David Icke - ROSE/ICKE 8: Banned

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3:18 Brian Rose: This is London Real. I am Brian Rose. My guest today is David Icke, the English author, broadcaster, and public speaker. For the past 30 years, you’ve been known as a professional conspiracy researcher, making it your mission to expose who and what is really controlling the world. You’re the author of over 20 books and have lectured in over 25 countries, speaking live for up to 10 hours to tens of thousands of people, delivering incredibly accurate predictions to captivated audiences from all walks of life. Your research into prominent political figures, influential family bloodlines, global events, and the pandemic has received widespread criticism from the mainstream media. But in turn, you fostered a legion of fans who have grown tired of the government cover-ups, big tech censorship, and the global manipulation efforts that have become an increasing presence in our everyday lives.

4:06 Brian Rose: In 2020, you and I conducted an epic series of five record-breaking long-form live broadcasts, which fundamentally changed the world, allowing tens of millions of people access to an alternative narrative that was crucial in understanding the complicated and challenging times we faced. Now, in 2022, because of your relentless pursuit in exposing the truth, you have been banned from entering the Netherlands alongside 25 other European countries for the next 2 years and deemed a level three terrorist. As I’ve said before, David, while I don’t agree with everything you say, I will defend to the death your right to say it and your right to assemble in any country on this planet. Here we go again, our 11th conversation. And let’s see if we can get through this without being blocked, banned, censored, and deleted again.

4:56 Brian Rose: David, welcome back to London Real.

4:56 David Icke: Thank you, Brian.

5:00 Brian Rose: Before we start, I want to remind everyone we’re streaming live on our digital freedom platform. It’s a censorship free independent broadcasting system built in 2020 that is of the people, by the people, for the people, and it’s available exclusively on our website at freedomplatform.tv. Can everyone watching now please share this link via the sidebar to any and all of your social media channels, Telegram chats or email list? Let me just repeat that. Can everyone watching please do us a favor and share this link now via the sidebar to all of your channels. This is important. Simply ask your friends and family to give us 15 minutes and then they can decide. Throughout each one of our live broadcasts, David, nearly 75% of our viewers came from sharing this episode link peer-to-peer. So please share this to all your contacts and platforms. David, I pledge to you and everyone watching us that none of this conversation will be edited, censored, removed, or banned, and that anyone in the world can watch the full version of this episode free at freedomplatform.tv.

5:55 Brian Rose: Before we start, I want to remind our viewers that here at London Real, we’ve been fighting for freedom since 2011. We remain one of the few global media companies whose message is not compromised by advertisers, regulators, or big technology platforms. Now, David, the time has come. What happened on November 4th? That’s the day you were banned from 26 countries in Europe for two entire years.

6:19 David Icke: Well, I seem to be banned from a lot of places, Brian, really. And when you were in a world where the lies have become normality and misinformation is a label given to the truth or alternative opinion then if the system globally wants to ban you then you must be saying something right. This is the situation and the stage that we’ve got. So I’ve been banned from Australia. That was in 2019. And then I was and it’s been very very difficult over a long period of time even in this country and Europe to do public events because it’s real simple. The intimidation of the venue is all that’s necessary to get the event pulled and lots of people now are going through this but I’ve been going through it since the mid-1990s so we’ve tried so far given up a long time ago mine 72 different venues in Germany and all it takes is that David I he’s going to say this and that and the And by the way, if you don’t stop it, then it’s going to be trouble for you.

7:50 David Icke: Oh, well, we’ll cancel them. That’s all it takes. And so this has gone on for a long time and I’ve become used to it. And it’s almost like a it’s like a war medal cuz if they’re trying to shut you up on this scale, on this global scale, then you must be saying something they don’t want the population to hear. So anyway, I get invited to speak at a peace rally in Amsterdam. I think it was November the 6th it was due to happen and I agreed. Yeah, no problem.

8:38 David Icke: So this is the sequence that followed and it’s exactly the sequence that happened in Australia. First of all, there’s a ultra-Zionist organization in the Netherlands called CIDI. There’s the equivalent in Australia that did the same called the Anti-Defamation Commission, I recall it was called, and they start putting out this man’s a Holocaust denier and he’s an anti-Semite. Okay. Do I have a say in this? Oh, no. No, no, no, no, no, no. You can’t ever say this is what you are. What happens then? Same in Australia is the media pick it up and they start amplifying it everywhere. This man’s an anti-semite.

9:27 David Icke: This man’s an Holocaust denier. And so it goes on. And the media in the Netherlands demonized me completely. Mainstream newspapers, television, radio, all of it. Not one of them in that period came to me and said, “Can you come on and have your say and put your point of view?” Not one. None of them. Cuz they’re gutless and spineless as well as clueless. And what happens then is the media coverage alerts the wokers, the what I call the anti-fascist fascists and the anti-hate haters. These are the organizations call themselves anti-fascist that are going around trying to destroy the ability of those they target from having their opinion and having a public event or a public space to say what they think.

10:33 David Icke: Now, I don’t know if you remember, Brian, but there was this group in Germany in the 1930s and across the Second World War. I think they called them Nazis. And they were doing exactly the same. Anyone that was exposing the Nazis had their events shut down, the books burned famously or infamously. And so now you have these anti-fascist groups like Antifa for instance in America that act in precisely the same way as the Nazis and they call themselves anti-fascists.

11:22 David Icke: And also you have this situation now where if you challenge any element of the agenda, what I call the global cult agenda because that’s what it is, including human cause climate change, which is scientific nonsense by the way. Then they’re on your case cuz you’re not allowed to have a different view of climate change. Only their view is allowed. So it reached the point in the Netherlands where thanks to CIDI starting it off and the amplification massively in the Netherlands media, these groups start appearing and they say we are going to have a counter rally and a counter demonstration in this square called Dam Square in Amsterdam against Icke speaking.

12:20 David Icke: Then you’ve got the politicians and the government run by this man this tyrannical man Mark Rutte who’s targeting the farmers in the Netherlands for global cult reasons which we may be able to get into and the politicians then virtue signaling of course oh yes we going to have this man he’s a Holocaust denier, all that stuff. And finally, it gets to the immigration department and the so-called Justice Department, which is an inversion of inversions of inversions, justice department in the Netherlands, as it is in almost every other country. And they say, “Well,” and we’ve talked to the police, and the police say, “Because there’s going to be counter demonstrations by anti-fascist fascists and anti-hate haters, the anti-haters that want you to hate their targets and also Extinction Rebellion is also going to be there because he’s challenging climate change.

13:24 David Icke: You’re not going to be allowed to come into the Netherlands because your presence might might cause trouble.” And I’m sitting on the Isle of Wight thinking, well, hold on a minute. I was asked to speak at a peace rally and a against war rally, and I agreed. And through nothing I’ve said, all this furore in the Netherlands has been created. And those that have created it are using the furore and the backlash against me based on the demonization to justify me not going.

14:11 David Icke: So I’m sitting in a hotel in Kent waiting to go through the Channel Tunnel the next day and just like in with Australia along comes this diatribe from the immigration department of the Netherlands government. In terms of Australia, I was sitting in a hotel in near LA airport, four hours from getting me plane to a six city speaking tour of Australia and the Australian immigration minister, bloke called David Coleman, he sends me a diatribe telling me that I he knows I’ve been there 10 times before and it’s never been a problem, but you’re not coming this time. Right. And what the Netherlands missive said was you your presence has stirred up all this trouble.

14:57 David Icke: No, no, you have and so you’re not coming. And it was fascinating to me to see that one of the reasons given was that I’m talking about re a reptilian force running the world right in the shadows from the shadows. And I’m thinking hold on a minute. I thought that was crazy. I thought I’m mad for saying that. It’s always what’s been said before and suddenly it appears on a on an official Netherlands government document telling me it’s one of the reasons I’m not allowed in.

15:43 David Icke: So what followed and what was in this document is not only are you banned from the Netherlands, but you’re also banned from 25 other countries in the so-called Schengen group which have a common border policy. And so you’re not allowed into those countries either, which includes France, etc. If you’re coming from Britain and more than that the Schengen information system as it’s called is recognized by other European countries European Union countries not in the Schengen group and by other countries not in the European Union including the United States as a criteria for whether they allow someone in or not.

16:40 David Icke: So, I’m not just banned from 26 countries, including the Netherlands, but from a vast track of the world, including Australia. Now, then the question comes, hold on a minute. He’s one bloke. He’s one guy living in a one-bedroom flat on the Isle of Wight. And he’s banned from all these countries by these governments. What on earth can he be saying? And the other question, Brian, is this, and it’s a point that’s worth emphasizing?

17:31 David Icke: Why are they frightened of me? Why are they so terrified of me that they go to these ludicrous childlike extremes to try to stop people hearing what I’m saying? And what that shows you, and I have been emphasizing this over the years, is where the real power is. And it’s not with these people that appear to have the power. If it was They wouldn’t care less about one bloke on the Isle of Wight putting this information out. They just laugh. Does it matter, mate? We’re in power. But it matters to them to the point where they ban me from much of the world. Why?

18:23 David Icke: Because they know their narrative is child’s play to take a part. And therefore the only way they are going to defend their nonsensical narrative is by silencing anyone exposing and dismantling the narrative. And therefore you have the explanation for why the scale of censorship worldwide, mainstream media, Silicon Valley, all of it has become so hysterical.

19:10 David Icke: And you know, I was in all the media, mainstream media in the Netherlands as they were demonizing me. But when you’ve got a British citizen who’s quite controversial actually who’s suddenly banned from 26 European countries, all the rest but officially 26. And the mainstream media in Britain hardly touched the story, hardly mentioned it. In fact, quite a lot of the what I call mainstream light alternative never mentioned it. And the reason they’re so frightened of me is because I go so deep in the rabbit hole and I go into those levels that this global conspiracy there said it to enslave humanity where it’s actually coming from how it works and how all the dots connect so that everything that you see organizations people, governments, banking systems, Silicon Valley, World Health Organization are not operating in isolation and in a random fashion.

20:34 David Icke: They are if you go deep enough in these organizations, you reach that level of them where actually it’s one web pushing the world in one direction. And what’s happened is as they have moved closer and closer to their goal, which we can get into. This process of seeing groups and organizations and people moving as one unit has become blatantly obvious with anyone with eyes to see. So you have the G20 recently moving as one unit to a digital world and a QR world along the Chinese pattern blueprint.

21:33 David Icke: And if you look at the key elements of this agenda, take the COVID, take the jab, take human cause, global warming, take Ukraine, on and on it goes. Governments speak the same narrative. The mainstream media worldwide speaks the same narrative. And Silicon Valley censors on the basis of defending the same narrative. And so people talk about conspiracy theorists.

