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Dan Peña - LIVE At The Ritz: Bank Accounts

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A clip from Dan Peña‘s 2015 live event at The Ritz with London Real Academy members. “We got two bank accounts in life,” Dan says: an emotional one and a financial one. Most people worry about the financial account, but he argues it is self-esteem and self-worth that lead to the money.

He tells the story of his father at an awards ceremony saying his son was successful “not because of me, but in spite of me”, explains why his children will inherit nothing, and describes a mentee with a single O level who did a 450 million healthcare deal with him. He finishes on why he still coaches and how QLA aims to do in three to seven years what normally takes a generation.

Watch the full event, starting with Part 1, and Dan’s story of turning $820 into $450 million in the London Real film The $50 Billion Man.

“Most of you are concerned about the wrong bank account.”

In short: Dan Peña, the Scottish-castle business mentor, explains the “two bank accounts” in life, the emotional and the financial, in this clip from his 2015 live event with Brian Rose at The Ritz in London. He ties it to his father, his decision to leave his children out of his estate and why he still coaches.

Dan argues that most people chase the financial account when it is the emotional account, meaning self-esteem and self-worth, that makes the financial one possible. He uses a story about an awards ceremony, where his father told the audience that Dan succeeded “in spite of me”, to show how the two accounts work.

This is a short extract from Part 1 of the day. Dan’s delivery is blunt and sweary, and the views are his own.

Key takeaways

  • Two accounts. Dan says everyone has an emotional bank account and a financial one, and that most people watch the wrong one.
  • Self-esteem comes first. He says self-worth is what leads to a financial account being built.
  • Parents shape you, sometimes unintentionally. His father said he was successful “in spite of” him, but Dan told him years later that he gave him integrity and an alpha-male example.
  • Wealth is not handed over. Dan says he is giving his children nothing from his estate, and refers to Napoleon Hill’s warning about leaving wealth to children.
  • Time over money. He says the mentor programme can compress a generation of wealth-building into three to seven years, and that time matters more than money.

The emotional and financial bank accounts

Dan opens by saying that Brian Mustard, one of his mentees in the room, has made progress since learning to manage his emotional bank account. He tells the audience that most of them worry about money when it is self-esteem and self-worth that lead to the financial account being built.

His father and the awards speech

Dan tells of being named most distinguished alumnus at his university, and of seeing his father sob while he gave the acceptance speech. When interviewed, his father said his son was successful “not because of me, but in spite of me”. Dan says he later told him that his father’s example had given him integrity and strength.

He describes his father as the youngest of seven, a shoeshine boy during the Depression who later served in two wars and became a police officer. Dan started work at 11.

Why his children get nothing, and why he still coaches

Dan says that, unlike Bill Gates, he is leaving his children nothing from his estate, while he and his wife support orphanages in the Philippines, a school in Rwanda, a mission in Sri Lanka and a scholarship fund. He says the wealth had to be created before the giving.

He tells the story of a mentee with one O level in joinery who went on to do a 450 million deal, and says he still coaches to see people across the line. The mentor programme after the castle is free for a year, he says, and can produce a generation’s worth of wealth in three to seven years, though he stresses it is not for everyone.

Who is Dan Peña?

Dan Peña is a business mentor based at Guthrie Castle in Scotland, known to London Real viewers as the “$50 billion man”, a figure he uses for the value he says his mentoring has created. He is the founder of the QLA mentoring programme and floated Great Western Resources in London in the 1980s. This clip is from London Real’s first live event at The Ritz in 2015.

Frequently asked questions

What are Dan Peña's two bank accounts?

Dan says everyone has an emotional bank account, meaning self-esteem and self-worth, and a financial one, and that the first leads to the second.

What did Dan Peña's father say about his success?

He said Dan was successful not because of him but in spite of him. Dan later told him that he had given him integrity and an alpha-male example.

Why is Dan Peña leaving his children nothing?

He says he is cutting his children out of his estate, and cites Napoleon Hill on the harm of leaving wealth to children.

