Full transcript: Brian Rose on London Real
3:06 Brian Rose: This is London Real. I am Brian Rose. My guest today is.
3:11 Alex Jones: And we are now into hour number two. And Brian Rose is a fellow American but launched this very popular TV show and programs out of London, England, is with us in studio.
3:25 He was here for the big blockchain event that’s been ongoing in Austin. Brian Rose is founder, host, and CEO of London Real. Lived a successful business career as a banker in Wall Street in the City of London to start London Real. His life to that point had delivered on the promises of his university education, MIT, and his personal ambitions. But he felt empty.
3:42 So he quit his job and started a podcast to share his journey. He fought resistance to turn London Real into a new generation media business with over half a billion views. More than that, now 2 million subscribers. Brian has conducted over 500 in-depth interviews and is an antidote to the numbing effects of the mainstream media. Brian also founded London Real Academy, offering live partnership, mentorship, and courses designed to help you transform yourself.
4:05 LondonReal.tv. And I learned he was in Austin yesterday, so I asked him to come on the show. Perfect time to have him on for a big 35,000 foot view on the economy, Ukraine, the wars, the huge awakening that’s happening. But obviously, first and foremost, thanks for being here. Let’s get into Tucker Carlson.
4:22 I mean, 60-something million views on Twitter, hundreds of millions of views. Top story. Everything he said now magnified. The entire anti-globalist agenda exploding everywhere. The deep state panicking.
4:33 This is emblematic of them not thinking multi moves ahead. What would it do if they fired Carlson? People keep asking why they fired him. The answer is the show everything he did. And I’ve talked about the inside baseball without giving away too much, but he had a contract that he got a third of the money he would have gotten if they controlled his show.
4:51 So he took 20 million instead of 60 million to have control, but they kept taking control. And so that’s why I said on March 8th, I think Tucker will be gone in a few months. Did he know it was coming at that time? No. But he expected it.
5:03 And he’s definitely been researching and how to launch his own operation. And you saw him just on an iPhone last night. The top story, hundreds of millions of views. That has got to really be emblematic of the entire cable news system for three or four days won’t have that many views. This is really got to illustrate that this is a facade.
5:23 This is a paper tiger. So give us your take on that.
5:26 Brian Rose: Well, I think it’s a beautiful thing and it was only a matter of time before Tucker broke out and like you said, he’s going to be bigger than ever once he gets his own platform and maybe a studio like yours here and it just goes to show where this is all headed. You know, independent media is a beautiful thing. You encouraged me to set up my own platform 3 years ago because we were getting shut down by the big tech platforms.
5:47 And you always said, Brian, once I got shut down from them, I became bigger than ever. And I think Tucker is going to be bigger than ever as well.
5:54 Alex Jones: You’re a smart guy. I can ask a lot of questions, but keep digging into that. I mean, your view on this, what you’re seeing happening.
6:01 Did the establishment think he would just disappear?
6:04 Brian Rose: I mean, no, they know better. And like I said, he’s going to have even more control, more power if he can get this next setup right, and he’ll be an even bigger voice.
6:12 Alex Jones: So I guess you saw this coming.
6:14 Brian Rose: I didn’t know it was going to happen so fast.
6:16 It still flabbergasted me that they would throw away that kind of impact, those kind of views, that kind of connection. But how much longer is mainstream media going to even be around at this point?
6:27 Alex Jones: Well, that’s what most people are saying is Fox News is dead. Cable news is already dead. So, the last dinosaur is basically falling into the mud and is dead.
6:35 Brian Rose: And then not to mention what we call these web two platforms. Everything from Facebook to the YouTubes. Well, Twitter is still debatable. How much longer are those going to be around where people can’t have direct relationships with their fan base? That’s kind of why I’m in town for the blockchain conference where people can actually have a direct relationship, cut out the middleman, ultimately cut out the banks, cut out the governments so we can really finally have a system where we can go peer-to-peer.
6:57 I think that’s where Tucker’s heading and I think this is a really good sign.