22:21 David Icke: Well, what about the coincidence theorists that all these different elements, all these different groups speaking with the one tongue and censoring anyone who’s challenging it? Well, that’s one hell of a coincidence. And it needs to be explained how such a coincidence can possibly happen. It needs to be explained just as an aside why countries all over the world and organizations all over the world had the idea pretty much at the same time. Oh, I know. I’ve had a great idea. Funny enough, I’ve had the same one.

23:06 David Icke: And me and me. We’re going to put drag queens into schools to read stories to small kids and then we’re going to advance it as it is in America and many other places now where the drag queens are going to strut their stuff in front of the little kids. There’s a reason why that’s happening which maybe we can get into as well. But again, coincidence theorists explain to me how this idea came to so many people at the same time. So, where we are with the Netherlands is there’s a court hearing on the 9th of December and we’ve just heard just before we started this chat that I am not allowed cuz there’s brilliant people in the Netherlands who were supporting me and lawyers who’ve taken the government to court for this ludicrous ban and They asked the immigration department of the Netherlands, if I can come in to the Netherlands for one day, December the 9th, to represent myself in court with the lawyers, and they’ve just turned it down.

24:23 David Icke: They’ve said the only thing you can do is basically come in on Zoom or something from Britain, from England. So, we have this situation. Therefore, where the authorities, and so they should be, by the way, are so terrified of me, they won’t even let me into their country for one day to appear in a court case, which is about me in person. And there’s a petition going around. It’s free david ike.eu EU which we’re trying to get as many people to sign. And we’re past already the 40,000 signatures.

25:13 David Icke: That means it triggers a debate on this in the Dutch Parliament. But the more we can get the better because it puts more pressure on the authorities. But that is the scale of where we’re at. And you know, in our chats over the over the last few years, I’ve said to you that the plan is that eventually no one anywhere hears anything that isn’t approved by the authorities. Everything you see and hear is planned to be sanctioned by authority or you don’t see or hear it. And we are moving down that road so fast now because of a another process that I’ve talked to you about which is the more you centralize power, the more power you have at the center to centralize even quicker.

26:20 David Icke: And so the more control they’ve accumulated at the center, the more they can advance their agenda, not least through censorship. So the censorship has got greater. They, if you remember, they started off people like YouTube saying, “We’re going to demonetize in other words, not give any advertising revenue to people who are challenging the system.” That was stage one because it’s like how do these people operate? Well, a lot of them operated from revenue from YouTube and their videos. Oh, okay. We’ll target that. And then the next stage was outright bans eventually. And it’s gone on and on and on ever since. And you know the really tragic thing well there many tragic things relating to this but this one those called wokers who are absolutely operating as the foot soldiers of this censorship who go out and protest When someone’s speaking at an event somewhere that they saying something they don’t agree with or think they don’t agree with, those people are creating the very global fascist tyranny, centralized global globally fascist tyranny that they, their children and their grandchildren will have to live in and exactly the same applies to the mainstream media and those operating in Silicon Valley, the foot soldiers of Silicon Valley, not the not the people that that run the place cuz they’re in on it anyway.

28:24 David Icke: You’ve got so-called journalists all over the world. And what happened in the Netherlands is classic where the entire mainstream media was turned on me. Didn’t want to give me even any opportunity to put my case and challenge what was happening. And that’s happening in countries all over the world. So you’ve got people called journalists and television presenters and radio presenters and what they do is they get up in the morning and they say goodbye to their children as they go to school and they then go to work and they promote the narrative of this global cult even though the vast majority won’t even know there’s a cult.

29:24 David Icke: Or a narrative. They’ll just follow the party line and then they’ll go home and they’ll see their children again when they’ve spent the day promoting an agenda and demonizing those challenging it that is going to enslave those children for the rest of their lives. And if people want to know, and I’ve been saying this for so long, so many years, if people want to see where this is planned to go, look at China today because China’s the blueprint for the rest of the world.

30:11 Brian Rose: And I want to get into China. I want to address how they attack you. So I want to ask, is David Icke an anti-semite?

30:21 David Icke: Well, first of all, anti-semitism means basically anti-Arab, ironically, because the word Semitic relates to a language group in the Middle East which is over overwhelmingly Arabic languages. But okay, let’s look at the way it’s used, which means anti-Jewish. Well, you know the guy who invited me to the Netherlands and is driving this court case to challenge my ban. His name’s Mordechai. He’s Jewish. He lost 21 members of his family in Nazi Germany.

31:13 David Icke: And as he’s asked the media himself in the Netherlands, why would I ask an anti-semite to speak in the Netherlands and then stand up for his right to free speech? Why would I do that? And the answer, of course, is he wouldn’t. And the irony is, Brian, that if you look at my philosophy on life, my philosophy on reality, and what I’ve been warning about in terms of this conspiracy, in terms of the first one, as you know, we’ve talked about this many times in the chats.

32:06 David Icke: My philosophy on life is that we are all points of attention within one single infinite state of consciousness awareness and that the labels of a human life whether you call them Jewish, Muslim, Christian, agnostic, humanist, Hindu are simply experiences that our consciousness is having. We are not the labels of a human life. They are experiences that we are having. And your sexuality, whatever it may be, is a human experience.

33:03 David Icke: And the human experience as you know when you get to 70 years of age as I am now is very very brief. It’s gone in that time right and therefore the labels of a human life what your religion is what your race is what your culture is a brief human experience. It’s not who we are. What we are is the consciousness having the experience and that in the end we are all one. Now perhaps someone would explain to me how judging a human experience by the culture, religion or sexuality fits into that philosophy on life.

34:01 David Icke: As I’ve said many, many times, if you perceive someone by the nature of their body or by the nature of their background and you perceive them not on the basis of who they are and what they do and how they act, but on the basis of genetics or the basis of culture or religion. Then you have completely lost the bloody plot about what this is. It’s a brief experience called human.

34:47 David Icke: And what I do is I look at how people behave and act and you make your judgment on that. If someone’s a psychopath and they’re running a government, I’m going to call them out. If they’re Jewish, I’m going to call them out. If they’re Muslim, I’m going to call them out. If they’re Christian, I’m going to call them out. And if they are a decent person who believes in freedom and believes in justice and fairness for all equally, then if they’re Jewish or they’re Muslim or they’re Christian or whatever, I’m going to say, “Good on you, mate.

35:33 David Icke: I’m with you.” And let me sum it sum up my philosophy like this or sum up my the way I look at reality and people show me any group doesn’t matter what it is any religious group any cultural group any political group any group of any kind anywhere and within those groups I’ll show you psychopaths. I’ll show you all right people who are not psychopaths. And I’ll show you lovely nice people. And whether that group is Jewish or Muslim or Christian or Hindu or any of them, that will be the same.

36:28 David Icke: Are we saying that no Jewish people can be psychopaths? Are we saying that? Are you insane? Are we saying that no Muslim can have psychopaths, no Hindu, no Christian? Of course, the spectrum of the group is the spectrum of human perception and human behavior. But this is the point. If you mention someone who is Jewish, and I tell you what was really hilarious in this stuff from the immigration department in the Netherlands is they said, “You are reported to say that a partly Jewish group is running the world.”

37:19 David Icke: Well, so how am I an anti-semite then if even by your criteria I’m saying partly Jewish? So I must be saying other things. I must be saying Christians and Muslims see Saudi Arabia and that government as well. So what I’m doing is I’m calling out different elements of this cult that are expressed in every culture and every religious group. But you mention someone who’s Jewish like George Soros for instance and immediately you’re not calling out George Soros.

38:09 David Icke: You’re saying the whole of the Jewish people are involved in this conspiracy? No, I’m not. I’m saying George Soros is and this is how it works. It’s a dangerously effective tool. It’s immensely effective. And I’ll tell you one of the interesting things cuz it’s all psychological. If you’re a few and you want to control billions of people, you have to do it psychologically because there’s not enough of you actually to do it physically. So why do they go for Holocaust denial? Because as I was saying, you I talked about my philosophy there on life, which is we’re all one. We don’t care what your bloody label is.

38:57 David Icke: But I’m also for the last 33 years nearly now been warning that where the world is going is a global version of Nazi Germany. I mean, irony or what, I’m the one warning with many others around the world now that the way the world is going is to be a global version of Nazi Germany. And the people who are acting like Nazis, who want to silence anyone they don’t agree with, are calling me a Nazi cuz we’re anti-fascist. When I’ve been saying for 33 years nearly, this world is going in the direction of Nazi Germany only.

39:55 David Icke: It will be global this time. So whether you look at my philosophy on life and reality or whether you look at what I’ve been warning is coming and is all around us for anyone now that wants to see, it is an absolute inversion of what I am demonized for being. Why? How can you demonize and silence someone who is saying we’re all one and we’re all expressions of each other and these different experiences called human are just experiences but we’re all ultimately an expression of each other.

40:41 David Icke: How can you demonize someone like that? You can’t. And how can you demonize someone as a Nazi when they’re actually warning that a global version of Nazi Germany is coming unless people wake up fast pretty much here now. You can’t. So what you do is you invert what they are and what they’re saying. And you know that the vast majority of people will never check. They’ll just listen to the BBC or the Daily Mail or whatever newspaper is in the Netherlands or elsewhere and they’ll just believe what they’re told.

41:28 David Icke: You know that and therefore you know that even though you’re inverting totally what someone is and what they’re saying, you know, the vast majority of people you communicate with won’t check and thus they’ll believe what you say and they will act upon what you’ve led them to believe. But it’s just an interesting point worth noting. Like I say, this is all psychological. So why do they go with the Holocaust denial? Very interesting. Certainly this is the way I see it. Anyway, anyone that looks at what happened in Nazi Germany to Jewish people, but also to other people, they’re often forgotten.

42:32 David Icke: Communists, the infirm, the mentally mentally challenged people. It triggers an emotional response if you got any heart that is of absolute revulsion. It’s an immediate revulsion. You see pictures of some of these scenes and you get an immediate emotional response of revulsion. The reason they target you as a Holocaust denier is because they want to take that emotional revulsion, that understandable reaction, and they want to associate you with it.

43:24 David Icke: So if you can dub someone a Holocaust denier, what you do is the revulsion that people feel for Nazi Germany suddenly gets attached to you and they start feeling revulsion for you. That’s the psychological game going on. And that’s why you get these people, you know, absolute screaming abuse at me in the Netherlands recently who have no idea what I’m actually saying, but they associate me with that. And this is why, Brian, what they’ve done if there’s a they’ve associated because it’s all word manipulation and psychological manipulation. They’ve associated the word denier with the Holocaust. Holocaust denier.

