Full transcript: Live Q&A At The World Premiere of We Will Not Be Silenced
0:03 Brian Rose: Welcome to the world premiere of London Real’s sixth feature-length documentary film, We Will Not Be Silenced. Now, of course, this film wouldn’t have been possible without our main character here. This man has been working tirelessly for over 30 years to get his message out there. Mr David Icke, could you please stand up? What you’re gonna see tonight is a 27-day period in 2020 where we had to fight for this most basic, fundamental human right: freedom of speech. And David is at the tip of the spear of this fight.
0:35 Brian Rose: When they silence us, they show us how powerful we truly are. Before, I was an advocate for free speech, but now I’m a fanatic. They definitely picked the wrong white boy to **** with, because ultimately we will not be silenced, we will not be censored and we will not be stopped. So without further ado, I give you London Real’s film, We Will Not Be Silenced.
1:06 Brian Rose: I prepared my whole life for a moment like this, but nothing would prepare me for what happened next. This is London Real. I am Brian Rose. My guest today is David Icke. This is the story about how we got censored.
1:22 David Icke: There’s no one in the world that doesn’t have something valid to say that others can learn from. Nobody. What has happened since Covid has focused the minds of more and more people, and suddenly we’ve got this massive interaction of information, opinion, perception, ways of looking at things, and that’s what the censorship is trying to stop. Because when we talk to each other, we learn from each other, and what that does is it breaks down the uniformity on which tyranny depends.
1:57 Brian Rose: The world is changing. Inspiration is everywhere. It has never been so easy to connect, share and bring people together. We’re learning from others and finding the best in ourselves, challenging our beliefs, sharing our vulnerability, overcoming our fears, transforming ourselves so we can transform the world. How far can we go? This is London Real. I am Brian Rose. My guest today is… Let’s get this party started.
3:23 Brian Rose: Come on. Come on. Welcome to the world premiere of London Real’s sixth (that’s one, two, three, four, five, six) feature-length documentary film, We Will Not Be Silenced. And you’re goddamn right we won’t. That’s the truth. And I want to say first of all, I appreciate you all coming here tonight. I know some of you have travelled overseas, and some of you even clean up pretty good. So I appreciate you making the effort all round, and I really appreciate all the energy we’ve gotten from everyone in the process of making this film.
4:05 Brian Rose: Now, we spent three years to make this movie. It’s actually the longest period of time we’ve ever taken to make one of our six documentary films here at London Real, because this message, we believe, is more important than anything that we’ve ever put out there. Now, we’ve been doing this for 12 years. We’ve made a lot of pieces of content. But this is our fight for this most basic, fundamental human right, and that is freedom of speech. It’s that simple. It’s also your right to hear what someone else has to say. And these are systematically being taken away from us, and I believe this is our most important fight, for all of humanity.
4:45 Brian Rose: And if we don’t win this fight, well, we’re looking at a future that’s been described by the gentleman who made that quote behind me, Mr Orwell. I actually listened to that audiobook. If you ever want a downer, that’s what you want to do. But 1984 is not a pretty picture. And if we don’t stand up and fight for these rights, we are looking at a future where we’re no longer in control and we are being controlled. And yet this fundamental human right is being taken away from us every single day, and most people are really none the wiser. And so we crafted this film because we knew we had an incredible story to tell, and we had to tell it in the right way, and I think we did a pretty good job. So we’ll see what you think tonight.
5:30 Brian Rose: You know, it was hard making this movie, because I’m a very difficult person to make a movie with, to be honest. And so we tried many different times, and ultimately about a year ago we were about to give up, and I thought, I’m missing something here. What I was missing was this crazy kid that was down in Peru drinking some of that plant medicine. What’s it called? I don’t know what it is. Ayahuasca, that’s it. My director, who had been with me on all of my films, whether it was running an Ironman race, or talking about my struggles with addiction, or drinking some of that plant medicine myself, he wasn’t with me, and we couldn’t really do it.
6:11 Brian Rose: And I don’t know if it was the universe or someone conspired, but I was really blessed to get the director of this film back working with me, and his name is Luis Solarat. Please stand up. He’s right there. This is the man that made this film happen. Thank you, brother. All right, I will never make another film without you. You got me? And of course every great director needs a fantastic editor, and that is none other than Johann. Johann, please stand up. This is the man that also made it happen. And it’s these guys that have actually been making movies with us pretty much since the start, right, guys? And I think you really appreciate their fine work. So thank you, guys.
6:58 Brian Rose: What you’re gonna see tonight is a 27-day period in 2020 where we had to fight, and a lot of you probably remember that time and some of the content that we put out. But we were going head to head, fighting against trillion-dollar technology companies, huge governments and their regulators. We were fighting against massive mainstream media, and of course those little three-letter organisations that we all know and love, right? You know what I’m talking about. And yet we, with a small team in London, a bigger team around the world we call the London Real Army (I think there’s a few of you in here) and a small amount of capital, we fought back and we won.
7:39 Brian Rose: We put our message out there, ultimately to a livestream of a million people, and we showed them that we are more powerful than they are. And it’s a really important story to tell, and we want to show that again. We actually are more powerful than they are, and so that’s what we’re gonna chronicle tonight. Now, a lot of people came up to me and said, “Brian, why did you even do this? You could have stayed at home. Why did you put your business on the line? Why did you put your reputation on the line?” And the truth is, probably like a lot of you here, it’s just not in my DNA to do that.
