 Mantak Chia: Because sometimes some people make it too fast. So you train both hands. Sometimes you get tired in one hand, you use the other hand. But the weak hand is easier, because you don’t go too much in the beginning, you don’t go too hard. And after you activate them, now you know that it’s close. Because it’s cramped on the urethra, the lady can think that they need to pee, because when you stimulate them, it stimulates the bladder.
3:10 Brian Rose: Okay, so they’ll feel like they need to pee, or maybe they will.
3:14 Mantak Chia: No. No, no, but they’ll feel like it. Because they’re separate.
3:18 Brian Rose: Separate, okay. That means you know you’re in the right spot.
3:21 Mantak Chia: Right.
3:22 Brian Rose: Okay. So start with the clitoris, right? And massage that, tofu or no tofu, and then go into the G-spot, or what do you call it?
3:30 Mantak Chia: Second gate. The mysterious gate.
3:32 Brian Rose: Mysterious gate.
3:33 Mantak Chia: Because in the olden times, even now, we don’t explain to people and give a picture for them to see. They say: what? This will be the penis in and out in the vagina, okay? So if you’re missing it, it’s a puzzle.
3:50 Brian Rose: Yeah.
3:51 Mantak Chia: And so that’s why the Tao always talks about the screwing technique, not a bumping technique. It’s very important. So that’s why the sacrum has to learn how to spin like that: because of the screwing technique.
4:04 Brian Rose: Right.
4:05 Mantak Chia: I don’t know if England discovered that name. I don’t know that.
4:10 Brian Rose: Right. Screwing technique.
4:12 Mantak Chia: Yes. So actually, the Tao talks about the screwing technique by spinning the sacrum: left spin, right spin. It’s just the screwing.
4:21 Brian Rose: Okay. And this is during sex, and you use your hips if you’re the man.
4:24 Mantak Chia: Yes. You use the hip, the sacrum, not bumping. In and out, you miss everything.
4:33 Brian Rose: Yeah. So the screwing will hit the second gate.
4:35 Mantak Chia: Maybe. That means… because the reflexology is all on the wall, okay, because the woman is a long channel. So if you’re in and out, you miss a lot of things. But on the wall, like on the lips, the outside lips, they are connected to all the gland system, the same as the nipple. So when you work actively, a lot of hormones activate. And when you go in, the heart and the lung, and when you go in, kidney, liver, spleen. So all on the wall. Not in the middle. It’s all on the wall. We call them the organ reflexology points.
5:24 Brian Rose: And if you’re twisting that wall, then everything’s connected, and you get all sorts of stimulation.
5:28 Mantak Chia: You stimulate the organs also.
5:29 Brian Rose: Okay, good. I think this is really important stuff for both men and women to understand. So if the men understand the women, and if the women understand the multiple male orgasms, then everyone can work together.
5:40 Mantak Chia: Right.
5:41 Brian Rose: And if you’re two women, then you should understand this. And if you’re two men, you can understand this.
5:46 Mantak Chia: Yeah, the same thing.
5:47 Brian Rose: And if you’re six people, you can understand this, right? Okay, so finally, the third gate. Let’s talk about that.
5:53 Mantak Chia: The third gate, we said, is the uterus orgasm. The uterus orgasm was proved… the West proved it also. The East, in the olden times, didn’t have that kind of machine and all these things. But the West discovered that when a lady feeds the baby milk, they have less cancer, breast and uterus cancer. But they don’t talk about why. So we know that when the baby sucks the breast, the uterus contracts, contracts, contracts, and the uterus is involved with the breast. So when the uterus contracts, like exercise, more energy, more blood, more flow too, the lady has less chance to get cancer.
6:51 Mantak Chia: Now in Holland, they have done the same research, and they have many people testing with orgasm, and they found a way to have the uterus orgasm, because with orgasm it’s contracting, contracting. But the Tao discovered that with the first gate ejaculation, second gate ejaculation, now the third gate starts to open. There’s a spot on the cervix, on the side, a spot like that. So that spot: when the lady is on the top, the penis goes right there, to that spot. And that spot is on the side of the cervix. So when the woman just sits and moves, because it hits right on that spot, when the woman just moves back and forth, left and right, and spirals, now the woman ejaculates. And the uterus… and men can feel it, because that spot contracts, and the uterus contracts, contracts, contracts.
7:54 Mantak Chia: So when they did the research, they discovered that when the lady has a uterus orgasm, they have less chance to get uterus and breast cancer. That is the same result as, I think, many thousand women with the breastfeeding.
8:13 Brian Rose: Okay. Yeah. So this stuff can save your life.
8:16 Mantak Chia: Yes.
8:17 Brian Rose: Controlling this, and understanding.
8:19 Mantak Chia: But the result is that 85% of ladies will never experience the uterus orgasm.
8:26 Brian Rose: Wow.
8:27 Mantak Chia: Because you need the first gate, the second gate, and then the third gate will open.
8:30 Brian Rose: Okay. In that order.
8:32 Mantak Chia: In that order. The boat does not float on the rocky river.
8:36 Brian Rose: Right. What does that mean?
8:38 Mantak Chia: There’s no fluid. If the lady has no ejaculation, the vagina is too dry. That means now we have technology, you use cream, you use a lot of cream to do it. That’s cheating.
8:53 Brian Rose: Cheating. Yeah.
8:55 Mantak Chia: But when you get the woman’s ejaculation, a lot of fluid comes out, so now it’s easy to go in.
9:01 Brian Rose: Okay.
9:02 Mantak Chia: And with the uterus orgasm, a different kind of fluid comes out from the vagina. And the lady is so… actually the brain is contracting.
9:16 Brian Rose: Really?
9:17 Mantak Chia: And that must… it can help the lady with Alzheimer’s disease, because the brain [unclear] activates.
9:23 Brian Rose: Wow.
9:24 Mantak Chia: Yeah. Because the uterus is connected with the brain. The same thing in men: the prostate is connected with the brain.
9:29 Brian Rose: Right. A few years ago, I would have thought that was crazy, but now I know if you say it, it probably is.
9:36 Mantak Chia: So a woman can learn, through the nipple, to identify the uterus, and just every day sit and contract. When you identify and activate the uterus, and you contract, now you feel it, and you do it up to a few thousand times, you get orgasm.
10:00 Brian Rose: Okay.
10:01 Mantak Chia: So when a lady can feel it, and the brain activates, now the woman can actually help a man to help her to have the uterus orgasm, because she can contract enough. When you contract enough, like that, now the lady can.
10:24 Brian Rose: Okay. So she practises that on her own, and then she can do it herself.
10:27 Mantak Chia: Yeah. The same thing: if you identify the prostate gland, and you contract it every day, you get the prostate gland orgasm without ejaculation. Because the prostate gland controls the ejaculation.
10:38 Brian Rose: Okay.