7:00 Alex Jones: Well, that’s right. Was it 3, three and a half years ago, you were routinely getting 2, three million, 4 million views on your show on YouTube and they started censoring you and I just, I mean, it wasn’t rocket science. I said, “You got to launch your own thing. You got to do it now.”
7:12 And you did it just in a few months and it’s been even more successful and you’re still able to be on all those other platforms because as soon as you have your own thing, then they have a lot of trouble making the move to shut you down.
7:22 Brian Rose: It was a pivotal moment. You know, it was April 6, 2020, Alex. I had the second largest YouTube live stream in the world. 65,000 people tuned in to watch that conversation I had with David Icke.
7:31 The only. That’s at any one time. So, yeah. Then it builds up from that. Yeah, exactly.
7:34 It was massive. It would have gone on to be the most watched podcast in human history. Would have gone on to be watched maybe 40 million times, would have edged out what at the time was Rogan and Musk about 30 million. And yet 30 minutes later, YouTube banned and deleted that conversation. Alex, I have been broadcasting for 9 years.
7:50 Never once and I had been censored and that started this massive, massive fight that we had with these platforms.
7:55 Alex Jones: So, is it safe to say by you not rolling over because I know you had a chance. I know they approached people. I’m guessing they approached you. Hey, just roll over.
8:03 We’ll leave you alone. Then you didn’t roll over. It became even more successful. Is that what happened?
8:07 Brian Rose: That’s exactly what happened.
8:08 And I have recorded conversations of me with my YouTube representatives that are going to be in our documentary film that’s coming out where I can literally see them basically violating laws, violating freedom of speech issues, going with their policy and completely contradicting themselves as they tried to censor me repeatedly throughout that time. We created our own platform, got bigger than ever. And now they’ve slowly acquiesced a little bit, but it’s only going to come back.
8:34 Alex Jones: Exactly. These bullies and tyrants just run over you if you give into them. You have to defeat them. They’re not God. There’s not just bad people in the world.
8:41 There’s people that want freedom. And I think the public now gets how serious things are that there is a deep state. There is a uniparty, not just here, but different countries. And as that awakening happens, I don’t see how they’re going to reverse this other than I guess a nuclear war, a controlled power outage, a cyber attack. I mean, how do you think these corrupt interests grab victory from the jaws of defeat?
9:01 Brian Rose: Well, first of all, it only takes a few people to push back, Alex. That’s what’s really important to remember. And what they do with these tech platforms, YouTube particular, first they stop your virality. Then they take away your monetization. Then they give you a strike.
9:14 Very few people, Alex, will keep on fighting. But if you do, you realize there’s nothing there. It’s like, you know, it’s like there’s just somebody behind the curtain. It’s like Neo in the Matrix. Yeah, it is.
9:24 And once you see it and blast through it, then their power diminishes and the people are like, “Wait a second. It’s just a few people that’s controlling this.” And once you push out, everyone can realize that we can fight back. But we got some real issues to consider.
9:36 Alex Jones: No, I agree.
9:37 It’s not like we’ve won the war yet, but we’re starting to win battle after battle after battle. It’s like George Washington lost almost all the battles of the last year. They started winning them. I think we’re crossing over that point, but I don’t want to be overconfident. I’m going to ask question again.
9:49 What do you think the deep state’s going to do to try to stop us?
9:52 Brian Rose: So, I’m really concerned about artificial intelligence coming up here. I don’t know if they can control it. They’re going to try to control it, but I really think it’s something we all need to really wake up and think about it. I’ve been going really deep on this lately, Alex.
10:03 I’ve been having a lot of experts on my show looking at some of these companies and the tech. Quite frankly, it’s frightening and I don’t think the public has their eye on it yet and it’s going to come very, very fast. Exponential growth.
10:14 Alex Jones: And you’ve been a big financial guy, a big banker, so you understand this stuff. Explain to them really what AI is because they advertise as God.
10:20 It’s going to fix everything, but really it’s whatever these people program it as.
10:24 Brian Rose: Yeah. First of all, it’s been the largest adoption of technology in human history. This ChatGPT thing went from zero to a million users in 4 days. Went to 100 million users in 2 months.