8:12 Brian Rose: Now, if you ever come to the London Real studio, you’ll see on the back wall we have a mission statement, and it says: our mission is to create a mass-scale transformation of humanity into a fully empowered, conscious and cooperative species. That’s been up there since the early days. Think about that: fully empowered, conscious and cooperative. What were they trying to do? They were trying to take away your power. They were trying to make us less conscious and less cooperative. They were trying to get us to fight amongst each other. They’re doing it today. Any issue, they use it to divide us and divide us and divide us. And so it was against my DNA to just sit back, and so we went all in and fought as hard as we could, and we’re gonna show you kind of what happened tonight.
8:57 Brian Rose: Now, of course this film wouldn’t have been possible, and 2020 wouldn’t have been possible, without our main character here, and that is because of the work of one man. Now, I have been fighting for free speech for three years. This man has been working tirelessly for over 30 years to get his message out there. He’s been ridiculed on a national scale to such an extent that none of us could ever comprehend what that was like. And this was the man that was the feature of what we did, and we’re honoured to have him here tonight. Mr David Icke, could you please stand up? And David is at the tip of the spear of this fight.
9:46 Brian Rose: You know, recently it was confirmed that he is banned from entering the entire European Union. That’s 26 countries, and a further few with the Schengen zone, and Australia, and the list goes on and on and on. He’s not allowed to even enter those countries, all because, I believe, the Dutch government wouldn’t allow him to exercise his right to free speech. This gets no mainstream media coverage. This is a violation of a fundamental human right, and it’s happening right in front of our eyes every single day.
10:16 Brian Rose: Now, a lot of you know that four weeks ago, about 30 days ago, London Real was completely deplatformed from YouTube. Now, that was 12 years of my life. It was 14,000 pieces of content and videos that I uploaded, conversations with over a thousand of the greatest minds in the world. This stuff had been viewed over 400 million times, and I know my content saved lives. Not to mention the stuff I did with David, but I’m talking about people that my content saved from suicide, from drug addiction, from all sorts of struggles. I know because they come up to me in the street and they hold on to me tight and say, “Brian, that saved me.” That’s all gone.
11:00 Brian Rose: There were 2.3 million people in the world that were subscribing to my content. They wanted to hear what I had to say, and I wanted to share my content with them. And now a trillion-dollar technology company has come in the middle and said, no, you can no longer talk to each other. This is the reality we are facing, and I won’t lie to you. It was September 4th, on a Monday. I was actually teaching a class, and it wasn’t the most fun of days when that happened. It was like a big punch to the gut, and I didn’t sleep very well that night. And at the same time, I’m in the middle of making this goddamn movie.
11:35 Brian Rose: And so I’ve got David in my head and I’ve got all these messages in my head, and I got to an interesting point in the movie where I could reflect on what happened, and it was something that David said, and you’ll see it in the movie tonight. It’s very prescient and very important about what happened. Here we have a 71-year-old man who lives in a one-bedroom flat on the Isle of Wight. You’ve got some crazy American strutting around London in these three-piece suits talking all this nonsense, right? I mean, not exactly the two people you’d think are public enemy number one or two, right? But when they silence us, they show us how powerful we truly are. That’s something that David taught me. And so I’m using this as a source of inspiration, and I’m using this as a way that I can see to move on and keep going forward regardless.
12:29 Brian Rose: Now, I want to say a couple more things. During that time in 2020 I wasn’t alone. I had some soldiers with me that were standing side by side, walking into a battlefield with an unknown enemy. These people heard the fear-mongering, they heard the scare, they heard the social distancing, to stay at home, and yet they came to battle with me and made all this stuff happen on the screen, and I want to call them out today. Paul, please stand up. Kim, please stand up. Julian, if you’re here, please stand up. Please thank these people. You’ll see them in the movie. Julian as well. They were there with me on the front lines fighting to make this stuff happen. Yeah, they look much better on camera, don’t worry. And so if you see them afterwards, give them some love, hug them, kiss them, give them some money, whatever, but make sure that you definitely honour them. We appreciate you guys. Thank you so much.
13:27 Brian Rose: And so I want to finish by saying thank you to all of you. London Real has been the greatest thing of my entire life. These last 12 years have been the best of my life, thanks to you and all the energy that I got from you around the world. Some people ask me how we made it through those times of 2020. I feel like you were all giving me energy from all around the world, and even though I couldn’t see you, something kept pushing me on. And so I want to thank you for this crazy adventure that London Real has given me.
13:59 Brian Rose: It’s given me beautiful things. It’s given me now six years of sobriety. I’m so happy with it. It’s given me a purpose. It’s given me a beautiful family that’s right in front of me. I don’t know if they’re still awake here. Are they asleep? It’s given me [Brian introduces his family]. Can you guys stand up? Can we give them applause as well? Gabby, come on. Come on. Come on. Thank you.
14:29 Brian Rose: It’s given me so many beautiful things, but I don’t want to stop there. I want to thank a few other people. I want to thank the folks at YouTube, and I want to thank the folks at Facebook. I do. I want to thank the folks at PayPal and at Dropbox and at LinkedIn, all the people that got rid of me in 2020. I want to thank the folks over at the BBC. I do. I want to thank the governments. I want to thank Ofcom. Yeah, I want to thank the World Health Organization. I want to thank the WEF. And I want to thank the FBI and the CIA as well, because Lord knows they were probably behind the scenes censoring me in some way, shape or form. Thank you, Twitter Files.
15:08 Brian Rose: All right, and I want to thank them, and I want to thank them for the following reason. Because before, I was an advocate for free speech, but now I’m a fanatic. All right? A fanatic. Now, every hour of every day I am going to be accelerating this mission. I know exactly what I’m gonna do for the rest of my life. Thank you. Because they ain’t seen nothing yet. All right? I’m gonna double my efforts. I’m gonna triple my efforts, quadruple. I’m gonna 10x everything we’re doing here, and we’re going big, is what we’re gonna do. Because ultimately we will not be silenced, we will not be censored and we will not be stopped. They definitely picked the wrong white boy to **** with.