44:18 David Icke: Holocaust denial. So there’s a word association. Those two words are absolutely connected in the public mind. Holocaust denier. So now look at what they call people who challenge other aspects of this agenda. If you challenge the scientifically nonsensical human cause climate change hoax, you are a climate denier. When people were challenging the COVID story, they were COVID deniers.

45:04 David Icke: They became vaccine deniers or anti-vaxxers. And now we’ve got a new one, election denier. If you look at someone like the clearly senile Joe Biden who sat in his bunker throughout the election campaign, and I’m no Trump supporter. My god, are you kidding? But you look at him, he hardly left his bunker through the election campaign because they were trying to protect him from being exposed for fact that he’s completely lost it. And when he went out to speak, he was speaking to virtually no one. What they did was frame the shot so you only saw him. You didn’t see there was nobody there.

45:51 David Icke: But some people with phones who were there took pictures of what he was actually looking at and it was a massive massive autocue teleprompter screen he was reading off and there was nobody there. And yet that man is supposed to have got more votes in the presidential election than any president in American history. It’s a joke. But if you challenge that and say, “Well, hold on a minute, that doesn’t make any sense.” You are an election denier. And you know when you study this cult and how it manipulates people esoterically and through a cult hidden knowledge and how it uses words and our words are so important.

46:45 David Icke: There’s no way they’re using the word denier by accident. They’re doing it because of an it’s not even a conscious emotional response. It’s an unconscious response because most of the perception manipulation goes into the subconscious mind. Subliminal manipulation. Subliminal meaning below threshold, below the threshold of the conscious mind. And so they put so much in here subconsciously which then filters through to the conscious mind as a thought or a perception. And at that point, the people think it’s their own thought. It’s their own perception. It’s their own emotional response when actually it’s been put in at a subconscious level. And they’re doing this all the time.

47:35 David Icke: So that that’s why they use the Holocaust denier thing. No one is more unless they experienced it, more revolted by Nazi Germany than me, which is why I’ve spent the last 33 years warning that it was coming to everyone if we weren’t bloody careful. And we haven’t been, therefore it’s here and more obviously every day.

47:55 Brian Rose: Last time you were here, you spoke about Dutch farmers and I was watching this clip go around and around on Twitter being watched millions and millions of times as you talked about what was happening with the Dutch farmers and when I heard a couple weeks ago was what was happening with you being denied in the Netherlands. You know, it didn’t take a rocket scientist to see that there might be a parallel here. Can you speak on that and also sp speak about our current food and energy crisis which is terrifying the world? By the way, two years ago when we were locked down, that wasn’t terrifying people. But now it is.

48:36 David Icke: Right. Okay. So, if we go back, it must have been what? It must have been around the one maybe in April 2020 when we talked. I It could have even been the one before. I said that I’d been warning about something. I called the hunger game society and I have this phrase know the outcome and you’ll see the journey. If you don’t know what the outcome is planned to be then daily events appear random. They don’t appear connected at all. But if you know where we’re being taken, then suddenly that otherwise random events become a very clear series of stepping stones, what I call the totalitarian tiptoe, which is now actually the totalitarian sprint towards that outcome.

49:31 David Icke: So let’s look at the outcome. And like I say, I’ve been talking about this for a long long time. I was talking about it even before I called it the Hunger Games Society. It’s just that when those movies came out, the what they symbolized was absolutely the society that this cult is planning and it’s now known as the great reset. That’s what the great reset is. It’s the transformation of human society to this hunger game society. So what is that? If people could imagine a pyramid because it’s all pyramidal hierarchy. The whole system is based on that and compartmentalized pyramid hierarchy. So people lower down the pyramid who are implementing something that’s decided up here don’t even know there isn’t up there.

50:22 David Icke: They’re just doing what the level above them tells them to do without question. And so the Hunger Games society, if you imagine a pyramid, the top of the pyramid, tiny tiny few people, the inner core of this global cult. And if you go to the inner core of the inner core, you probably get them in a single room. At the bottom of the pyramid is the global population basically who are under the control of the few at the top on the basis of dependency. Dependency equals control. What you depend upon for the basics of surviving controls you.

51:17 David Icke: That’s what is being created. And in between the tiny few at the top, the cult inner circle and the global population is planned to be, and like I say, I’ve been saying this for decades, a police military state, eventually a fusion of the two. And that police military state which started to show itself during the COVID lockdowns and massively shows itself in China which I’d like to come to at some point. And the police military state is there to impose the will of the few on the population and to stop the population rebelling against the few. So then you ask the question, okay, how do you create that?

52:09 David Icke: Well, first of all, if you’re going to create dependency for the population upon the few, first of all, the few have got to control the basics of human survival. And in terms of the population, you have to destroy their ability to earn an independent income either through starting an independent business or working for an independent business because while they’re doing that, you can’t control them. So what you’ve got to do is to destroy the ability to run independent businesses independent of the cult and therefore destroy employment with those businesses.

52:57 David Icke: So now we can see as I said at the time what lockdown was really about. It was about first of all hauling the global economy below the waterline which we’re now seeing the consequences of more and more. It’s like flicking a domino and seeing all the others fall. That’s where it’s going. And you therefore create a situation where loads of small businesses disappear, loads of employment disappears. So that’s the start of it. But you want to continue that because you want to destroy them. So what do you do? Well, well, hold on a minute.

53:50 David Icke: What does every business depend upon? What does everybody depend upon? What does everything produced, shipped and transported depend upon? What does food production and food distribution depend upon? Energy. Energy. So if you can increase the price of energy, you increase the price of everything, which is what we’re seeing. Also during the lockdown era, enormous amounts of out of fresh air created money was poured into the economy by people like Rishi Sunak in Britain who was chancellor who’s now saying all this pain coming to sort out the mess that I created.

54:42 David Icke: And as a result that’s filtered through as you all know in your area of finance through as inflation massive inflation. Was always going to. It was always meant to because you’re seeking to destroy independent income, including pension income and its worth and value. Because you want to create a situation where the population of the world is in such a state of desperation and destitution that you control them through dependency. And so you had the lockdown that started it off. And then this is the real reason or one of the major reasons why they have played this scientifically insane human-caused climate change hoax.

55:48 David Icke: Basically, the question that people need to keep asking when they look at any situation or any explanation coming out of authority is who benefits from this situation or from me believing what authority is telling me to believe. And you’ll find invariably that who benefits is this cult and its agenda for global control. So, climate change, we’re all going to die. We’re not actually. Not from climate change. We’re not. But we have to believe we are. And what does that mean? Well, what we’ve got to do, cuz what happens is this. You see, we’ve got this carbon dioxide, which is the gas of life.

56:36 David Icke: Without carbon dioxide, we’d all be dead because there’d be no natural world. The natural world sucks carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere and it’s the natural world’s version of oxygen. And we have this wonderful symbiotic relationship with the natural world. We breathe in oxygen, we breathe out carbon dioxide, it takes in carbon dioxide. So what you do is you sell carbon dioxide the gas of life along with oxygen as a pollutant. Now carbon dioxide is an invisible gas.

57:21 David Icke: But what you do is you keep showing pictures across the global media of pollution and smoke pouring out of chimneys and you say carbon dioxide. So again, it’s all perceptual. You’re getting the population to perceive carbon dioxide which you can’t see with the pollution that they put before you that you can see. So carbon dioxide is now a pollutant. It’s not. It’s the gas of life. But then you say, well, where is this carbon coming from? It’s coming from fossil fuels. Okay. So if we’re going to stop this carbon that’s heating up the world, it’s not. Then we’ve got to get rid of fossil fuels.

58:13 David Icke: So what you do then is you start like Biden has done since he came to power. You shut down pipelines. You stop exploration for new fossil fuel sources on federal land. You manipulate the financial system to make it unfinancially possible to go on with fossil fuels. You change the law to target fossil fuels in every way you can. And you say what we’re going to do is we’re going to have renewables like solar power and wind power which I you know the solar power the wind power alone is incredibly environmentally destructive. And by the way, where do the vast majority of wind turbines come from? China. So now you’re starting to give control of the wind relationship with energy to China.

59:05 David Icke: And where did most of the solar panels come from? Oh, China. So you again you and this will be become relevant as we go along. You’re moving the benefits to China, but you are targeting fossil fuels. And what that means is, the price of energy goes up because that’s what happens when you go to so-called renewables. And by the way, we know, but we’re not telling them, is renewables are never in a trillion years going to replace the quantity of energy and the quality that fossil fuels did.

59:54 David Icke: So, what else can we do? So, we’ve started it. The price of energy is going up. That’s good. I know will trigger a proxy war between Russia and China actually and the West. That’s what we’ll do. And what we’ll then do is because of the Russians, what we’re going to do is we’re going to have sanctions against Russia. We’re going to have sanctions against Russian natural gas. We’re going to have sanctions against Russian oil which the EU is about now to introduce and that’ll show them right. But Russia has massive markets for its energy in China and in India.

1:00:45 David Icke: So who is the biggest loser of the sanctions against Russia? The west. Because the idea of this cult is to dismantle the western economy and indeed dismantle western society as we know it. So now you have this proxy war going on through Ukraine. We care so much about the Ukrainian people and what’s going on that we never even talk about peace talks to stop it. We just send more and more weapons to put fuel on the fire because we want to keep it going because it suits our agenda. And what happens is not only the cost of energy goes up, but massively part of that is the supply of energy goes down.

1:01:36 David Icke: So now you’ve got a point where so many people in the northern hemisphere this winter, vast numbers of people are going to be making a choice between eating and keeping warm. They’re already making it. It’s extraordinary. It’s disgusting. Now what is that doing? It’s pulling people down into the lower levels of the hunger games society of total dependency. Then you think okay we want to control that which they’re dependent upon.

1:02:25 David Icke: So, we’re doing this with energy that’s putting the price up of everything and it’s making people unable to keep warm and all that’s good. That is what else do they need? Oh, food. Yes. Yes, they need food. What can we do about that? Oh, I know. What we’ll do is we’ll during lockdown, this is exactly what happened, is we’ll start to dismantle the global food chain. And what we’ll do because Are you there, Bill? Bill Gates. Yeah. Yeah. We want you to buy up loads of farmland in America. Okay. Where the food production land. Yeah. So now Bill Gates, Mr.

