Full transcript: IRONMIND, Episode 2
0:02 This week on Iron Minds. That is not athlete food, this is poison. The mind always shuts down the body.
0:16 Under pressure reveals true character, what are you gonna do? My name is Brian Rose and I host a show called London Real. A few months ago, John Joseph, the front man of the hardcore punk band, The Cro-Mags, walked into my studio. He’s the complete opposite of me but something happened. He challenged me to race the Ironman triathlon in Chattanooga, Tennessee on May 20th on 100% plant-based diet.
0:58 I’m 47 years old and have never run an endurance race in my life but they say what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger. This is my journey to the Ironman.
1:27 Yo John. It’s the ball buster, I’m here to bust your balls, let me in.
1:43 What’s up? Sup, bro? What you got going on over there? What’s that I smell? Bro, I got news for you.
1:51 What the f*ck? That is not athlete food, this is poison what you’re f*ckin’ eatin’. If you’re doing this shit with me, you’re doing it the way I’m doing it. Only plants? Only plants.
2:02 What about chicken and fish? No, no, no, no, no, no. You’re asking me to do an Ironman in 90 f*ckin’ days and now you’re gonna make me eat a bunch of f*ckin’ lettuce? Hold on, slow, listen. Plants is your gig, man.
2:11 Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, stop with, stop acting like you know. Don’t act like you know ’cause you don’t. I’ve been doing this shit 37 mother f*ckin’ years, there’s science to back up what I’m telling you. You’re 46, gonna be 47, for you to be eatin’ like a f*ckin’ 18 year old is f*ckin’ nonsense. What’s next, John?
2:30 I gotta do this with one leg, John? Motha f*cka, you got jokes. So I’m gonna go show you the science and how good science can taste, mothe f*cka. All right, show me then. You ready? Let’s do it.
2:42 I’ll believe it when I see it. Come on man, that’s what we’re doing.
2:50 All right. This is it, huh? This is the spot. Right across the street. What’s up, fellas?
2:57 Come here, get in on this. Protein. You got protein. Plant-based. You’re killing me, John.
3:08 I’m gonna tell you, listen, you know why, you know why I got into this in 1980? ‘Cause I watched Bad Brains, Rastafarian dude, went on stage and f*ckin’ blew me the f*ck away, I was like yo, how the f*ck you got that much energy? He’s like dude, I do, I eat man, I eat pure food that give me the energy, he don’t eat meat and he don’t eat none of this shit so this is where the power and the energy comes from, all of this, the juices, look at this. Swish it around, look at that, cucumber, take a bite.
3:48 I’m gonna take you up to the pool after we eat and show you what it’s like to be in the washing machine which is what they call the Ironman swim, you know? Create chaos in the motha f*ckin’ water.
4:09 There he is, a tattooed freak, John Joseph of the Cro-Mags. What’s up? All right, here we are man. So if you think you’re gonna have your own little private little lane in a Ironman and don’t bump into me and everything else, I’ve had motherfuckers rip my wetsuit, grab my feet, pull me down, punch me in the face, break my nose with a kick, chip my teeth. So this isn’t just a swim?
4:39 It’s really like the mosh pit in the water. Hardcore punk rock like a motherfucker.
5:08 That’s what you do. You turn onto your back, you fix your goggles because there may not be a safety crew with a paddleboard or a boat to hold onto.
5:26 Under pressure reveals true character, what are you gonna do? It’s a mindset. I was bleeding the entire race, blood coming down my face and if it was easy, everybody would do it.
5:41 Is there any New York swimmers in here? This is the thing that could f*ck athletes up, you could break a spoke, your wheel could go out of true, you have to learn how to fix a flat. It’s up to you, you gotta carry cartridges. What’s up? What’s going on?
6:26 This is the one and only. Hi, I’m Brian. Samantha Murphy. Hi, nice to meet you, Samantha Murphy. Nice to meet you, too.
6:30 I’ve done 10 Ironmans and two Olympics and marathons without a coach. Since I’ve been working with you for what, two months. Two months, yep. My f*ckin’ times are going down, I have the watch and she’s logged into my account. What’s the watch?