16:06 Brian Rose: And so we’ve got a great evening planned. We’re gonna have the movie, and then right afterwards David and I will be on stage for a quick fireside chat, and then we’re gonna answer your questions as well. And now I’m not gonna have anyone else stand up. I’m gonna let you sit back and enjoy this film. Please try to take something away from this film. Try to take something back that you can use tomorrow, that you can tell your friends about, that you can use to advance this cause. That’s why we made it, and I really hope you enjoy it. So without further ado, I give you London Real’s film, We Will Not Be Silenced.
18:51 Brian Rose: So, what did you think? There he is, Mr Icke.
19:09 David Icke: I hope you like the bloody suit. I went to Tesco’s for this, just for this. Next time you see this it’ll be covered in dust in some cupboard somewhere.
19:28 Brian Rose: It must be important if you have a suit on, I tell ya.
19:35 David Icke: Excellent. Congratulations to everybody. It was so terrific, and a reminder of where we still are.
19:42 Brian Rose: Yeah. It’s the first time he’s ever seen the film, by the way. So what did that make you think of? Did it give you flashbacks to three years ago? What was going through your mind when you were watching all that?
19:54 David Icke: Well, a lot of memories came back. It was such an intense period, because all hell was breaking loose. The whole world was changing. The country, the society that we’d grown up to know and thought we knew, just disappeared. And what it was, was a phenomenal wake-up call for how quickly what we think is normality, what we think is how things are, can change. You can’t change society that quickly? Well, you can. And you change it because of a simple sequence, and until we break this sequence, freedom will always be in peril. It’s the sequence of imposition and acquiescence.
20:47 David Icke: If you look at the hierarchy of the world, the hierarchy of a country, it’s a few people at the top of the pyramid dictating the direction, and at the bottom is the mass of the population that is the target of that direction. And between the two are endless levels of the hierarchy, in which the higher level imposes and the lower level acquiesces to the imposition and then imposes on the level below them. So hierarchies work. And if we as a population acquiesce to that level of the pyramid that’s imposing on us, which is governments and government agencies and medical systems and the World Health Organization, then we form a circuit between the few at the top and the mass of the population, in which the will of the few at the top is imposed on the mass of the population.
21:58 David Icke: When, in purely mathematical terms, it is impossible for those few (I mean the core of the core of this cult, the global cult I talk about; you could get them in a single room), it’s impossible for those few to impose on that many. What makes it possible is imposition, acquiescence, imposition, acquiescence, imposition, acquiescence. And the acquiescence of the vast majority of the global population in 2020 and 2021 was the reason all of that was possible.
22:38 David Icke: But what has been extremely encouraging is that, you know, I said a long time ago that there’d come a point… Because I was trying to put this out: this is what they planned, it’s what they planned, it’s what they planned. And of course, “Are you bloody mad?” and all that stuff. Because it was happening, and if you knew what to look for, you could see it happening. You could see the sequence. But it wasn’t obvious to the general population, because the general population want to get on with their bloody lives. They don’t want to face this.
23:22 David Icke: But there had to come a point where it broke the surface, where people could see it. Because if you are working towards creating a global dystopia based on AI, a digital concentration camp, there comes a point where that has to start manifesting, and at that point more and more people can see it, and the more it moves on, the more and more people can see it. And thus, something else I said: this has got to get really bad before we turn it around. Because most people, they don’t want to face it. Why would they?
24:04 David Icke: You know, I’ve spent 30, 34 years pushing against a door that doesn’t want to open. Because who the hell wants to think this is what’s going on? So when people come along and they say, “Oh no, it’s just a conspiracy theory, don’t listen to that nut,” all right, then that door… because people, they don’t want to believe it’s real.
24:29 David Icke: But what has happened since Covid, and what has followed on, which I’m sure we’ll get into tomorrow, has focused the minds of more and more people. And I’ve gone from being laughed at (every time I went in the street I was laughed at; I knew if I turned around I’d see people laughing and making faces at me, and I was very rarely disappointed) to being stopped in the street constantly, like you were showing there with yourself. Stopped in the street constantly, being asked to seriously talk about what the hell is going on and what we can do about it.
25:17 David Icke: And that is a confirmation of the scale of awakening. Not awakeness; we’re all awakening, we’re not awake. It’s a big process, because, and I think we’ll get into it tomorrow, this is much bigger than almost anyone realises. But it’s a confirmation of just how many people have started to get it as a result of Covid, because that was the point, and it had to be the point. Because, like I say, if you’re moving on, at some point you have to put yourself on public display, and then you stop trying to hide it. You start trying to sell it.
26:10 David Icke: We’ve reached the point with Covid where that which was hidden entered the room, and it heard the door click behind it. Right? Because we can see you now, and you ain’t got anywhere to go. So Covid was, in one and the same period, an enormous challenge. And they just want to play it again, of course, in some other form. But it was an enormous challenge. It created enormous mental problems. It’s killed enormous amounts of people, the jab alone.
26:53 David Icke: But it’s also awakened so many people. People say to me, more people have got to wake up. Well, yeah, the more the merrier. We need more and more people. But I’ll tell you, if you were trying to get this stuff over in 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, what’s happening now is phenomenal. Because in those days virtually no one wanted to… People talk about the alternative media; there was no alternative media. It didn’t exist. And now the numbers that can see it, at least to some extent, is absolutely fantastic. And so we’ve got a base now that’s vastly greater to build upon, as they throw their next card.