1:03:10 David Icke: COVID, Mr. COVID jab. And by the way, Mr. Human Caused climate change. All these things are being told we’re being told to believe by a man you wouldn’t trust to tell you the date in a calendar factory. And so now Bill Gates is the biggest owner of farmland in America. What else do we need to do? Who produces food? Oh, farmers do. So we got to target them. So what we’ll do, who’s the who’s the biggest producer of food, exporter of food in the world? Well, America. Yeah. Okay. Who’s the second by value? Well, it’s the Netherlands, right?

1:03:59 David Icke: We’ve got our guy in the Netherlands, haven’t we? Yeah. What’s his name? Rutte. Yeah, that’s him. Yeah, we’ve got a guy in Rutte. Yeah, Mark’s first name. Yeah, Mark Rutte. Yeah, he’s the prime minister. We always make sure he gets in because he does what we tell him. So now we have at a time where people are talking about food shortages, about the dismantling of the global food chain, we’re having Mark Rutte, who led the government that’s done what they have to me, targeting thousands of Dutch farmers to take their land, take over their land. And they’re doing it on the basis of the use of nitrogen.

1:04:48 David Icke: You know they have a nitrogen minister in the Netherlands and why are they doing that on the basis of nitrogen. Ah well that adds to climate change. So the climate change hoax like the COVID hoax just keeps on giving and then we come which started to take us eastwards. The global cult, this global network of secret societies with an interlocking mission control directing the whole thing.

1:05:33 David Icke: It doesn’t have borders, country borders. He wants to get rid of country borders. That’s part of the global fascist dictatorship. They want to dismantle countries so that how they operate becomes how the world looks. But at the moment, how they operate is not how the world looks because the world looks as if it’s series of different countries with borders. It’s why they’re taking borders down. It’s why George Soros has an organization called the Open Society Foundations. That’s the Open Border Foundations in other words. So there are no borders. So the Chinese government is a cult government. The American government is a cult government. The British government is a cult government. The French government is cult government. And the rest is for public consumption.

1:06:27 David Icke: So what they did, and this is becoming so more obvious now, I’ve been saying it for so long, is they developed China as the blueprint for this global fascist state. So the Mao revolution was a cult revolution and it was for this reason to create a closed society for a very very long time and still in many ways today a closed society within which a system not least based on technology and eventually artificial intelligence. A system of mass control in real time and mass surveillance could be incubated and perfected which eventually was planned once it was as they wanted it to be played out across the world and become the global system.

1:07:30 David Icke: So what has happened I’ve been saying this for decades. If you want to see what’s planned for the west tomorrow look at China today. And so what you have now in China, and this was happening even before the COVID hoax was played out of China, they have this QR code which is now what since the COVID situation become ubiquitous in the west, not an accident. You have this QR code which completely controls people’s lives. In China, if you if your box on the QR code is not ticked in any situation, you can’t do that activity or you can’t go to that location. And it’s reached the point now where currently there’s something like 400 million Chinese under house arrest.

1:08:18 David Icke: So kicked off all these protests. Under the guise the excuse of so-called zero COVID because it’s nothing to do with bloody COVID and it’s nothing to do with health. Zero COVID means they can say our goal is for no one to have COVID. And by the way, as we talked about and I was explaining in April 2020 in this very studio, they get their cases from something called the PCR test, which as the creator Kary Mullis said cannot test if you’re sick.

1:09:04 David Icke: So he said in relation to HIV, the alleged HIV virus, “What are you using the PCR test to test for the HIV virus for?” Cuz the PCR test can’t do that. It’s not made for that. But they’re using it because other genetic material will ping positive in many people in the PCR test. And they call it a case. So they’re saying cases are going up. Easiest thing to manipulate in the world through the PCR test. In China, we’ve got a lockdown. And what it is, it’s about control. You have 25 million people in Shanghai under house arrest. And what’s kicked off these protests in the last week or so was that there was a fire in a residential block and at least 10 people died, including one child. At least one child cuz they couldn’t get out cuz they were literally locked in by the authorities.

1:10:00 David Icke: Sealed their doors, right? Sealed their doors, put spikes on the gates and everything. And that’s what kicked off the protest. And so if you want to see what’s planned for the West tomorrow, look at China today. And this is where it’s planned to go. So you there was a an amazing piece of footage I saw out of China. Someone to talk on a phone maybe about three weeks ago where there’s this big line of cars waiting to go through this checkpoint or something just like a massive traffic jam and this drone comes over with a QR code on it and it’s finding out who’s got the code and who hasn’t.

1:10:55 David Icke: So, as someone explained, a Chinese guy explained, in a video that I used this week, even in 2017, the mass surveillance, technology surveillance, AI surveillance in China now is at such a level, even in 2017, that if you went jaywalking in China, they could pick up who you were. And not only that, take out of your bank account the fine for jaywalking. And this is the world we’re going into. And this is why they want digital currencies. This is why they want the whole world digital because then they can basically take out of your bank account whenever they choose.

1:11:46 David Icke: And we’ve just had now this agreement at the G20. Of course, they all agreed because they wouldn’t dare not to of moving to this so-called vaccine passport and these digital currencies which suddenly everyone like the drag queens has had the same idea. Oh yeah, we’ll go digital. I have a digital currency. And it was 1992 that I wrote in a book called The Robots Rebellion. That 1992 that the plan was is to get rid of all cash and have a single world currency which would not be cash.

1:12:32 David Icke: That’s exactly where it’s gone. And so what happened during the COVID era the lockdown and what are these vaccine passports working on QR codes and the idea and it’s already coming in you’ve got credit card companies Mastercard is one of them who is producing cards which as you use them through the month are totting up your alleged carbon footprint. And once you get to a certain point of limit of carbon footprint, as they allege they’ve worked it out, you can’t use the card anymore.

1:13:19 David Icke: And what is planned for this so-called vaccine passport, which is designed to be far more than just vaccines, though certainly that. And what’s happening in China is that you have a carbon limit and beyond that you can’t buy anything anymore. And we’re moving along the road towards carbon lockdowns, climate change lockdowns, where they say we’ve got to lock down because the carbon limit has has been has been passed, etc. So the lockdowns of COVID are a precursor to lockdowns not just for other pandemics but lockdowns for climate change.

1:14:06 David Icke: So what you’re looking at is they might lock us down in the future because we’re putting out too much carbon. Oh yeah. City shuts down, you shut down individually and we’re already conditioned to the lockdown. Now they have a different trigger. Yeah. But it was all it was actually pointed out during lockdown by these characters. Oh, look. A lot less carbon’s being created, you know. And by the way, a study’s just come out that shows that the earth has got 14% greener in terms of vegetation in the last 30 years. Now, why would that be? Well, let’s answer it with another question.

1:14:56 David Icke: Why do growers in green houses put extra carbon dioxide into the greenhouse? Because it makes the plants grow bigger, stronger, and in greater abundance. So in this period, this industrial period, and this is not denied, the earth has got greener. More food has been able to be produced. And the lower the carbon dioxide, the less the natural world flourishes. So, you’ve got China as the blueprint. So, let’s look at this. What has been happening for decades, decades and decades is that western corporations have been outsourcing their production even of basic things like antibiotics is dominated in terms of production in China, right?

1:15:52 David Icke: They’ve been outsourcing it to China. So more and more of the global supply chain of all these different goods has been handed to China. And so what have they done? They’ve given control of to China not in only increasingly of energy production through wind turbines and solar panels which are very limited in terms of energy production anyway while they’re destroying fossil fuel production. But they’ve given the control of the supply chain of basic things to China and the supply chain has started to break up. And if you look because one of the things that I’ve realized over the years is nothing happens for one reason.

1:16:41 David Icke: There’s always multiple reasons. So you’ve got the developing extremes of control in China which are planned eventually to come westward that we’re seeing now. But locking down hundreds of millions of people means you throw your production into disarray compared with what it was before. So you give a smack again to the supply chain of goods because you’ve given China so much control of global production.

1:17:27 David Icke: And I said decades ago that the plan was eventually to bring the West into a global war with the East, Russia and China predominantly. And we’re actually seeing that already because you’ve got the West now that is openly supporting, funding, and arming Ukraine against Russia. Not to beat about the bush, the West is at war with Russia through Ukraine. Hello. But then you’ve got Russia that’s being supported by China, not at least economically in terms of buying its its energy, but also in other ways.

1:18:21 David Icke: And so China’s supporting Russia, the West is supporting Ukraine. You’re seeing the pieces being moved into place for the very conflict that I’ve been talking about all these decades that was planned between the West and Russia. China a conflict which is designed to be won by China. Why? Because China is the blueprint for the global cult. What is Klaus Schwab’s a frontman for the cult and the World Economic Forum? What is their great reset?

1:19:07 David Icke: China is the great reset. That’s what’s coming. And so you look at how China has moved in on Africa, massively influential in Africa. It’s massively influential now in South America. And if this convicted crook carries on and takes the disputed election in Brazil, then they’ll have massive influence over Brazil as well. Which is of course a major major economic power in the major economic power in South America. So you’re seeing it happen and it’s when you’ve grown up in western society I mean I have since 1952 it’s easy to fall for the illusion that what is will always be.

1:20:08 David Icke: Well, I think the COVID lockdown period woke I know it did locked woke a lot of people up to the fact that what you’ve become used to and what you think is how things are can change in an instant. And the scale of the change that is coming if we allow it is beyond the imagination of most people where they will not be able to do anything. No action, no traveling, no going to a location unless the QR code is saying that they can do it.

1:21:00 David Icke: And look at what happened during the COVID lockdowns. You’re using QR codes to get into restaurants. QR codes showing you were fake vaccinated cuz it’s not really a vaccine. To go to sporting events or to other venues. Th this was just a taster for what was planned to come and a test to see how compliant the population would be in those circumstances. And the fact that people like Bill Gates are involved in pushing climate change and pushing the jab and pushing COVID.

1:21:49 David Icke: And Klaus Schwab at the World Economic Forum, another gopher for the cult has said that the COVID quote pandemic was an opportunity, a window that could be used to transform the world. Well, this is what they were talking about and are talking about. We better wake up to it fast because it’s getting faster the more power they get at the center.

1:22:14 Brian Rose: You mentioned a few politicians and I want to get your thoughts on Rishi Sunak here who’s running the UK now and the very short Truss government as well as what’s happening in America with Trump announcing and Ron DeSantis. But before we get to that, Elon Musk has recently taken over Twitter to make it the bastion of free speech in his mind. I see. All right. And I want to get your thoughts here because you’re he might even give you your account back. What do you make of Elon Musk taking over Twitter and from you know the outside looking in it looks like he’s giving back a lot of free speech elements that were taken away by the Googles and Facebooks.