10:34 That’s unprecedented. We’ve never seen that. Not the internet, not the mobile phone. This is potentially going to make humans obsolete. And I think we need to be aware of that and try to make sure it’s not controlled by the big tech companies or government.
10:48 We need to find a way to decentralize it and understand it or it’s really going to take over and it’s going to happen very quickly, Alex, within years.
10:55 Alex Jones: Well, absolutely. You know, the globalists claim they want a worldwide government to stop disruptive technology, but then at the same time, they’re just racing ahead like mad scientists to get technology to control us when the technology they’re creating is obviously the threat to them and us. It makes no sense.
11:10 Brian Rose: Yeah. And they can’t control this. That’s the other issue. Now, I’ve had people come to me and say, “Brian, you’re taking this out of context. When tractors came, that it made workers more productive.
11:18 When the computer came, it made the rest of us more productive. But artificial intelligence can improve on itself, and it will potentially make all of us obsolete in which we can do something about it. So, I don’t think the government really knows what they’re playing with here.”
11:30 Alex Jones: Oh, they don’t. It’s a mad gold rush where they’re just trying to be the leader in it, as Elon Musk said.
11:35 Brian Rose: So, there’s no controls.
11:36 Alex Jones: Yeah. Yeah. And Elon knows it better than anybody. He set up OpenAI in 2018.
11:40 So it would be open source nonprofit. Of course, that got co-opted. It’s no longer open source. Microsoft now controls it. He’s trying to set up his own.
11:48 He at least is trying to move forward on freedom of speech. It’s going to be interesting to see how this plays out. But this is a real war and it’s happening now probably in the next 6 months. When we come back, I want to ask you about AI and the economy and the wars, but also first Elon Musk cuz obviously he’s deep inside the establishment, but there’s fishers in the establishment. We have to expect that as humanity wants freedom and we stand up and speak out.
12:12 We have to be ready for big dogs in the system to join us. We can’t be like, “Oh, we don’t trust you now because you weren’t with us before.” No. I mean, as the worm turns, we have to be ready for victory. Very much so.
12:23 And again, some people you think have one agenda, it flips into another agenda, and pretty soon they’re actually exposing great tools that we can use in our agendas.
12:32 Brian Rose: I totally agree because here’s how I put it. The things Elon Musk is doing is so damaging to the globalist model. It’s irreversible. They would not do this.
12:40 I mean, what he’s doing is crossing lines they don’t cross.
12:43 Alex Jones: Brian Rose of LondonReal.tv is here with us on the Alex Jones show on this Thursday edition. I want to get back into AI. I want to talk about Ukraine, the economy. You know, you’ve been a successful banker and you know, been high level major companies.
12:57 So, I know that’s some of your expertise. I talk about the economy with you as well. But back to Elon Musk. I’m not an apologist for Elon Musk. I’m not a fanboy.
13:05 I’m not a cheerleader. I just see him going from getting a lot of big government contracts and doing a lot of important work that he was successful at to now branching out and attacking sterilizing children. You should go to prison for life until their age of consent. You know, coming out against the censorship, exposing the illegal government surveillance that Twitter, we know, goes on everywhere else. I mean, it would take an hour to list it all.
13:29 These things are irrevocably damaging them. I’m watching them come after his companies. I’m watching his companies get hurt by it. But still, like a kamikaze, he continues. We could speculate all day about what’s really going on.
13:39 But this is very exciting. But you look at what Tucker’s doing. These are bellwethers or major dominoes to fall. And I predict out of this desire for free will, this desire for renaissance that we are not on the cusp, but we’ve already gone over the top of a snowball that the establishment won’t be able to stop. What do you think?
13:56 Brian Rose: You know, I think when you start fighting for human rights and for free speech, it becomes addictive. So, you can look back at a few years ago and look at what Elon was doing and you can have different opinions on that. But once you get in the fight, Alex, I mean, I was, they picked a fight with me back in 2020. And once they did, I went all in on this, created the platform, started pushing back even harder. And I think that’s what I see in Elon.