27:47 Brian Rose: Now we have that base. But also, you called it, I think, that totalitarian tiptoe. Everyone’s been conditioned to lockdowns, QR codes, jabs, that kind of thing. And so now, in a heartbeat, the lockdown thing, they can obey immediately. Yeah, I walked around the street there at the end to show that. I mean, now nobody ever thinks that’s gonna happen again, and most people are back to their normal lives. So is that a problem?
28:13 David Icke: Well, yeah. I mean, I’ve got this phrase I’ve used over the years: know the outcome and you’ll see the journey. If you don’t know the outcome that’s planned, then the daily events, whether it’s Covid or whatever, are just random. They’re just in and of themselves. They don’t mean anything in terms of connections. They’re just random events. But when you know what the outcome is planned to be, which is to create a global dystopia with a world, unelected, technocratic government dictating to every man, woman and child on the planet from a central point…
28:58 David Icke: When you realise that the idea is to connect the human brain to artificial intelligence, which can be controlled from a central point, and therefore humanity becomes a hive mind, centrally dictated via AI, where no longer do we have to be manipulated through control of information, even censorship, to impose and manipulate our opinions and our perceptions. Our perceptions will come direct from AI. AI will tell us what our perceptions are. So that’s the outcome that’s planned. That’s where they’ve been going all this time, and now you start to see the stepping stones towards it.
29:44 David Icke: But we are starting from a higher base. We are, Brian, in a different environment, in the sense of… There are still vast numbers of people who are in a coma. It’s a perceptual coma. And there’s two types of people, two types of mentalities, that have been responsible for every tyranny in history, and they were responsible for the Covid tyranny. The first mentality just believes what they’re told without question and just does what they’re told without question. The second group doesn’t want to do it, but is frightened of the consequences of not doing it, so they do it anyway. Those two mentalities have created every tyranny in history.
30:35 David Icke: Because fascism and communism are never brought in by fascists and communists. Why? Because there’s never enough of them. Fascism and communism, tyranny, is brought in by the population acquiescing in large enough numbers to the fascists and to the communists. And the third group has ended every tyranny in history. It’s represented here tonight, and it’s represented by the increasingly large, vast, increasingly large numbers of people who are starting to get it, at least at some levels, and you go through the levels and you get it even more. That mentality that says: I can see it. I can see what you’re doing. I can see why you want to do it. And I’m not cooperating. You know, all you need is a pocket calculator to realise that a few people can’t control the many unless the many acquiesce to the few. And it’s time we frickin’ stopped, and then this house of cards will come down.
31:46 Brian Rose: And so David and I will be streaming live tomorrow at 5 o’clock for a deep dive into the latest things that he’s kind of alluding to as well, so we’ll go a good two hours plus there tomorrow. So that’ll happen then. I definitely want to take some questions tonight, of course. There should be some mics being passed. Maybe we can grab them as well, and so we’ll get some questions.
32:08 Brian Rose: You’ve recently done some touring around the UK. Just wondering what that was like?
32:12 David Icke: Yes, I’m touring around the UK because it’s the only bloody country I can tour around. Right.
32:20 Brian Rose: Is there any update on the EU situation? I mean, they just recently ruled.
32:27 David Icke: Oh yeah. On that, there was a judge in the Netherlands last week who’d had his spine replaced by a jellyfish, who admitted that the Dutch government has banned me for two years, but they say if I don’t change my views it can be indefinite. They banned me with a law that no longer exists. Seriously, this is right. They banned me with this law, and it’s the Schengen group of countries. They have a border agreement: you’re banned by one, you’re banned by them all. This is all the linkage that goes on, like the European Union, centrally controlled. And in March of this year the Schengen group changed the law, which meant that the law the Dutch government used to ban me couldn’t be used after March. So this bloody judge said, yeah, well, it’s changed the law, and if it was now he couldn’t be banned, but it was the law when he was banned, so he’s banned. That was it, basically.
33:45 David Icke: So that’s what you’re dealing with. And, you know, if you talk about current events, I do have to have a little smile. Just a little one. Just a little one, when I see the furore in the alternative media, and all these big names in America, and so-called big names, saying it’s terrible, it’s terrible, it’s the end of freedom: YouTube’s demonetised Russell Brand. And I’m thinking…
34:21 Brian Rose: And I kind of find it interesting too that being banned from 26 countries kind of just passed by, and all the free speech advocates kind of [inaudible]. And yet when you think about it, to ban a guy from 26 countries in one go, overnight, it’s ridiculous.
34:47 David Icke: Well, actually it’s 27 now, because Croatia’s come into the Schengen group. So there’s another one, and it’s going to be Romania and Bulgaria; they’re coming in by the end of the year. So that’ll be 29. Plus Australia. Crikey, I’ll be confined to the frickin’ Isle of Wight eventually, and I’ll still be shouting.
35:14 Brian Rose: And what’s it like being on the ground in the UK as you go and make your way?
35:23 David Icke: Well, I tell you, I mean, we’re actually going to talk about this tomorrow, Brian, because I’ve got a new book out called The Dream. And with the previous one, The Trap, which we talked about, it’s going so deep into the rabbit hole, beyond, I think, almost anywhere else has gone, to put the Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates level of all this into a much bigger context. Vastly bigger context. So they’re just gofers. Rich gofers, and they have very influential positions within a certain level of the hierarchy, but they’re only gofers.