1:22:53 David Icke: Well by their actions shall you know them. First of all my son Gareth appealed soon as he took over just to test it out. Appealed to have my account restored which was taken down in the spring of 2020 because when everything was taken I told the truth about co that’s when your Facebook was taken out the whole anyway and someone said to him that’s might take a little while so why don’t you just start a new account so he did and apparently he put just Hello on it and it got 20,000 responses.

1:23:39 David Icke: So he tells me and it lasted about 12 hours I think and Twitter took it down and then eventually it was about a week ago now some Twitter responded to the application to have my original account restored and they said no. Musk was asked on Twitter if he would restore Alex Jones and he said no. Now there’s something going on here and you know it’s very important when you’re looking at the world not to judge everything in the moment because you can get scammed that way. You sit back and you see how it plays out.

1:24:30 David Icke: But there’s certain things these are these are questions that I have about Elon Musk. Let’s look again know the outcome and you’ll see the journey. One element of the cult agenda is to get rid of petrol and diesel cars. The not least through the manipulation of the price of energy, but they’re actually doing it by law now and bring in electric vehicles. Now, two things to that. One, well, three things to that. One, electric vehicles are environmental disasters in terms of their batteries and everything and where the materials come from and what people in Africa suffer, even little kids, mining for the stuff.

1:25:27 David Icke: And two, if you’re going to have computer controlled cars, they can’t be petrol or diesel. They’ve got to be electric. And the reason you want autonomous driverless vehicles run by a computer is because the computer then decides where you can go and where you can’t. If the computer in the car is programmed that you can’t go here and you can’t go there, that car will not take you there. So, it’s all about control. And by the way, what they’re doing in Britain for people around the world is they’re what we have on our motorways, the American version of freeways are or have been up to this point is the running lanes where people travel really fast.

1:26:22 David Icke: And on the left hand side you have the emergency lane or what’s known in Britain as the hard shoulder. And if you break down in the running lanes, you get out of the running lanes so you’re not smacked from behind and you get onto the hard shoulder. What they’re doing is creating something called smart motorways, which are stupid. But there’s method in the madness. They are taking out the emergency lane and making it a running lane. And quite a lot of people already have died because they’ve broken down in the running lane that was the hard shoulder and they’ve been hit behind by a truck or something. So why are they doing it? It’s madness. It’s dangerous. Yes, it is. But what they’re doing is they’re preparing the motorway system for autonomous cars. That’s what it’s about.

1:27:13 David Icke: And the third point about electric vehicles is they’re not meant to replace all the diesel and petrol vehicles cuz they’re too bloody expensive for a start. Most people can’t afford them. The idea is you get rid of petrol and diesel vehicles and you get people out of car ownership. And that’s great because it saves the world from climate change and that nasty gas of life, carbon dioxide. And so you limit their ability to move and travel. This is a major element of the great reset. Now going back to Musk, who is one of the predominant people driving the driverless car electric vehicle agenda?

1:28:06 David Icke: Elon Musk. Hm. What else is he doing? Oh, yeah. The plan is to, and it’s already happening, to create what I called decades ago a technologically generated electromagnetic field that encompasses the earth. And they call that now the smart grid. And the idea is to create a what they call what these insiders call when they’re selling it the cloud where every inch of the planet is covered by this technologically generated electromagnetic field.

1:28:55 David Icke: We could go further with that and how they are seeking to connect humans in the human brain to that field. So it becomes a technologically generated sub-reality. So okay, how do you hit every inch of the planet with this electromagnetic field of 5G and 6G and 7G to come? Well, you can’t do it with towers. You can do it in communities with towers. You can’t cover every inch of the planet with towers. Well, you got to do it from space. So, what they’re doing is putting thousands and thousands. They’ve already got permission for tens of thousands, though permission is not a problem because the cult owns the regulatory agencies of low orbit satellites firing 5G and 6G, 7G to come at the at the at the Earth.

1:29:48 David Icke: So that people, this is the excuse, people in the Sahara Desert, for instance, can get access to CNN and Google, right? But it’s not for that at all. It’s to create this electromagnetic technologically generated sub-reality that’s meant to impact upon our minds and perceptions. So, who is leading the rush to put tens of thousands of low orbit satellites to fire this stuff at the earth and every inch of the earth?

1:30:38 David Icke: Elon Musk. Then Musk comes out few years ago now and said that AI could be the end of humanity. And I’ve been pointing that out for a very very long time, long before he did. But that’s the idea that humanity as we know it is no more. And so what you going to do, Mr. Ask about AI being connected to the human brain which you say could be the end of humanity or certainly as we know it. Well, what I’m going to do, says Elon Musk, is I’m going to start a company called Neuralink.

1:31:27 David Icke: And I’m going to connect the human brain to computers. And he’s just announced this week that he’s confident that very soon they’re going to be able to start human trials. So then there’s another agenda which I’ve been writing about for a long time which is to force people into micro homes. These are going up all over the world. That are very very small, very tiny. And who’s producing micro homes now? Oh, Tesla. Elon Musk. So when I look at Elon Musk, I look at actions, not words, and I see that he in his companies he fronts up, SpaceX, the satellites, Tesla, the cars and the homes and Neuralink, he is ticking and pushing and promoting and driving major major elements of this cult agenda that I’ve been exposing for decades.

1:32:38 David Icke: So then you have this agenda to censor everybody who’s challenging the narrative. So we see this with Google, Google own YouTube, Facebook, all these companies. And we saw it with Twitter. Twitter was censoring people like crazy cuz Twitter was a cult company just like Facebook is. Look at the background of Facebook and Google and see who was involved. People like DARPA, the technological development arm of the Pentagon and CIA through IQT, or In-Q-Tel, their technological development arm for surveillance technology, the CIA.

1:33:35 David Icke: So, the cult’s got Twitter and it’s doing exactly what it wants people Twitter to do, which is to censor. And then along comes free speech absolutist. You’re not Elon Musk to buy Twitter. Then he decides after announcing it that well actually there’s too many bots or all this stuff so I’m not buying it. Twitter owned by the cult that he’s censoring like crazy on behalf of the cult then takes Musk to court to force him to buy it.

1:34:21 David Icke: And he comes in, he who’s ticking every other box of the cult’s agenda with his companies comes in and takes it over. Why would the cult sell Twitter to Musk if Musk really is about free speech? And what I would say to people is take a breath and watch how this plays out. Because one of the possible scenarios, I’ll just give it as a possible scenario, is that he starts apparently giving free speech to some people that were banned, not me, it seems, or Alex Jones and people like that. And then the regulators kick in and like the EU is already saying it and justifying new draconian laws to censor free speech on the internet using the excuse of we’ve got to stop Twitter allowing people to say what they think at least up to a point.

1:35:27 David Icke: And like I say, after 33 years of experience of doing this, the unless you absolutely know because of what you’ve researched before that something like this, hold your fire and just see where it goes. And I’ll be very interested where this goes because Twitter taken over by Musk to give people free speech given his background and the Twitter’s background before of ownership by the cult makes no sense whatsoever on the basis of that’s what he’s going to do for that reason.

1:36:12 David Icke: And so watch this space.

1:36:12 Brian Rose: I would say I think he’s going to turn it into a digital payment system. With digital currencies. He’s got a background in that. And speaking of that, I wanted to get your thoughts on the big story in the cryptocurrency space over the last couple weeks, which is this 30-year-old MIT grad, Sam Bankman-Fried, bankrupting his company FTX, which was worth 40 billion at one point, down to zero. And this strange response where he’s being almost promoted by the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal. And people maybe even in government and yet at the same time seems to have single-handedly destroyed the reputation of crypto. Crypto itself didn’t fail, but obviously the manipulation of those assets did fail.

1:37:00 Brian Rose: What do you see happening here?

1:37:04 David Icke: Well, the reason I’ve never had anything to do with crypto is because I could see that the plan was in this great reset that became known as a great reset to introduce a digital currency controlled by the system so that they can, like I said earlier, they can just take what they want. If you’re fined, you can’t challenge it. It’s just taken from your bank account like they do in China. That’s the whole point. And therefore, if crypto was genuine, they were going to destroy it because it would get in their way.

1:37:52 David Icke: And what you what you look at the red flags are what the regulatory agencies are doing in response to a situation. And if they jump on someone, then they want to destroy them. But if they don’t, then that someone is doing something they want to happen. And so you’ve got this guy, what’s his name? Gary Gensler. Yeah. The head of the securities commission in America who also ran Hillary Clinton’s campaign. Yeah. You know, and so he’s been on very friendly terms with Bankman-Fried. And then you got the New York Times, which is co-owned to its fingertips, DNA, always has been. That’s eulogizing a guy that’s just cost enormous amounts of people enormous amounts of money.

1:38:52 David Icke: Then you look at the fact that money that was given to Ukraine through this guy comes back to the Democratic Party in America and funded many people in the U midterm elections. And it makes no sense that someone who’s done all that and been such a disaster is not being jumped upon by the system. But of course, one of the phrase I came up with back in the ’90s, problem, reaction, solution. Create the problem.

1:39:38 David Icke: Get the public to say do something about the problem which you’ve created and then openly offer the solutions to the problem you have created which is to advance your agenda in whatever area that the problem relates to. So already now they’re talking about new laws and regulations to target crypto as a result of Bankman-Fried’s actions. And you know the guy has cult puppet written all over him stamped on his forehead. Whether he knows that is another thing, but it he’s done what they wanted to happen to let them justify what they want to do. And you know, the idea is that this digital currency will have no rival whatsoever.

1:40:34 David Icke: There’ll be one world digital currency. Like I say, I said this in a book in 1992 93, Robots Rebellion. And there will be no other rival to it, no other possibility. So every single transaction that you make will be registered and known in real time by the system. And again, totalitarian tiptoe. You start with cash, then you move to credit cards. Oh, it’s so it’s more easier to do and it’s simpler to do and it’s more convenient and okay, you have credit cards, right?

1:41:22 David Icke: But cash has got to remain. But you don’t want cash to remain. You want cash to disappear. So, it starts to disappear. They start to take out branches of banks all over the world. This is happening. So you can’t go to the bank and deal in cash. They’re taking out ATMs all over the world so you can’t get cash. It’s a war on cash. Now what happened cuz COVID just keeps on giving. When it started out it was announced through the World Health Organization if you remember very early on you could get COVID from money, right? So suddenly in next to no time, I’m asking for a cup of coffee on a little kiosk on the station and they’re telling me I can only pay by card cuz you can get you can get COVID from for money.

