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Dan Peña - LIVE At The Ritz: Alpha Males

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A clip from Dan Peña Live at The Ritz

A clip from Dan Peña‘s 2015 live event at The Ritz with London Real Academy members. Dan starts by telling the audience there is no link between having a better story and going on to succeed: “It’s how much you have it in here.”

Then he explains what commitment means to him. Three days after a near-fatal dune buggy crash he was wheeled into a meeting with Klaus Kleinfeld in Frankfurt because “I told you I’d be here”. He describes having a broken tooth fixed with no novocaine three hours before a webinar, and his father, an army officer, meeting the family at Le Havre hours after surgery. Growing up, he says, “all I saw was alpha males around me”.

Watch the full event, starting with Part 1, and Dan’s story in the London Real film The $50 Billion Man.

“There is no correlation. It’s how much you have it in here”

In short: Dan Peña, the mentor known for his blunt style, speaks to a live London Real audience at the Ritz in April 2015 about alpha males and commitment. He argues that a good story or polished delivery says nothing about who will act, and he backs it with stories about a wheelchair trip to Frankfurt and a father who endured surgery without anaesthetic.

Dan opened by telling the room that being picked, or telling a better story than the person next to you, proves nothing about follow-through. In almost 22 years of mentoring, he said, the people who express themselves least well are often hungrier than those who sound the most convincing.

He then gave his definition of commitment through two stories, one about his own injuries and one about his father, and linked both to the idea of being raised among alpha males rather than around people who make excuses.

Key takeaways

  • Stories do not predict action. Dan said there is no correlation between a good pitch and what someone goes on to do.
  • Commitment means showing up. He turned up to a meeting in Frankfurt in a wheelchair days after a serious buggy crash because he had said he would.
  • Keep going through pain. He described having a tooth fixed without novocaine hours before a webinar so his speech would not be affected.
  • Standards are learned young. He traced his own attitude to his father, an Army investigator who sat through surgery without going under.
  • Surround yourself with alpha males. Dan said growing up among them, rather than among people who make excuses, shaped him.
  • Pick the right team. He told the audience to look for a dream team of capable people who are still available to work with.

Why a good story is not enough

Dan told the room that Brian picking someone for the event, or someone having a better story about why they are not more successful, guarantees nothing. He went further: in his experience the people with a slightly weaker story are often more desperate, and desperation counts for more than polish.

He repeated the point several times in the talk: the only thing that matters is how committed you are, and he has seen no link between eloquence and results.

Commitment in a wheelchair

His best-known commitment speech starts in Frankfurt. Dan had promised to introduce Klaus Kleinfeld, then newly in charge of Siemens USA, to some important people. Three days earlier he had been in a near-fatal accident in Cabo San Lucas racing dune buggies with his two sons, which left him with a shattered collarbone, collapsed lungs and internal bleeding.

He arrived in a wheelchair wrapped in a thermal blanket and told Kleinfeld he had said he would be there. A more recent example came when he lost a tooth hours before a webinar to a sales team and had it fixed on the spot without novocaine, so that he could still speak.

An alpha male father

Dan said he learned commitment from his father, who headed the Criminal Investigation Division for the United States Army Europe. When Dan was five or six, his father met the family at Le Havre in France hours after surgery to remove a large tumour from his back, which he had insisted on watching with mirrors rather than being put under.

Dan’s point was about environment: a child who sees that standard at home grows up differently from one raised by parents who were themselves shaped by excuses. He said a mentor who tells you they will hold you to account means it, and he closed by pointing his audience towards the kind of dream team that is still out there.

Who is Dan Peña?

Dan Peña is a mentor who has coached entrepreneurs for around 22 years, according to this 2015 London Real talk at the Ritz. He credits his father, an Army investigator who had served in two wars, for his attitude to commitment, and he describes mentoring teams and sales organisations through speeches and webinars.

Frequently asked questions

What does Dan Peña say about alpha males?

Dan Peña says he grew up surrounded by alpha males, starting with his father, and that this gave him a different standard of commitment from people raised among excuses.

Why does Dan Peña think a good story does not matter?

He says that in nearly 22 years of mentoring he has found no correlation between telling a good story and acting on it. How much you have inside is what counts.

What is Dan Peña's Frankfurt story?

He attended a meeting with Klaus Kleinfeld of Siemens USA in a wheelchair, days after a near-fatal dune buggy accident in Cabo San Lucas, because he had promised to be there.

What did Dan Peña learn from his father?

He saw his father, head of the Criminal Investigation Division for United States Army Europe, collect the family at Le Havre hours after surgery, which he had watched without being put under.

Where was Dan Peña's London Real talk recorded?

It was a live talk at the Ritz, recorded in April 2015.

Chapters

0:13 | A good story is not enough
1:09 | How committed are you
1:30 | The wheelchair meeting in Frankfurt
2:34 | Recovering from the Cabo accident
2:56 | The webinar and the lost tooth
4:26 | Learning commitment from his father
6:07 | Growing up among alpha males
7:04 | Finding your dream team

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Full transcript: Dan Peña on alpha males

0:13 Dan Peña: Just because you had a better story, and Brian picked you, there’s no correlation whatsoever that you’re gonna use it. Zero, in fact, I would argue there’s a reverse correlation and the people that can’t express themselves as well or had a slightly lesser story to say about why they’re not more successful are more desperate than as desperate as you look in are.