36:10 David Icke: But the thing that I’ve found very, well, not surprising, but very encouraging, is on this tour of the UK that I’m on at the moment. I started out doing two hours. My son Jaymie’s there in the audience tonight; he’s with me on the tour, and he has to smile, because, you know, I put another [inaudible] in and it just gets frickin’ bigger. But anyway, the last one was two and a half, I think. And what I do is, in the second half I take questions, and people go where they like. They can do all the here-and-now, names, dates, places stuff. But the first half, I really go deep into the rabbit hole, beyond the world of the seen. Seriously, beyond the world of the seen.
37:01 David Icke: And what’s very encouraging to me is people get it. One of the things that I’m seeing, and I guess we’ll chat about this tomorrow as well, I think that great chunks of what’s called the alternative media have started to coagulate and almost become a barricade around the five-sense level of all this: politics, who’s gonna win the election, all this stuff. And yet the people, the awakening people in the population, they want to go further. They’re saying, okay, yeah, we kind of get this. Okay, but what’s behind that? And what’s behind that is an absolutely fantastic story.
37:57 David Icke: And so I’m incredibly encouraged, really, at how the audiences all over the country, different parts of the country, different areas with different kinds of cultures in a way, are not only getting it, they want it. Because what’s happening in the world, in fact what the world is, is so fantastic that just to hold the line on here-and-now, names, dates, places, politics, Gates, Klaus Schwab, is to miss not only the vastness of what’s going on, but also the real answer to what’s going on. And you only know the answer to a problem when you see ultimately what that problem is, and it’s not Klaus Schwab. He’s just a gofer for it.
38:58 Brian Rose: I’m looking forward to that. I’d love to take some questions. So if you have one, put your hand up, and if you could just ask a single question, that would be helpful. We’ll try to get to a few and then we’ll wrap this up. Yeah, if you could stand up, too.
39:13 Audience member: Hello, mate. All right. My name is [inaudible], of the Hare Krishnas. I studied under the great masters of India for 33 years. They centred all their policies, like every wise teacher in history, on the principle of love. So my question is: what will happen if we all insist that love has to be the primary policy in everything that we do, every form of business, every form of interaction? We never want anything back from anyone. Just serve, because that’s basically what our choice comes down to: either we will be ruled by the rich or guided by the wise. The rich will always say, bow to our power and money. The wise will always say, love everyone unconditionally.
40:09 Audience member: Sorry. Thank you. I just have to say this. Liking means assessing, and you have to think about it, but love is policy. Whoever you are, whatever body you’re in, I will love you insistently, because that is policy. Whether I agree with you, like you, am attracted to you, whatever you look like, doesn’t matter, because I will love you unconditionally, whoever, whatever you are, whatever you’ve done.
40:36 Brian Rose: Thank you. I appreciate that. I wanted to cover that real quick. So as you saw in that third interview with David, we really wanted to show what David actually says in all of his interviews, that most people don’t even realise, because most people don’t consume David’s content. Anybody that doesn’t understand David has never actually listened to the interview. They’ve always just read the article about David. And what most people don’t realise, and I think it’s in every single appearance you’ve had on London Real, David, is that the last 30 or 45 minutes is that gold, that insistence on love. And it’s the piece that most people don’t even associate with you, and yet it’s underlying your entire message.
41:20 David Icke: Well, I tell you, that’s funny. The world’s inverted, and it’s inverted for a reason. Everything’s upside down, all of it. So what they do is, if they can’t demonise you for what you’re saying, then they’ll just say you’re saying what you’re not saying. And I have to laugh, because, you know, we’ve talked about this on the London Real interviews many times: I see the true “I” as consciousness. No form, just a state of awareness, a state of being aware. And therefore at that level we’re all each other. Doesn’t matter what colour you are. It doesn’t matter what culture you have. None of it matters. It’s all a frickin’ illusion. It’s just a vehicle for experience.
42:13 David Icke: But you see, this is the thing. If you look at all the different ways that we are divided and ruled, divided and ruled on race, divided and ruled on sexuality, divided and ruled on income bracket, divided and ruled on young and old, whatever these fault lines of divide and rule are, they come down to one thing, without which the divide and rule of those things would not be possible: body-centred identity. You can’t divide black from white from brown if they’re all aware that they’re one consciousness having a different experience in a brief, almost non-existently brief, experience called human. So you have to tell them who they are, the real them: oh, you’re a black person, you’re a white person, you’re a brown person. You have to do that. And so the great irony is that I’m saying we’re all one and all these divisions are illusions, and what they say about me is that I’m a racist. It’s unbelievable.
43:39 Brian Rose: All right, other questions. Just raise your hand if you have another question. Let’s go with you, ma’am, there. Where’s your hand, if you please?
43:48 Audience member: Yeah, I want to thank you for this film. I’m a filmmaker myself, and I can tell you this is an absolute masterpiece.
43:57 Brian Rose: Thank you. Thank that guy right there, Luis.
44:00 Audience member: Honestly, thank you. I mean, if I could achieve that in my life I would be very, very happy. But my question is, where are you going to distribute this film, and how can we help you to get it everywhere? Because it needs to be seen by everyone.
44:18 Brian Rose: Thank you, it’s a great question. So I originally was gonna put it on YouTube. And those are actual recorded conversations with YouTube execs, so that’s probably not legal, and I’m probably facing all sorts of liability if I put that up, but those are real calls, and that all happened. I really was gonna put it on YouTube. Now I guess I won’t be. Look, we’re gonna premiere this in Dubai in 17 days. I don’t know how they’re gonna feel about it, and then from there I don’t know what we’re gonna do. But I want as many people as possible to see it, obviously, because I think it’s really important.