1:42:16 David Icke: And all that was to and it’s massively happened so much faster as a result is to get rid of the use of cash. I was in a supermarket once on the Isle of Wight, Brian, and I wanted to pay cash, and so the guy lifts this little kind of receptacle thing with a handle on it, the checkout guy, and he puts he says, “Put your money in there.” Right? I said, “Well, what’s that all about?” I knew what it was all about, but I What’s all that about? Oh, it’s COVID. You get you get you can get it off off cash, right? And there were some members of staff there behind him. And I said, “So you can get COVID off money, right?” Oh, yeah. Like paper money.

1:43:07 David Icke: Yeah. So why are you selling newspapers? Right. Silence. And you notice how the newspapers emphasized at that time, I was watching it very closely. You can get COVID from money, but you can’t get it from newspapers. Well, can you explain why that is? No, no, no. I’m not going to explain why. I’m just telling you cuz we want to get rid of cash because our masters want to get rid of cash. But, we don’t want you to stop buying the newspaper, right? It’s insane. The world’s insane. It’s a mad house. And once you realize it’s a mad house, it all makes sense. It’s when you think it’s you’re trying to work out why things are happening and why things have some level of sense about them. That’s when you get your nook cooked.

1:43:52 David Icke: When you realize it’s a mad house run by lunatics and psychopaths, then everything falls into place and you can see what’s going on.

1:44:00 Brian Rose: I want to get to politics, but I’ve got to throw a wild card in here and ask you, what do you think of Kanye West and everything that we’re seeing come out of him?

1:44:14 David Icke: Well, I look at what he’s saying and what he’s doing. Some things I will agree with, some things I won’t. And what concerns me is the way he acts. I understand why he wants to be different and all that stuff, but he doesn’t do his credibility a lot of good with some of the things he does. I mean, just come out and say it, mate. I mean, I watched an interview with him with Tucker Carlson on the Carlson show in America, maybe about three weeks ago, four weeks ago, and he talked a lot of really good sense, calmly, openly, and all that stuff.

1:45:11 David Icke: But, you know, some of the some of the things that he does and the way he acts do his credibility no good. And they do the credibility of getting the information out there no good really because they start to divert attention into into into areas and into things that that that that are not beneficial, shall we say, for the credibility of what we’re trying to get across. Now, you know, if you if you come out and you support it with evidence, I don’t care what you’re saying. If you support it with evidence, go for it. But, when you’re I don’t know.

1:46:03 David Icke: I watched him on the Alex Jones show the other day and he had his face covered with some black mask or something and it’s like take your mask off Kanye and just tell us what you think calmly and then we’ll make our mind up what we believe and what we accept and what we don’t. But I don’t think he does himself favors sometimes and you know cuz he does have some interesting things to say.

1:46:26 Brian Rose: It’s a strange world right now. David, tell me about politics because we had the Truss show here for a few weeks. Now it’s Rishi Sunak and also in America. We’ve got election coming up in two years with two Republicans that are going to try to kill each other on the way to that election. What do you see in both situations?

1:46:56 David Icke: Well, as I said about Trump before he got elected in 2016, he’s being brought in whether he knows it or not, to divide America. Because there is a guy called Alinsky who is it kind of was followed by people like Obama and Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi and he wrote a book called Rules for Radicals and it was how you take a democratic society basically and turn it into a communist one. And one of the things that he pointed out is that you don’t target faceless corporations.

1:47:44 David Icke: You pick up pick out one guy and you target him. You blame him or her. This case him for everything cuz it’s like the Nazis said, keep your propaganda simple. Don’t make it complicated. Keep your propaganda simple. It’s like the propaganda against me in the Netherlands. He’s an anti-semite. He’s a Holocaust denier. End of story. Evidence? No, not necessary. Just keep saying it. And so Trump came in and basically America was very quickly divided because you had the Trump supporters and then you had people who were vehemently anti-Trump and you created this divide in America. And what they will be planning to do if Trump goes the distance into the into the Republican nomination period is they’ll seek to do the same.

1:48:40 David Icke: They’ll be targeting him as far-right or anti-semitic. It’s the last thing he is by the way. And they’ll go down that road. And then you have DeSantis. Now, DeSantis, I don’t know a lot about as a as a person and his background, and I’ll be very interested to see what that is. All I can do looking on is to look at what he’s done in Florida and he has done it whereas Trump has talked about it. And let’s not forget Trump had four years in the White House.

1:49:25 David Icke: So he pushed back on lockdown rules and segregation in Florida to the point where it was a much more open society than much of the rest of America. He’s pushed back through laws of sexualizing children in schools, which is massively part of this agenda. It’s why they’re bringing the drag queens out. To confuse gender in the young. What better way to confuse gender to have a bloke with a beard wearing a dress? I have no problem with drag queens, by the way. All the best. Do what you like so long as you don’t impose on anybody else. But that’s what’s happening. It’s been they’re being used to confuse gender in the young for a much longer term agenda that I’ve written about in the books for years.

1:50:18 David Icke: And he’s also through law in Florida pushed back on the castration and mutilation of children children in the name of transgender surgery. So I look at and you know he’s challenged a lot of things literally challenged them not just talked about it. So on that basis, you know, my jury’s out on him because I don’t know his background and all that yet, but certainly on the face of what he’s done in Florida, he’s done it while Trump’s talked about it. And as for as for Biden, well, see, this is the thing about what’s going on at the moment, it’s all perceptual.

1:51:10 David Icke: It’s all about control of perception because from perception comes behavior. You want to control behavior, control perception. So this is why we get our perceptions from information we receive. This is why they want to control the information because they control the perception and they control the behavior. That’s the sequence. And one of the things they are putting before us now more than ever before that done it before of course but more than ever before is complete morons in positions of political power. And this does two things. First of all, people lose respect for their country and they want people to lose respect for their country because they want an end to countries. They want a global monoculture.

1:51:55 David Icke: No countries as we know them and no nations as we know them. That’s all part of the longer process of the great reset. But they also want to say to you because what they’ve done now is they’ve gone from hiding it because they can’t hide it. They’re getting so close to their end goal they have to break the surface. Now they’ve gone from hiding it to saying, “Look, we control everything. We can put this senile man in the White House as president of the United States. We can do that. Look, we can put morons in power in New Zealand with Ardern, in Canada with Trudeau and so on because we have the power.

1:52:44 David Icke: We can put anyone in office that we like. That’s all part of breaking breaking the spirit of the population to the point where they say, “Well, there’s nothing we can do. They’ve got so much power.” And so I mean Biden’s apparently saying he’s going to run again. Well, it’ be a quick walk anyway. What will happen with that given his senile nature, I don’t know. But by the way, there’s a guy called Fetterman. You know about him. John Fetterman. John Fetterman, I think it was John Fetterman, that’s his name. He had a stroke which means that he can’t speak properly and he’s been doing interviews with reporters via a computer.

1:53:39 David Icke: So when they ask their question, it comes up on a computer and he can read it so that he can understand it. And he was put up for the Democrats and won. How the heck is he going to function on Capitol Hill when he can’t he’s just not got the faculties. He can’t hold a proper conversation. He can’t talk and he can’t understand what much of what people are saying to him. But he got elected to Capitol Hill and it’s and so much money was put in and support Obama turned up.

1:54:24 David Icke: They all turned up to support him. Why would they do that? Cuz it’s again part of this process. We can put anyone in political office we choose. So don’t take us on waste of time. We control everything. And the reason they want us to believe that is because they don’t. It’s because a handful of people relatively cannot control 8 billion if 8 billion won’t have it. So, they’ve got to get us to perceptually believe they have unbreakable power when they don’t.

1:55:16 David Icke: And one of the things that I’ve been getting across over and over again and was going to say in the Netherlands in that speech is they don’t have the power. They just want you to believe they do so that you will not challenge them. And this is one of the things that I say that they absolutely want to silence because I know they have no power. Okay, look what’s happening in China now. 25 million people locked down in Shanghai. 400 million I think they the last figure around the country. China has a population of 1.5 billion.

1:56:05 David Icke: Take the number of people in the Chinese Communist Party and this psychopath Xi Jinping, take their law enforcement and take it away from 1.5 billion. It hardly touches the sides. So if a significant chunk of the 1.5 billion refused to cooperate with the system that went out on the streets and said we’re going about our lives, we’re not going to be locked down in our homes anymore. It would be unenforceable.

1:56:55 David Icke: I don’t care how many QR codes you bloody have. It’s unenforceable. There’s too many people. Take a third. Say 500 million said we’re not having it in China. Over. Gone. Kaput. Finished. How many How many would it take of the 8 billion to make this cult’s imposition unenforceable? I mean this cult compared with the global population is so small in number in terms of people in full knowledge of what they’re doing and what the plan is that they have to recruit from the target population for its government administrators and its law enforcement.

1:57:44 David Icke: So, law enforcement, like the journalists I mentioned earlier, excuse for journalists, they’re getting up every morning. Are you listening? Police officers and military around the world. They’re getting up every morning, seeing their children off to school, going to work, enforcing on the target population which they come from. What this small group at the center of the cult wants them to do and wants them to impose and then they go home at the end of the day and see their children the very children and grandchildren that their actions every day see COVID lockdown see what’s happening in China now is imposing in terms of fascism for the rest of their life on their own children and grandchildren.

1:58:49 David Icke: And the government administrators in the local councils and the governments that are administering and forcing upon the population or trying to what the ultimately the cult is dictating via governments. And they have kids and grandkids and they are working every day to ensure that their kids and grandkids are going to live the rest of their lives in a level of technologically generated AI imposed fascism that is beyond anything the Nazis could even think of. And so if you break it down, you take away the journalists that are perceptually programming the people because they’re perceptually programmed themselves.

1:59:46 David Icke: You take away who are from overwhelmingly from the target population. You take away the law enforcement which are from the target population. You take away the government administrators that are overwhelmingly from the target population. How many of these buggers is left? And yet their agenda is being imposed on billions. Why? Cuz the bloody billions are letting it happen. And you know I’ve said this Brian many times this cult don’t worry me cuz ultimately it has no power.

2:00:31 David Icke: The power it accrues is the power it gets from the people in the form of acquiescence. In the form of belief in its power. The population hand over their power to it which is the only power it ever has. Acquiescence that’s the power. So for that reason, the cult worries me less than the population cuz you know there’s two types of people that have two mentalities that have created and allowed to manifest every tyranny in history. I don’t care if it’s Chinese communism or whether it’s Nazi fascism, whatever.

2:01:22 David Icke: One group are the unquestioning people who take what they’re told by authority and unquestioningly believe it and then act upon what they have unquestioningly believed. They are a piece of cake because if authority says it, they believe it and they do it. The equivalent is it was on the BBC. It must be true. It probably wasn’t then. And then you have this other group that doesn’t want to acquiesce like the first group does without question, but it’s terrified of not acquiescing because it says, “What are the consequences of for me of not doing what I’m told?”