0:52 Dan Peña: And that’s been my experience in almost 22 years of doing this. There is no correlation. It’s how much you have it in here.

1:09 Dan Peña: I talk about, how committed are you? I just gave a 45-minute webinar, or whatever you call it, for one of my mentees to a sales organization, two or three hundred people, a couple of weeks ago. And I couldn’t be there, I forget where I was.

1:30 Dan Peña: Might’ve been, I don’t know where, anyway. So one of my most famous commitment speeches is in the difference between my generation, me and you, is that I had an appointment with Klaus Kleinfeld in Frankfurt, Germany, to introduce him to some important people. He had just taken over as CEO of Siemens USA. He hadn’t been Siemens worldwide yet. And they roll me in to the meeting, and there’s four or five people standing there, and Vinica, the one that was on that email that talked to you, I’m in a wheelchair.

2:04 Dan Peña: And this is also on my site. And I’ve got one of those blankets that the Red Cross puts on you, that makes silvery, whatever, to keep you warm. And I’m wearing a jogging suit, and my head, I can’t straighten my head up. And she rolls me in like this, and Klaus says, my God, Dan, what happened to you? Why are you here? I said, I told you I’d be here. Now, three days before, I’d been involved in a near-fatal accident in Cabo San Lucas, racing dune buggies with my two sons.

2:34 Dan Peña: Where I shattered my collarbone, collapsed all my lungs, punctured my liver, punctured my spleen, cracked my sternum, which is almost impossible to crack, and almost bled to death internally.

2:56 Dan Peña: Patched me up the best they could. I said, I gotta be in Frankfurt by the day after tomorrow. See, when I tell you I’m gonna do something, unless I’m dead or in a **** coma, I do it. So I’m giving this talk to this webinar to these guys. Now, coincidentally, three hours before the webinar, I’m in the kitchen, and I slip on some **** water, and I fall into the wall and knock this tooth out. Right here. I had a black hole there.

3:28 Dan Peña: And I got this webinar in three hours. Now, you **** would’ve taken a week off. I told, I have a private nurse, personal full-time nurse, I told my nurse, I gotta find a **** dentist. I don’t care what time, just get me a **** dentist. So I go to the dentist, and the dentist says, you gotta pick a mold, and all that **** they do, nah. You’re gonna fix a **** right now, I’m gonna snap your little skinny neck, ****. And I don’t have time, no novocaine, because I don’t want my lips like this when I’m talking.

4:04 Dan Peña: So they did the work on me, no novocaine. And so when I got the end of the commitment talk to these guys, I said, and by the way, three hours ago, there wasn’t a tooth, and I told them the same thing I’m telling you. That’s the difference.

4:26 Dan Peña: Where did I learn that commitment from? From my alpha male dad, when I’m five, six years old, he came to Le Havre, France to pick us up when we sailed during the Korean War. My mother and I sailed, he said, I’ll see you at Le Havre, I’ll pick you up. He didn’t tell me I’ll pick you up if I’m not feeling well, but he said, I’ll pick you up. So I go running up, I’m about this tall, I go running up to my dad and I put my arms around him like this, oh, I’m so happy to see you, daddy. And then I put my arms back, blood, soaked blood.

4:57 Dan Peña: So then I step around the back to look, his whole back is from his ass to his shoulder blades, soaked blood. So I’m five, six years old, I go, oh, daddy, daddy, but don’t worry about it, don’t worry about it. Come on, come on, let’s get in the car. Eight hours before, he had undergone surgery. Eight hours before. They took a tumor the size of a cantaloupe out of his back and he wouldn’t let them put him under. Sound familiar?

5:31 Dan Peña: And he watched the surgery with mirrors with a .45 automatic on his chest, cocked. Because my dad was the head of the CID, Criminal Investigation Division for United States Army Europe. And he didn’t, you know, this was in the Cold War and he didn’t want to go under where he might tell secrets and **** like that. Then they stitched him up, had local, you know, which had already worn off by the time he got to Le Havre. So when you see that growing up, as opposed to your **** parents, how do you think you’re gonna turn out?

6:07 Dan Peña: How? You’re **** up because of your mom and dad. They’re **** up because of their mom and dad. I told you by serendipity, by all his good will, my mom saw the Reader’s Digest version of this book.

6:27 Dan Peña: And my dad was an alpha male who had served in two wars. And all I saw was alpha males around me, instead of the miserable **** you’ve seen. So there’s a difference. Also, when somebody like me tells you, I’m gonna **** you up, I mean I’m gonna **** you up. You’re not gonna get a letter from my lawyer. I’m gonna rip your head off and **** down your **** neck.

7:04 Dan Peña: That’s the difference. And those people are still around. They’re still available. Not you, but your dream team.

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