44:50 Brian Rose: So I’d love to have any of your ideas. Also, whenever I’m in doubt, I actually think about all of you in the London Real Army, because whenever I’m in trouble… I hate asking for help. I try to do everything myself, and it always gets me stuck. And so when I realised that we are all one, and sometimes it takes a while to get that through my thick head, I realised almost always the solutions are me asking the community. So that’s probably what I need to think about, and I’d love your ideas. Because right now I don’t know how, but I feel like if everyone in the world saw this, we would make some real progress. So, yeah.
45:34 David Icke: Yeah, there’s so many. I mean, I do two, three, maybe, interviews a week with podcasters and people like that all around the world. And if you put them all together, they’re a vast global media operation. I mean, they work individually: this is my podcast, this is my podcast. But they all have access to audiences, and if you could harness that with this film, then you could get to a fantastic number of people. I mean, do you remember that April the 6th, was it, of 2020, interview? People all over the world were putting subtitles on it and putting it out after YouTube took it down, and it was seen by an enormous number of people worldwide.
46:26 David Icke: And, you know, I met a guy only two days ago, on the Isle of Wight actually, lovely guy, who watched them all, and he was a bright man anyway, but he had his understanding expanded by those interviews. They touched vast numbers of people. And if we can harness all those individual people that have audiences, you get to a fantastic number of people. Because the alternative media, which I could say didn’t exist when I started out… I mean, there was no structure when I started out, no internet. Okay, we’ve got an event? No, no, no, you stood in the street, you handed out bloody leaflets, right? That’s what it was like. But there is a vast alternative media now, and we should harness that. That’s the best way we can do it.
47:24 Brian Rose: I will do that. And just everywhere I go, our conversations come up. I landed in Dubai a year ago, and these guys from Kuwait came up, and they were talking about you. And then I was in Singapore and these people from India came up and they’re talking about our conversations. I mean, they just went everywhere at that time.
47:42 David Icke: Well, those interviews were game-changers, and I’ll tell you for why. Because it’s very easy to say things when they become more acceptable to say. It can be seen as more of a challenge (well, it’s not a challenge to me; I don’t give a bugger) when you’re saying things that virtually no one else is saying, and you should not be saying, and society says you should not be saying, and society will demonise you for saying it. But if you don’t say it, then when what you would have said turns out to be true, it’s no good saying, well, I knew this. Oh, of course you did, mate.
48:45 David Icke: But if you say it here and take the ****, then if what you say has got validity, it will be shown to be so, here, and it will have an impact. Which is why it’s so important: whatever we believe, we must say it, and we must shout it, and we must not be embarrassed by it. Because this is what most people do: they live their lives looking for other people to confirm their identity, to confirm they’re all right people, to confirm that they’re not mad, to confirm, oh yes, they’re intelligent people. And what does that mean? It means the person has to conform to what the groupthink believes they should be, and then they’ll get good vibes, good feedback, from the groupthink. And what that means is you’re not living your life anymore. You’re living what other people say your life should be. Sod that for a game of soldiers.
50:06 David Icke: It’s a simple thing: express our uniqueness. You know, this is the thing. We’re all one. Okay, but we’re all one consciousness, different points of attention within the same infinite state of consciousness, at the level of the true “I”. But we’re all unique expressions of all that is, has been and ever can be. Because what is all that is, has been and ever can be? It is possibility. It is all potential waiting to manifest. Thus, to celebrate our uniqueness is to celebrate the oneness that we are. It’s not that we have to be the same. When you withdraw from that and follow authority, that’s when everyone’s the frickin’ same. Because you look at every tyranny: they all want uniformity, all of them, because that can be centrally controlled. Uniqueness, mavericks: the worst nightmare of tyranny. And so it’s a celebration of the oneness to celebrate your uniqueness within that infinity of possibility, and what that does is it breaks down the uniformity on which tyranny depends.
51:25 Brian Rose: See, this is the David Icke that I want the world to see. And David, you make a good point. I mean, we were so early. This was March and April and May, and by August and September and October and November there were a lot of people piling into this space. But at the time, most broadcasters were still at home, too scared to come in.
51:48 Brian Rose: Oh yeah. And, you know, I’ve always asked myself why our conversations created a phenomenon. Like, what was it? Because you had other conversations with other people. What did we create? But there’s some kind of magic that happens when David and I are in that room together, and David used to say it. He’s like, “Brian, at the end of these conversations, the energy in this room is like…” And David and I are alone in that room. It’s just us, and we’re locked in, and for three hours we’re going deep into these concepts. And even though it’s this electronic media and these 2D screens, somehow we managed to capture, I think, energy. Not just your words, not just your concepts, but somehow the energy, and beam it out to everybody in the world. And you could see it on screen there. I feel like I’m right in your energy space when you’re talking there.
52:46 David Icke: Yeah. And what I would say about you as an interviewer, and I’ve said this to you before: interviewers in the mainstream (I’ve worked in the mainstream, I’ve known them), you don’t have to have an intelligence test to be a mainstream journalist, I’ll tell you. In fact, it’s a bad career move.
53:14 David Icke: And what they’re doing, I mean, what’s his name, Piers bloody Morgan? The interviews are all about them. It’s getting their views over. It’s, oh yeah, I’m gonna catch you out here. And of course what it is, it’s a ping-pong bloody match, right? And what Brian does, and it’s a rare quality, a quality that my sons have as well: they know when to shut the **** up and let someone speak and explain themselves. Especially someone like me, who’s connecting dots. Sometimes there’s a lot of dots to connect before the apparently ludicrous becomes logical. And then Brian will come in with a relevant question on the end of that, instead of, you know, like a mainstream interviewer, where it’s all about them and they have to be the star of the show. The star of the show should be the information.