14:16 I’m telling you, Alex, when he released those Twitter files, I had a moment because I thought I was going crazy, Alex, in April 2020 when I got systematically deplatformed from PayPal, from Dropbox, from LinkedIn, and I thought, “Wait a second. Is there really a bunch of people acting together? Then I read the Twitter files. I saw actors like the CIA, the FBI going in. What I want to see, Alex, is the YouTube files because I think they’ll be more interesting.
14:38 And so, look, my hats are off to Elon. I think he’s with us. I think he’s going to keep pushing forward and throwing a monkey wrench in the establishment.
14:46 Alex Jones: I agree. You know, I covered this last hour, but US Army high-level psyops expert, retired, said, “Look, they’re threatening Fox with the CIA.
14:53 They’re using the CIA.” I’ve experienced that myself. It’s come on congressional hearings. But what do they do? They go offer employees money to lie about you, but there’s no proof, so it goes nowhere.
15:03 That’s now come out with this so-called employee suing him. He never even met her or talked to her. It’s all just made up. But I mean, that’s the best they’ve got. So, oh, a CIA title.
15:13 Well, most of the former CIA and a lot of the current are on our side joining us now. So, don’t be intimidated by the deep state folks. It’s a joke. They’re working for the collapsing system. They’re the fools.
15:24 They’re the quislings.
15:25 Brian Rose: Well, I mean, this information war is the stakes keep going up and up and up, Alex, and I’m really curious where you think this is going to go because again, not to drum on again about AI again, but we’re starting to see deep fakes that are real fakes. We’re starting to see voices. We’re starting to see pictures. We’re starting to see videos that are being created.
15:43 And again, you understand information wars better than anybody here. Are they taking things to the next level now? And how are we going to be able to fight back?
15:49 Alex Jones: Funny you say that. I’m sure you saw it.
15:50 As the Washington Post two weeks ago said, the State Department and CIA are now deploying deep fakes for policy. So, they’re the ones driving it while they warn us all about it.
15:58 Brian Rose: Yeah. I mean, this is happening out there. You’ve probably seen the headlines about people’s family getting kidnapped and them getting AI phone calls from their kids and, you know, doing the ransom thing.
16:08 Right now in Kuwait, they have a news anchor who’s completely AI and people are buying into that. In a weird way, it feels like us as humans are even being conditioned to be welcoming these things kind of more into our lives. Whereas we should create a human union that says no, we want human hands to make it. We want certified, if anything’s a fact checker, this is human. And we’re going to have to find a way to verify these things in the future.
16:29 Truth. That’s why I’m a big fan of the blockchain, cuz it’s a public ledger that we can potentially all see. But right now, I mean, you know what they’ve gone to the Wayback Machine and deleted things off the Wayback Machine. I’m sure you know some of this stuff that Robert Malone was talking about, the CIA was doing. We don’t even have a record of what is true that happened in the past and what’s going to happen in the future.
16:47 Alex Jones: I’m concerned. And I’ve noticed suddenly the New York Times two weeks ago got caught. There’s thousands of examples just this month where they said that Edward Snowden worked for WikiLeaks and published in WikiLeaks. He didn’t publish it there. He published it elsewhere.
17:02 That’s a known lie and the New York Times said we don’t care. So they’re just planting completely fake things they know to create a false history.
17:08 Brian Rose: Yeah. And again, this whole Wayback Machine was supposed to be an exact copy of everything the internet ever published. But it looks like that has now been tampered with.
17:16 Alex Jones: So what do we do going forward? How do we verify these things?
17:19 Brian Rose: I think a decentralized ledger where we can all have a copy of that which means it can’t be tweaked or messed with by government. This is the future.
17:26 Alex Jones: There should be pro-verification free speech groups, not their fake fact checkers that we certify, we believe in who then separately save the internet and separately create archives and then put out certifications.
17:37 Brian Rose: Yes, it has to be going that going forward. What do you think Elon’s going to do with this going forward? And where do you think his head lies? Is he going to keep pushing for freedom of speech? I mean, every tweet seems like he is on the right side.