6:42 I have for you today, this watch is going to track GPS. It’s also going to track your heart rate. We’re gonna run some tests for your heart rate so that we get an authentic reading of who you are as an athlete so John has totally different heart rate and what we wanna do. It’s the crack. I’ll leave you to it to do it.
6:59 All right. Make me proud. Got it, we got it. I know, all right. Thanks, okay cool.
7:03 All right, we’ll see ya John, thank you. Before we get started, I just kinda wanna get to know you a little bit so tell me, tell me about you, tell me about your background as an athlete. So as an athlete, well I’m not an athlete I wouldn’t say. I do try to move everyday but I do a lot of short bursts kind of cardio stuff, I lift weights, that kinda thing so, ya know, this is new to me. I don’t do any kind of endurance swim or long distance run and I haven’t been on a bike in 20 years.
7:27 One of the things just based on that small amount of information that you gave me that’s very different is that this is a long day. This isn’t just going to work out for 40 minutes. I don’t give a shit if you can run a half marathon, I want you to run a half marathon off of a bike and that’s a very different animal. I got 90 days to prepare for this. Yeah it’s not normally what I would want or do, I’d actually want a year.
7:50 A year? Yeah, a year. All right, ready? Yeah, I’m gonna change. Let’s do it.
7:54 Okay, cool. Some funny shoes you got me wearing, Samantha. So this is like the quintessential I am not a triathlete outfit you have on.
8:15 Okay and what do I, what do I do with these? Start to spin it up. You’re gonna really focus on today is your heart rate, getting this number as high as you can during those eight minutes. We’re gonna go in five, four, three, two, one, hit it.
8:33 Little bit of bend in the elbow and just relax. This is my relaxed I think. Okay. You’re focusing on the fact that you’re about to kind of go to battle right now. How are you gonna confront the pain?
8:45 Okay so at this point, he’s probably starting to really feel it, the fight is gonna start. Channel that really intense determination that you have, Brian.
9:00 So the question becomes how bad do you want this? Think about something that is gonna drive you when it really hurts to work harder, to not give in. The mind always shuts down the body. Stay really present in the pain. Negative thoughts are gonna come, push them out and just stay focused right on the moment.
9:22 So this next minute, Brian, I want you to focus any kind of negative energy, anyone who’s ever said you couldn’t do this or doubted you in this project or process, let’s do this. Harder. Use that energy, channel it, 45 seconds, this is it. You have absolutely no chance left to make it go harder so you either do it now or you’ve wasted your time.
9:48 You can think about your children, right? You’re doing this as a role model to show them that what you’re capable of or you meet any challenge, rise to it, push beyond it. You will absolutely not back down because you would not want them to back down.
10:03 Last five, all the way to the end, three, two, one and done. Got to see some old demons. How was that? It was fun to see them. That’s great.
10:33 Okay so talk to me a little bit. So we got lots of flashbacks, I feel like I almost was gonna cry there. That’s good. Minute five, just trying to think of the people
10:46 I don’t want to let down. It’s funny, when you asked me who’s gonna, who wants me to fail and who’s always told me I can fail, that doesn’t motivate me. That doesn’t motivate you, okay. When I think about me failing and all the people I let down and when I let myself down, that’s what really felt good or bad. Okay, so that’s good, that’s a good lesson for me as a coach, right?
11:13 Right? And I’m in New York where I failed a lot so that’s what was going through my mind. Good. A lot of images. Perfect.
11:24 Kids help, too. But already, right? Huge wave of emotion, right? As soon as you start to push into that next threshold, and now you can totally see this is why John does this, right? ‘Cause he likes to cry?
11:36 I mean you’ll get good at crying and running. I’m not exactly sure why John’s doing all this, ya know? Yeah.
11:49 I don’t really know but yeah glad he’s doing it, ya know? I mean John is, he’s teacher. If you never push yourself in life like this then you kind of miss out on so much stuff. Yeah. Drink some water.
12:12 Okay, five minutes and then we gonna go again? Next week on Iron Minds. I failed in this city. All these bad memories. I almost killed myself.
12:30 What motha f*cka? What the f*ck? What happened to me in my childhood, I always felt inadequate, ya know that I didn’t matter. The spiritual process is what fixes that.