54:22 Brian Rose: Yeah, exactly. The star of the show should be the concept going into someone’s brain. And sometimes my job is just to shut the hell up. And even if I look like an idiot or say something stupid, that’s not the goal. The goal is to try to present that information in the best way possible into someone’s brain, so they can consider that concept.
54:44 David Icke: Yeah. And the other thing about putting this information out is we’ve got to be at peace with people having a different opinion. That’s the problem: everyone’s trying to impose their opinion on everyone, vast numbers of people trying to impose their opinion on others. And my philosophy is simple. Here’s some information. Here’s another way of looking at the world, or this situation. Make of it what you will. And it’s not my business what you make of it. Because if I make it my business, then how am I different from some mainstream people trying to tell you what to think?
55:28 David Icke: We all need to have a chill at other people having a different opinion, because there’s no one in the world that doesn’t have something valid to say that others can learn from. Nobody. And thus when we chill out and free others to express their opinion without fear, then all these different opinions start circulating, and you can pick out from them different things that feel right to you. And suddenly we’ve got this massive interaction of information, opinion, perception, ways of looking at things, and that’s what the censorship is trying to stop. Because when we talk to each other, we learn from each other. We stop talking to each other, we have the official version, and that’s all we ever hear. That’s what all this “destroy the British pub” and all this stuff is about: drive people apart. 15-minute cities. It’s all about controlling what people hear, to control what people think and believe.
56:46 Brian Rose: I think there’s a question in the back. We’re gonna take that, and that might be our last. Go ahead.
56:51 Audience member: Hello, everyone. My name is Danny. The movie was amazing, Mr Icke and Mr Rose. I would like to thank you for this opportunity and ask you what would be the best way to get in touch with you, and possibly get on your show to tell a story about three years of victimisation and persecution, and tell a story about what government can do to you because of stuff I said on the internet to do with Covid, Ukraine and [inaudible] the election in my home country, Slovakia.
57:28 Brian Rose: Okay, email me, right? Brian at londonreal.tv.
57:31 Brian Rose: Any other questions? Just raise your hand. We’re gonna take two more. I think here, this lady here. Oh, all right, we’ll come back to you. Oh yeah, right here. You want to stand up?
57:45 David Icke: Tell you what, Brian, I know why I don’t like bloody suits. Crikey. It’s like a straitjacket sitting here.
57:58 Audience member: Let’s ask about 5G. 5G… it seems this Marburg virus is going to come about. Do you know about that?
58:11 David Icke: What’s that? I’ve had me nose fixed, now me ears don’t work.
58:17 Audience member: 5G and Marburg virus. It seems that they’re working on vibration, vibration with the mRNA that’s within our blood cells, if you’ve had the vaccine, that’s going to implode and create another virus within people, and it’s going to be created by the 5G. And this, I’ve heard, is at [inaudible] Eastern time tomorrow, which would be 8:22 in this time. If it’s not successful, then on the 4th of October, it’ll be on the 11th of October. And that to me is quite frightening. I want to know, have you heard of it? What do you think?
59:03 David Icke: You want to take that, Brian? Because I know nothing about it.
59:08 Brian Rose: All right, next question. [inaudible] But we might cover it tomorrow on the show.
59:14 David Icke: But yeah, there’s one thing I will say, that I absolutely say: there’s a connection between the jab and 5G. And this is one of the things… I remember Joe Rogan did a thing on his podcast. He was actually interviewing Russell Brand, actually. And he said that I said in one of our interviews that 5G caused Covid. I never ever said that. I said that 5G can generate symptoms that they say are Covid. But I think that the nanotechnology in the fake vaccine is designed to interact with 5G, because this so-called cloud, 5G, 6G, 7G in the pipeline, is designed to be our mission control, and the human brain, through AI, is designed to be connected to this cloud, so it’s feeding us our perceptions. This is what’s being built all around us as we speak. So I didn’t hear the question, but that’s a pretty good answer. But that’s definitely something that’s happening, and I think we’re starting to see it. I think people’s perceptions are starting to be affected by this cloud.
1:00:36 Brian Rose: That’s the goal. We’ll do two more: you here, and then next, buddy.
1:00:44 Audience member: Hi, I’m Dan Astin-Gregory, founder of the Pandemic Podcast. Thank you so much for the film, Brian and David. We were deplatformed ourselves after 5 million views, over a hundred videos lost, featuring barristers, scientists, the lot. So it’s such an important message, such an important mission, and we’ve got to continue to fight for our free speech. Now, what I want to ask is, you know, we’re looking at the nature of the problem, the nature of reality. We’re getting a really good sense, and it sounds like, David, your next book really goes deep into that.
1:01:15 Audience member: But it kind of reminds me of one of my close friends. She went through a breakup, and I said, what do you want in your next partner? And she listed all the things that she doesn’t want. And I think we’ve got a really good idea about some of the things that we don’t want. So I said, well, what would you want in your next partner? And then she described this whole utopian view, and she ended up dating someone like that, and then found somewhere in the middle. Married, about two kids, happy ever after. But what’s our story from here? I think, Brian, you’ve got one of the clues on your wristband here: transform yourself. I think that is certainly one of the answers, but there’s a lot of us on this planet. How do we organise ourselves? So are there any clues, from what you’ve learned about how not to do things and how the nature of reality is kind of suppressing humanity? And what does it hint at in terms of where we move forward from here, and how we organise ourselves henceforth?