Why does Dan Peña still coach?

He says he enjoys bringing people across the goal line and living vicariously through their successes.

Where is this clip from?

It is from Dan Peña's live event at The Ritz in London in 2015. See Part 1 of 3 for the full session.

Chapters

0:00 | Two bank accounts
1:04 | Most distinguished alumnus
2:18 | Successful in spite of his father
4:55 | Why his children get nothing
7:48 | Why he still coaches

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Full transcript: Dan Peña on bank accounts

0:14 Dan Peña: Because we got two bank accounts in life, we got an emotional bank account, we got a financial bank account. Now Brian the Mustard, he’s made real progress since he learned how to deal better with his emotional bank account. But him being a Canadian, Canadians are all ****. I mean, it’s not easy. And sitting next to a Canadian, yeah, Canadian, well, oh ****, that’s too bad, anyway. But I mean, so we got an emotional bank account, we got a financial bank account, and most of you are concerned about the wrong bank account.

0:47 Dan Peña: You’re concerned with the financial bank account. And it’s your emotional bank account, your self-esteem, self-worth, et cetera, that leads to your financial bank account being built.

1:04 Dan Peña: I got a couple of big awards from where I went to school, I ultimately graduated. I was on the eight-year program for my undergraduate degree, eight years, but I spent four years in the military, but eight year, and I got this big award as the most distinguished alumni. And they’re talking to Dr. Shirley Teter, the head of the School of Business. Dr. Teter, you’ve known Mr. Peña a long, long time. This is Connie Chung, who used to be an anchor for CBS a long time ago. He says, yes, yes, well, you’ve seen him grow up, da-da-da-da, what have you seen change in him in all these years, nothing.

1:38 Dan Peña: The only thing that’s happened with Danny, they used to call me, is that his accomplishments have caught up with his big **** mouth. Now, this is Dan Peña day, where I went to school. What kind of **** is that to say about me? It’s true. So, 10 years later, I don’t know, sooner, that was the same thing. And a similar result from somebody who’s getting the award, and I got the award, I was Hispanic Man of the Year in 1981 or 83 or something, I got some big award, because I am a minority, I’m a blue eyed Hispanic.

2:18 Dan Peña: Anyway, and I’m going through my acceptance speech, there’s about 3,000 people in the audience, and about where Robert is sitting, my dad’s sitting in the first row, I get about 15, 20, 30 seconds into the talk, my dad starts sobbing uncontrollably. Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, like that, okay. Now, I’m a pretty focused ****. So, I’m trying to block this **** out, and I had a three, a seven, and an 11 minute speech. I hadn’t planned the different speeches because I thought my dad was gonna start sobbing.

2:53 Dan Peña: And I got through it, I got through the seven minutes, I said three minutes is too short, I’m getting a big **** award, I gotta talk more than three minutes. So, I’m focused, you know, and so I get through it. So then, they’re interviewing them, again, they put a microphone on my dad’s face, and they ask him, you must be very proud of your son. And he says, yes, I am. About his accomplishments, his success, et cetera, et cetera. But my son, Dan, is successful not because of me, but in spite of me.

3:28 Dan Peña: I’m gonna say it again. He’s successful not because of me, but in spite of me. Because my dad knew that he had nothing to do with my success, but he didn’t know, and when I told him years later, you did, you gave me integrity, strength, alpha male role model.

3:51 Dan Peña: Yeah, example, exactly. But as far as the business, all he used to say, when he came to the castle, and he was at the castle once, and he just says, tell me it’s not drugs. Tell me it’s not drugs. Now, this is a cop from East L.A., okay? Went to Lincoln High School. But my dad’s emotional bank account wasn’t too strong. He had big balls, wasn’t afraid, fought in two wars, et cetera, but I mean, his father died three months before he was born.

4:24 Dan Peña: He was the youngest of seven, he was supporting his family as a shoeshine boy during the Depression, bootleg. He would put the packages in the shoeshine box, and that’s how he supported his family, starting at seven. I started working when I was 11, okay? And it’s like Napoleon Hill says, the worst thing you can do is leave your children, they could be born into wealth, okay? Bill Gates and guys like that, they’re doing a little different.