17:49 Alex Jones: Well, I mean, he’s releasing the documents that prove the government was running Twitter, and basically that means all the other major ones. So, yeah, it’s devastating. I mean, what he’s doing is devastating them. And again, it shows us, look, here’s an example. On Monday, I had an extensive meeting with a high-level federal official and federal officers who said, “No, the government has tens of thousands and is letting kids be kidnapped and we have the documents and here it is and it’s going to be coming out soon and we want to, you know, give you more of this and this is really in court records.”
18:21 So, let me tell you, when you’re sitting there talking people that level that are said, “We’re done. We’re not part of this.” The evil’s so bad it’s going to force a bunch of good people that were on the fence or they didn’t know what to do to take action. So, I think that’s why there’s a race to get AI in to head us off at the pass.
18:38 Brian Rose: Do you see other tech platforms being alarmed by what Elon’s doing?
18:41 Do you think their policies are coming back a little bit, coming a little bit more to be accepting the free speech, right? And do you think that’s temporary?
18:50 Alex Jones: If it is, I have not seen Google or YouTube back off. They’ve gotten worse. But yes, Facebook has backed off a little and so is some of the others after Elon.
18:59 And I, and I, but I don’t know if that’s because of policy or because now Twitter is feeding so much truth, because folks, Alex Jones is still banned, but the governor’s off. It’s and so and I don’t report that, cuz the enemy already knows that. But I mean, I can see whether he wants. I mean, Alex Jones is unbanned. So, we, I mean, I don’t officially have a Twitter, but I’ve been unbanned.
19:21 So, see, I don’t go off what somebody says. His attack on me was so ridiculous. I could figure it out now later. I’m not going to get into it, but the point is his attack on me a few months ago was so big. It was like, “Here, I’ll free all these people, but you can crucify Alex Jones.”
19:33 I was like, “Great, do it.” And then I can also see that the governor’s been taken off, right? And the bad guys know that. You know, I’ve been systematically republishing videos that were banned and deleted in 2020 back on YouTube. So far so good.
19:46 I probably put up a couple hundred videos. We’ll see if there’s a push back, but I think they’re seeing what’s happening out there and they can’t be as draconian as they used to be. We need to take this momentum and find a way again to find some decentralized social media, do the kind of thing you’re doing where you can get the information directly to the people.
20:01 Brian Rose: And that’s what I’ve been working.
20:02 Alex Jones: Well, I, but I can tell you what’s happened with YouTube with you.
20:05 When you were doing that is groundbreaking, when you were one of the first with myself and David Icke and others. It was super dangerous because you were at the tip of the spear. Yeah. Now they’ve already lost that fight with the shots and not working and all that. So they’re kind of like, “Oh, they’re letting you put up the old stuff now because they already lost that fight.”
20:21 See?
20:21 Brian Rose: Yeah. No, it’s definitely true. It’s not as effective as it was back then in 2020. It’s just interesting to see the tides go back and forth.
20:28 I think they’re very concerned about their own files being released at some point. And again, there’s criminal action there. So, it’s going to be interesting to see what happens.
20:35 Alex Jones: Oh, it’s totally criminal to collude with the government secretly. They’ve all lied to Congress saying they weren’t.
20:39 And it’s all confirmed they did it.
20:40 Brian Rose: Yeah, we know the dashboard documents even from Twitter that have come out. They were coordinating with all the other tech companies, not just the big other four or five, but dozens of them.
20:48 Alex Jones: Were you surprised at anything in those Twitter files?
20:51 Brian Rose: No, because we’d already gotten pieces of it everywhere.
20:53 I already had Mike Cernovich, which is great. He put me in touch with Google whistleblowers when I was first getting deplatformed four or five years ago. That was the documents and the dashboards of what they were doing. So, we already knew and it was all hooked into the other tech. They were all coordinating.
21:06 Alex Jones: So, a lot of this had already come out. It’s just that for the Twitter files, you can’t deny it. It’s like all in one big piece. And yet the Twitter files themselves have been suppressed by mainstream media, which means the average Joe in public still doesn’t understand the ramifications of the Twitter files. Brian Rose of LondonReal.tv is here and still with us.