1:02:06 David Icke: Well, I think we’ll talk about some of this tomorrow. You know, this is why I say that understanding reality is to understand what’s happening in the world, and to understand the Klaus Schwab level of it. But if you only see the five-sense level of reality, then obviously your solutions to the problems that you perceive will be five-sense solutions. For instance: we’ve got to stockpile weapons to fight the government. These are all five-sense. They’re not solutions. They’re just perpetuators of the problem.
1:03:01 David Icke: We are interacting… Let me just put it this way. Imagine a vast Wi-Fi field, and you’ve got a computer, and you can program that computer to decode a certain part of the Wi-Fi field, and when you do so, that’s what goes on the screen. The information on the screen is in a very different form to what it was in the Wi-Fi field, because the computer is the decoder of the Wi-Fi field, and therefore puts that on the screen and not something else. And we’re doing the same. We are interacting with this field of possibility and probability, and our perceptions are dictating, like the computer analogy, what aspect of that possibility and probability we are decoding into a manifestation of experience.
1:04:19 David Icke: So, to use a football analogy. You’re playing against a team and they are slaughtering you. They’re two-nil up. They’re all over you. God knows what the score is gonna be. And your mentality reflects that, the mentality of the team that’s getting beaten. The mentality of the team that’s winning, it’s here: control. And then, luckily, quote, you get a goal against the way the game’s going. And you see this again and again. Now the team that was getting hammered: hold on a minute, we got a goal, we’ve got a chance here. What’s happening is the perception has changed, and that perception will then start to tap into areas of the field of possibility and probability that will manifest a different experience. Now suddenly the team that was all over them, they’re on the defensive, because their perception has been changed by the way events have unfolded in the game. And this is happening all the time.
1:05:39 David Icke: And that’s why the stadium on which the entire conspiracy is played out is human perception. Because if you can get human perception, you take control of this process of perception manifesting experience, manifesting reality. You get someone who thinks they’re little me, I’ve got no power: what kind of life are they gonna live? Not because they have to, but because they believe that’s what they are. Their perception is that’s what they are, therefore they will manifest a life that expresses the mentality of little me. And someone else who doesn’t have that mentality will manifest a very different life. There’s no such thing as random events. There’s no such thing as luck. There’s only perception creates reality. Control perception, you control the reality that people therefore create.
1:06:42 David Icke: This is the foundation of the conspiracy. And if we take our perceptions back, if we take control of our perceptions back, we take control of our self-identity back, the “I”, the true “I”, and come from that, instead of just believing we’re just the labels of a human life. Then our interaction with this field of possibility and probability is transformed, and our ability to manifest a very different experience comes from that. So in terms of the question, how do we organise ourselves? If you get the perception right, the organisation will take care of itself. If you get the perception wrong, the tyranny will take care of itself.
1:07:34 Brian Rose: Okay. Last question, for you, sir.
1:07:36 Audience member: I was just gonna say thank you. This is for both of you, but more so for David. When you say you started so long ago and you were handing out flyers… We know the internet; we didn’t have the access to everyone that we do now. And then the energy it must have taken for you to continue fighting and fighting and fighting all this time. You were laughed at, as you said; you turn around and people are laughing, right? But then you have the determination to keep going and going and going, knowing that you were right. And then finally seeing people change and confirming that you were right. How did that feel, when you’ve gone all these years really, really struggling to get the message out, and just finding a way, finding a way, and now you’ve got to a point where you’re getting that confirmation and getting that recognition for everything you’ve been saying for so long? How does that feel at this point?
1:08:38 David Icke: I think I got the gist of that. Yeah. The thing is, people have said to me, how could you predict the future? And I say I didn’t. What I predicted was the plan this cult had for the future. And the idea of all that I’ve done in the last 34 years was to communicate what this plan was, and the more and more I understood about it, the more I could communicate, to alert enough people to head it off, to stop it happening. So in one way, being proved right has given you a credibility, so people will take the information more seriously. But in a way, that wasn’t the idea. The idea was to alert enough people so it didn’t happen, not that it did. I’m not sitting here going, oh yeah, look at me, I got it right. No, no, I’m sad that it’s happening.
1:09:49 David Icke: But I think, as I said earlier, I always knew that it had to get really bad before we could turn it around. Because when it’s over there, people are not going to react to it. When it’s here, people will have a very different attitude. And it’s starting to come here now, more and more. And so the credibility that has come from what I said was the plan, and it happened, well, there’s two things. One, it’s got people to look at it more seriously, in greater numbers. And secondly, the process of how I uncovered it (we might get into this tomorrow, Brian) has given me the confidence to use those same methods to go deep, deep into the rabbit hole, beyond the five-sense world, which is what The Dream, the new book, is all about, and see where it’s actually coming from.
1:10:58 David Icke: So it’s not about being proved right. That wasn’t the goal. The goal was to stop it happening. But now I think we’ve got a chance, because the numbers who are starting to see it are getting phenomenal compared with before, and they can’t do anything now to pursue their goals that doesn’t increasingly put it in our face and make what’s going on more and more bloody obvious. And therefore we are entering a period now where we’ve got a chance of turning this around. But it will take an end to obedience to authority, by more people than are currently doing it, to bring it about.
1:11:51 Brian Rose: So we’ll continue this conversation tomorrow, 5pm London time. It’ll be at londonreal.tv/icke if you want to join. Share all that stuff. We’ll be going back for a deep dive. It’s Rose/Icke 9. Tomorrow, Rose/Icke 9. [inaudible]
1:12:12 David Icke: If this was Germany, Rose/Icke 9 would be Rose/Icke nein. Rose/Icke no.
1:12:23 Brian Rose: Not doing it. Thank you. Please join me in thanking Mr David Icke. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you, everybody. Thank you so much.