2:02:20 David Icke: Those two mentalities have been responsible for every tyranny in history because fascism is never brought in by fascists. There’s never enough of them. Fascism comes in by the acquiescence of the people to fascism either through doing what they’re told without question or doing what they’re told because they fear not doing so. Which leaves group three which has ended every tyranny in history. And that’s the group that can see it. They can see they’re being lied to. They can see why they’re being lied to. And what the endgame is and they will not cooperate with it.

2:03:08 David Icke: They say I would rather die than accept this imposition on my life. And they are the people the mentality that are going to end this tyranny. If anyone is going to end it, the only people who are going to end it are those people with that mentality. And you know, one of the things I suggest we’ve got to do because we’ve reached that stage of this now is we’ve got to stop thinking about consequences.

2:03:58 David Icke: We’ve got to do what we know to be right and the consequences will take care of themselves. Because once you start thinking if I do what I know to be right, what is what we know to be right? Not cooperating with tyranny. So the tyranny ceases to be. If we look at consequences for doing that, we’ll always find a list long enough to say, well, I’d like to do what I know to be right, but not with those consequences. And the thing that I’m trying to get across and I’ve been trying to get across for so long, Brian, is that if you think the consequences of standing up to this now and ceasing to cooperate with it are bad, then just stick around a bit longer and you’ll see what the consequences are, not just for you, but for your kids and grandkids of not standing up to it now and not ceasing to cooperate with it.

2:05:10 David Icke: Because where this is going is unprecedented in known human history. Let me paint a picture. This is the endgame, the end goal. You have a technologically generated cloud, not least coming from space. Thank you, Elon. Nice one. And think of a Wi-Fi field. And that Wi-Fi field is information. You should be connected to expanded levels of consciousness. But the idea is you are disconnected from that by being connected to this cloud.

2:06:03 David Icke: And what you do is you tell people that there’s a deadly virus and the only way to stop it and you should protect yourself from it is to take a fake vaccine which is not actually a vaccine by any previous criteria. And you put in to those people genetic synthetic genetic material mRNA and nanotechnology which is self-replicating. You can see it. I mean just look at some of the blown up images of blood of vaccinated people and see how these technological systems are building themselves because what you want to do is you want to connect the body.

2:06:51 David Icke: See, people say you’re going to be connected to AI with a microchip and they think these rice-like microchips that lots of people like in Sweden thousands of people have had in their wrist so they can open doors and stuff, you know, god helpers. But that’s not that’s in many ways that’s a diversion. That’s what a microchip is. Look, no, no. The real microchips are nano that can be injected with a with a fake vaccine or a vaccine. And so these connect you to this cloud. And when people like Ray Kurzweil at the futurist at Google, a Google executive says that by 2030 will be connecting the human brain to artificial intelligence.

2:07:40 David Icke: And in his words, not mine, once that connection is made, artificial intelligence will do more and more of human thinking until human thinking as we know it is negligible. That’s what he said. This is how they plan to do it. So imagine, look your children in the eye and your grandkids and imagine them living in a world in which their thoughts and perceptions are coming from AI. Their natural perceptions are gone. No need at that point to manipulate information to manipulate perception. Your perceptions are coming direct by AI. And not only that, you’ll be part of a hive mind because AI will be centrally controlled.

2:08:31 David Icke: Your body will be very different. It will be a much more synthetic body, which is why they’re putting synthetic genetic material in with these jabs. And this is why they want to expand mRNA vaccines across the whole of the vaccine spectrum, get more and more of it in there. And this is why given that this new human 2.0 I’ll call it as opposed to human 1.0 it’s not going to be able to procreate. Human 2.0 is planned not to be able to procreate. Go back to Aldous Huxley in 1932 in Brave New World. He was describing this very society.

2:09:22 David Icke: There are reasons why that was possible as I talk about in the books. And he was talking about world state hatcheries. Notice he’s talking in 1932 about a world state. This is this world government I’m talking about. And the species is procreated both in Brave New World and in the plan. No coincidence technologically. And it’s procreated or created in genetic castes where your worker caste has a genetic potentiality. That means it can only do it can only basically be a slave. And then the higher castes have a much more advanced genetics and they’re the they’re the like bees.

2:10:15 David Icke: Yeah, exactly. They are the rulers, right? This is this is what is planned. And if people think, well, that’s crazy and that’s far out. Well, they said that about what I said about what’s happening now decades ago. This is the plan. And so, a few dots then start to get connected. First of all, you’ve got the plan for the no gender human. So, how do you prepare people for the no gender human, especially the young who are going to be the adults when this is supposed to be coming in? Well, how about having drag queens going to schools with beards wearing dresses and totally and utterly confuse from the earliest age of little kids their perception of gender?

2:11:07 David Icke: How about you go not from 2 point 2 + 2 = 4 to 2 + 2 = 5, but to 2 + 2 = 4,650 million, which is what we’re being asked to believe now in terms of reality. That somehow a man with a dick can just decide he’s a woman and that’s it. You have got to treat him as a woman or you’ve got to talk to a single individual in terms of them and they I’m sorry that is an assault on the English language. I will not have it. Thank you. And if you don’t like that, we’ll do the other thing. That’s just as good. What we’re seeing is on the road to the fusion of gender, not the transgender, transgender activists, not the transgender human, the no-gender human.

2:12:03 David Icke: You’re just a stepping stone. Wake up. And so you confuse gender on the way to fusing gender. On the other side, you have to get rid of human 1.0. So what’s happening now? You got to get rid of human 1.0. What is happening now is sperm counts are absolutely catastrophically plummeting. What how they’ve fallen not just in the west but around the world in the last 50 years is shocking unbelievable to the point where if this goes on there will be no procreation they’re doing it through chemicals they’re doing it through things like what it’s called BPA that you get in plastics and stuff what the stuff they put into till receipts why they put in till receipts cuz everyone No one touches them.

2:13:13 David Icke: And also radiation. You see people, they put their laptops on their desk and they’re working like that for ages. That’s technologically generated radiation going straight into the sperm. What is the sperm ultimately? It’s electromagnetic field. Change the electromagnetic field, change the nature of the sperm. And then there’s the smartphone in the pocket. Put it in the pocket. There you go. Right. So, what’s that doing to your sperm? Well, that’s pumping out that electromagnetic ****. This is why it’s happening and it’s being done systematically because they’re phasing out human 1.0 in and starting to bring in human 2.0 and the number of human 2.0’s will be far less than there are now.

2:13:59 David Icke: That’s the idea. So, this is the kind of world. And then you’ve got a world where human 2.0 will not be able to do anything. Well, they won’t even have a mind of their own come to that unless their QR code says they can do that. In fact, there’ll probably be more advanced technology even than that coming in later on. So, this is the world that this is we’re moving towards. And you know, people say, “Oh, that’s far out.” Well, think it, mate. I couldn’t care less. Just telling you what I’ve researched in 33 years. This is what the plan is. And it’s unfolding beh this chat today Brian I’ve said this is the outcome that’s planned now people watching this program people might have been skeptical right what they’re going to do now because you can’t unhear something is they’re going to see the stepping stones day after day after day month after month to that outcome you’ll see it because that’s where we’re going

2:14:58 Brian Rose: Do you think we’re making progress, David. I mean, I bumped into a lot of people in the last few months that talked about our conversations in 2020. They’re still thinking about them. They’re still talking about them. Do you think we’re making progress by planting that seed, making people think that there’s something more going on and they need to be proactive to be part of the solution?

2:15:22 David Icke: Well, there’s two two things about that. First of all, because I’ve been doing this for so long, I see things in a bit of a different way to people who have come into this arena much later. People have come in much later say, why aren’t more people waking up? Well, you should have been with me in 1990, ’91, ’92, ’93, on and on and on and on. The number of people today who are awakening because none of no one’s awake. We’re awakening to the fact that the world’s not like they thought it was and reality is not like they thought it was and were told it was is absolutely fantastic.

2:16:16 David Icke: Compared with 1990 when I started out, it’s fantastic. Compared with 2000 it’s fantastic. So we have made massive progress in that sense not least because when something’s been under the radar moving under the radar and wants to change and transform society. There comes a point where it can’t operate under the radar anymore. It’s got to break the surface because if it doesn’t, it’s not going to transform society. So, we’re at the point now where it’s broken the surface. It basically broke the surface 2019, 2020 with a COVID card for so many people.

2:17:04 David Icke: And so people are now seeing things they hadn’t seen before. And the other thing you know that contributes to people from the sort of things that I do is that I talked earlier about subliminal below threshold below the threshold of the conscious mind. And so many things are subconscious or unconscious. And the conscious mind goes along and it’s seeing random things and whatever and it’s listening to the news. But if you can inform people, you can because this up to this point this whole basically this whole conspiracy has been subconscious.

2:17:53 David Icke: It’s been under the surface. It’s been manipulating effectively in the unconscious but now it’s breaking into the conscious that’s why people could see it but when you point things out to people the what’s been unconscious becomes conscious. So suddenly people can see by looking at the world they were looking at before but couldn’t see how everything connects. Once you say know the outcome and you’ll see the journey. This is what the outcome is planned. Suddenly they see the journey. It becomes conscious becomes out of the subconscious and people can see it. So I use a in a two of my books or so I use an image.

2:18:39 David Icke: It’s a subliminal image and it’s four plants and there’s a subliminal image in it and it’s this is this is really powerful when you do it because it really does show that what I’ve just said is true and you show this image to people just four plants that’s all it is and you say there’s a subliminal image in there can you see it something like 95% of people won’t see it and then you point it out. What you’ve done is taken the subliminal and you’ve made it conscious. There it is. And what it is, the white bits between the plants, spell out the word sex.

2:19:33 David Icke: Now, once you’ve pointed it out, literally, not every now and again, every time that person sees that image, sex is the first thing it sees. Why? When it couldn’t see it before. Why? Because it’s come out of the subconscious and it’s become consciously aware of it. And that’s what bashing out this information year after year, month after month, day after day, hour after hour, has actually done for so many people is it’s brought the subconscious manipulation to the conscious mind and now they can bloody see it. So there’s a lot to be encouraged by.

2:20:18 David Icke: But what we have to do now is in enormous numbers, doesn’t have to be the majority, but enormous numbers is move from seeing it just ceasing to cooperate with it. And that’s where the spine comes in. You know, one of the phrases I use is, you know, spirituality, true spirituality comes with a spine. Cuz true spirituality knows that it’s all that is, has been, and ever can be. And no matter what happens here in this brief experience called human, it will always be all that is, has been, and ever can be. So therefore, the consequences of doing what you know to be right cease to be part of the conversation.