4:55 Dan Peña: He’s giving each kid 10 million or whatever. He’s not gonna give him the billions, he’s not gonna give him more than the same. I’m giving my kids zero. **** all, nothing, not 50 pence, nothing. They are completely cut out of my estate.

5:15 Dan Peña: And my wife and I, God love her, are doing the very best. We’re never gonna spend all our money. I have to live to be 1,000, but we’re doing our **** best, though. And we support charities, we support three orphanages in the Philippines, a school in Rwanda, a mission in Sri Lanka, something else, and a scholarship fund where we give four to eight scholarships for high school, student athletes where my dad used to go to high school.

5:51 Dan Peña: But we’re doing something about where we see there’s need, but we had to create the wealth first, instead of carrying placards around the embassy complaining about ****. And that’s more in the mode that you guys are in.

6:11 Dan Peña: So I’m different, and I don’t care what you think. And I’ve had a whole string of successes now with guys that are equally as stupid as you. One of my great success stories is a guy with one O level, okay? How many Brits in the room? Okay, you know what an O level is, right?

6:42 Dan Peña: Okay, his O level was in joinery. He got a C. Now during the break, not that I don’t want you to bond, the Brits can explain what that means, getting a C in joinery for his only O level. He and I did a 450 million deal. At the time, it was one of the biggest privatizations. It was a healthcare, public to private. It was a Crestacare and Four Seasons merger, and with one O level.

7:17 Dan Peña: But the guy had big balls, I mean. Very persevering, and he wanted it. Maybe because he only had one O level. One O level is like you graduated from junior high school when you’re 15 years old before you go into high school. That’s what I call the equivalent. It’s not exactly that. And you can do it. And why do I still coach?

7:48 Dan Peña: Why do I still coach? I coach because I get off on bringing sorry **** across the goal line. I’m living vicariously through your successes. And fortunately, I’m very good at it, so I’ve got a lot of things to be happy about. But because I’m not trying to make money off you, or et cetera, I can tell you. And the mentor program, although I don’t expect any of you to come to the castle, I already told Brian that.

8:18 Dan Peña: But the mentor program after the castle is for free. I mentioned it for a year for free. So that means I can throw you out any **** time I want. Why throw you out even if you were paying for it? But I mean, it’s for free. And his class is already four down, four down.

8:38 Dan Peña: January’s class is already two down. August’s class is nine down, maybe 10. Yeah, nine or 10. They’ve thrown him out. No, no, I’ve thrown him out. I’ve thrown him out. We had one guy in January’s class who resigned at the graduation dinner. He never even started. Although he gave a great testimony. It’s a great program, a great program, a great program. But an Irish guy after a couple glasses of wine and some Jameson, he said, this ain’t for me.

9:13 Dan Peña: I’m not gonna do this ****. And he was successful. He was one of the more successful guys to come to the seminar. And, but that’s great. But it’s not everybody’s cup of tea. It’s certainly not everybody’s cup of tea. But it’s the only legal way that I know at an age almost 70, where you can take what normally takes a generation, 20 to 25 years, you can create the same wealth in three to seven years. Three years if you’re a dynamo, **** par excellence.

9:46 Dan Peña: Five years if you’re average, and seven years if you’re a ****, **** melon head. That would normally take you a generation, depending on what you want to count a generation, 20 to 25 years. And we’ve done it over and over and over and over again.

10:07 Dan Peña: And I actually, I find it insulting that I have to keep telling people, most of the people, and if I had been coming to this to listen to me, I would have read every **** thing on my website. Every single thing. I know more about you as individuals than you know about me. And that’s a sad commentary. Not from my end, but on your end. But that’s how you approach life. And unless you’re willing to make that jump across the chasm, that quantum leap, you know, this is a waste of your time and money.

10:46 Dan Peña: And the time is more important than the money.

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