2:21:18 David Icke: Cuz whatever happens to you for doing what you know to be right, you are still all that is, has been, and ever can be. And this is just a brief, not that much experience called human. And what it means is these people that work because they have no power except the power we give to them. They have to intimidate us into giving us giving them their our power. When you’re not intimidated by them, I think they’re a bunch of prats, you know. I mean, oh dear. Brain cell activity. Anyway, because you’re not intimidated by them, they have no power over you. Just think about it. Anyone anyone to think about it? Why do you do things that authority tells you? For one of two reasons.

2:22:09 David Icke: Your group number one, you do it because you unquestionably do whatever authority tells you. But number two, a massive group, but that group needs to move over here to the real renegade group. But this group does it because it’s intimidated, because it’s frightened of not doing it. So enormous numbers of people obey authority because they’re frightened of not doing it cuz they’re thinking consequences. When you get into this re-evaluation of your self-identity, I am consciousness having a brief experience called human. And what happens in this brief experience happens. But I’m all that is, has been, and ever can be infinitely exploring forever.

2:23:00 David Icke: Forever. No matter what happens here, the intimidation’s gone. Right? We’ll kill you. Do it. God, I’m still not I’m still not obeying you. Do it. But what you find is when you get into this space, this space of awareness, expanded awareness and self-identity awareness, true self-identity awareness, the consequences don’t happen in the same way.

2:23:29 Brian Rose: But it’s so hard to get normal people there, David.

2:23:32 David Icke: I know. But we need to get there though because of the programming. Yeah. What see this is the point. People in this expanded state of awareness and it’s not Buddha sitting under a tree. It’s everybody. I don’t care what you do and how powerless you think you are. You are all that is has been and ever can be having an experience. Your sense of powerlessness is your programmed perception of your human experience. It’s not who you are. But if you are trying to and you know this if you know that if people go into this expanded state of awareness game set and match it’s over which it would be not at least because the intimidation’s gone then if you’re going to control billions of people like I say you’ve got to do it perceptually but you’ve got to hold them in a sense of human self-identity.

2:24:26 David Icke: You’ve got them, you’ve got to get them to perceive themselves, their ‘I’ as the label, the five sense label. Cuz once you identify with the labels of a human life, what are you immediately identifying with? Limitation. I can’t. It’s not possible. I have no power. So the whole of the system is set up to get people to self-identify with the labels of a human life. And if you notice this, as this process goes on of going towards this endgame, they are working to subdivide the previous labels into smaller and smaller labels of what? Self-identity.

2:25:20 David Icke: So you now have LGBTQ and on and on it goes. You want to see some of the letters that some universities in America use? You know which one are you? Well, none of them actually or actually all of them, right? So what is that doing? That’s taking the old labels, human labels to identify with to identify with limitation and I can’t and it’s not possible and I have no power and it’s subdividing them. So now so many people and a lot of young people nothing like all mind self-identify the ‘I’ not with all that is has been and ever can be having a brief human experience but with their chosen sexuality. Who are you? I’m my sexuality. No you’re not.

2:26:11 David Icke: That’s your experience. Do you think you’re going to be that sexuality when you leave the body? That sexuality relates to the body. It’s a human experience. Enjoy it if you like what your sexuality is. I couldn’t care less so long as you don’t impose it on anyone else. But that’s not who you are. Your race, it’s not who you are. What is your race? Well, it’s my body. Yes. So when you leave the body at the end of this life, you’re not going to be that race anymore, are you? You the race you identify with is the human body race.

2:26:56 David Icke: It’s a vehicle. It’s an experience. It’s not you. But if you are seeking to control billions of people, you have to first of all get them to self-identify with limitation by the myopic ‘I’. And the more you can get them to self-identify with their sexuality, their religion, their race, their income bracket, all the fault lines start to appear that you can play all those different groups perceptions off against each other. This is what Black Lives Matter is about. This is why Black Lives Matter is funded by the cult. It’s nothing to do with black people and black people’s interests. Look where the money’s gone.

2:27:46 David Icke: The people that run Black Lives Matter have been buying million, multi-million dollar properties. It’s nothing to do with that. Why would billionaires fund Black Lives Matter to help black people, which the economic system they promote is causing such distress for in places like America? They couldn’t care less about black people. Black Lives Matter is there to divide and rule on the grounds of race between other races so that you have the ability to play one race off against the other. It’s all perceptual manipulation. And what you do, you go above it all when you say, “I am all that is, has been, and ever can be. I am the consciousness having this experience.

2:28:33 David Icke: I am not this experience. This is a brief experience in a band of frequency so tiny it’s laughable called human. And you go above it. And if you go above it, they can’t demonize you. So they tell you tell people that actually you’re still in it and you think it’s a massive Jewish plot and all Jewish people are involved in it. Which brings us back to where we started. It’s all perceptual manipulation. But I, you know, I’ve been accused of so many things. I’ve been abused. I’ve been ridiculed, laughed at. One ear and out the other, mate.

2:29:22 David Icke: I’m looking at it now here. And anyone can do it. Anyone can do it. Oh, you’re calling me that now, are you? Oh, thanks for sharing that with me. Couldn’t care less. And when you do that, how the more they try to harm you and discredit you, the more credibility they give you. So I’ve gone from being, you know, quite well known here and there in the Netherlands to being one of the most best known people in the Netherlands. I’ve been in 3 weeks and suddenly people are saying, “Well, hold on a minute. This is a bit over the top, isn’t it? What’s this guy saying?” And they look and they go, “Oh, I see why they want to ban him now.” And it’s not because I’m anti-Semitic. It’s because of what I’m saying and what I’m exposing.

2:30:09 David Icke: Like the Dutch Royal Family, Mark Rutte, I could go on.

2:30:09 Brian Rose: I’ve known you for a few years now, David, and I could just listen to your tone of voice when this all happened. And you’re a really stoic guy, but it seemed to surprise you or it definitely affected you to know that you can’t go to Europe maybe or you can’t go to America. And I love I know you love being on the ground and being in contact with people and I don’t know, tell me if I was wrong, but it felt like it was like, man, that’s something.

2:30:36 David Icke: No, I tell you that that that you know if I never leave England again, so sorry. I don’t have a problem with that. I will, but I don’t have a problem with it if it was if that was the way it turns out. What frustrated me in the wake of the ban, this goes back to something I’ve talked about already. Really what frustrated me was not what they did part for the course for me Australia you know it was how many people in the Netherlands but that’s just a microcosm of the world still believe whatever they are told the thought that I had been banned from all these countries and in the Netherlands on the basis of counter-demonstrations against me by people who have not got a clue what I’m saying or what I stand for but are simply reacting to what the authorities and the agencies of the authorities have told them about me.

2:32:02 David Icke: They haven’t stopped and said, “Well, let me just check out what this guy’s really saying.” No, no. They just do it. They just respond to it. And they think they’re anti-System. They think they’re anti-establishment. These anti-fascist anti-hate haters, anti-fascist fascists, they think they’re anti-system. They are the foot soldiers of the system. So, that’s what was fr got got me frustrated in the immediate wake of it. Not what they did, couldn’t care less. It was the fact that so many people had just bought it without question. And even people I knew well knew at arms length in the Netherlands bought it. They don’t now because they actually had the decency to reconsider on the actually look at what I’m saying.

2:32:48 David Icke: But they did in the immediate response to it. And that that that was frustrating. You tell it why it was frustrating. That’s why we’re in this mess. That’s it. We’re in this mess globally because of one of the greatest human diseases of them all. Naivety. That the whole history of humanity known human history is that authority lies. So on that basis, when authority tells you something, your first reaction is this is probably a lie. So what I’m going to do is check out and see if on this one occasion it’s not, you usually find that it is.

2:33:39 David Icke: And instead of okay, authority said it, so it must be true, so I believe it. That’s how we got into this trouble. You say, well, hold on. Authority lies. That’s what it does. So therefore, I’m not going to accept it. I’m not going to behave on the basis of accepting it. I’m not going to demonize this guy on the basis of what this authority says I should do. I’m going to check it out. I’m going to see what this guy is saying and then I’m going to make my mind up. And though just switching from one to the other would transform the world. Transform the world. And it’s the fact that known human history is authority says humanity does or believes or does because it fears.

2:34:24 David Icke: That is the reason. Look out, look back through the whole of known human history, any culture anywhere. What do you see? The few always control the many. Always. Why? Because the many give their power to the few in the form of acquiescence unquestioning belief or fear of not acquiescing. A whole of human history is founded on that process that dynamic. We now have the opportunity to break the cycle to break that dynamic. The dynamic that’s created where we are now. The dynamic that that’s the reason that the few have always controlled the many.

2:35:10 David Icke: We can break that dynamic. And all it takes is no, not doing it. If what you’re telling me to do is about enslaving me and my kids, no way am I doing it. And if enough people do that, this is over tonight. And that’s what we work it towards. But we better get on with it.

2:35:40 Brian Rose: Yeah. On that note, let’s get on with it. And let’s make sure everybody listening gets on with it. And as you’ve always said here, just say we’re not having it. It’s all it takes and it could be over.

2:35:55 David Icke: No. The most powerful word in any language if it’s used for the right reasons. No. That will change the world because Yes sir. No, sir. Oh, I don’t want to do it, but I’m finally not doing it, sir. That’s how we got here. No, is how we get out of it.

2:36:19 Brian Rose: Thank you for fighting, David. Pleasure. Thanks. Always a pleasure sitting down with you. You’re still fighting and still going strong at 70 and 70 plus.

2:36:24 David Icke: Oh, and I’m a chicken, mate.

2:36:30 Brian Rose: Oh my gosh. And it’s amazing to see that something that would be a massive setback for most people has just made you more well-known, more empowered, and this message is now going to hit more people. And we’re going to hit this critical mass, David, of enough people saying, “No, I know this is happening. We’re going in the right direction.”

2:36:45 David Icke: If they weren’t frightened of me, they wouldn’t do it. Yeah, it’s the truth.

2:36:45 Brian Rose: Thank you, David. I’d say anybody watching here, share this with someone. Start exercising this power of no. Whenever I spend time with you, I always start saying no much more often. It’s a beautiful thing, David. So thank you. And I hope you get to travel to these countries because these people deserve to feel your energy in real in real life. But regardless, I know you’re going to keep fighting and we’ll be there with you. So, thank you, David.

2:37:08 David Icke: Cheers, Brian.

2:37:15 Brian Rose: All right. Until next time. Thank you, sir. Bye, mate. Bye.