21:30 I’m Alex Jones, your host. And notice the theme. They tried to silence him, only made him bigger because he persevered and didn’t give up and reached out to others to join him in a quest for human freedom. I mean, you have had such a massive effect. Most of the listeners know who you are.
21:43 But I mean, so many times critical big stories that really broke through. You and your team got it done. And that’s because other fellow humans believed in it and joined with you at the work. So now you’ve got a documentary coming out now that we’re several years into the censorship and control to tell your story. Will your documentary save the world?
22:01 Will Alex’s world save the world? Will my book, The Great Reset and the War for the World? No. All of us together contributing will save the world. And I used this example earlier.
22:12 The CIA, the FBI, they’re all weaponized. They’re spying on us. They’re censoring. They’re in interfaces digitally. And yes, remember they went to the Justice Department 2 and a half years ago when parents didn’t like critical race theory or transgenderism and talk to their kids.
22:24 They were just speaking up at city council. They said, “Well, send the feds, call them terrorists.” It turns out Biden two years ago sent letters to the teachers unions to say, “Call for us to come.” They want to use the government to intimidate parents. Did that work?
22:37 No. Parents got even more aggressive and started speaking out nonviolently. So, okay, use the CIA on Alex Jones. Use it on Tucker Carlson. Use MI6 or MI5 on London Real.
22:48 Use people that lie about us and plant stories and say we’re this and that and call us Nazis. Everybody gets your MO. It doesn’t work. At the same time, I’ve got people in every ages you can imagine and former as well that are giving us the intel and fighting and are totally awake and pissed. So, we’ve passed the point where we have more people in the deep state than they have.
23:09 They just have the folks on the top. But, as you said earlier, Brian, it’s the next shoe to drop, the people that are going to WikiLeak or whistleblow out of Google, out of Apple, out of Facebook. And that’s why they’re so concerned, but that’s also what makes them so dangerous. So tell us about your new documentary and we’ll play the trailer.
23:25 Brian Rose: So we were at the tip of the spear when this all happened.
23:28 As you know, Alex, on April 6 of 2020, you were one of the first people that called me up and said, “Brian, come on the show.” And I remember you asked me, Alex, you said, “Brian, what made you fight back?” Like what was that reaction? And it was just this visceral reaction inside of me, Alex, that just said, “Wait a second.” There’s so many weren’t at that point.
23:43 Alex Jones: Now it’s contagious. I know. And now revisionist history. Everybody talks about how they were fighting for that back in April. Back in April, there was very few people that were bold enough to even come in the office, let alone broadcast, let alone broadcast messages that contrary to the WHO and all that, take us back to that time, cuz you’re a nice guy letting me talk, all run over you.
24:03 But let’s not forget, January, February, March, April. April the peak point of almost everybody rolling over, going along with it. You know, the Daily Wire, almost all of them said, “Take your shots. Keep the lockdown going.” But you and I and others, we didn’t go along with it.
24:18 Brian Rose: Yeah. I mean that timeline was crazy. It was January, the virus was being reported. February it was kind of coming into the UK. March they were talking about lockdown.
24:27 We put these messages out there and then I got banned across all platforms. We had to fight back. We were the only people that were fighting back. We were having in-person conversations and broadcasting them out and they were going viral, Alex. They were going all around the world.
24:39 And it was people like you that championed us and then said, “Brian, you’ve got to ask for help and you got to fight back.” And that was a big moment for us when we asked everyone around the world, the London Real Army to help us build this brand new Digital Freedom Platform. And then on May 3rd, we pulled off the largest live stream broadcast of a human conversation. Me and David Icke, I mean, if you remember, Alex, there were no sporting events at the time.
25:02 Everybody was locked inside. Everybody was scared. And we were putting out things that guess what, Alex, in retrospect, 98% of what we were saying was true. But back then, lab leak theory, you were going to be put in a padded room, right? questioning the vaccine, deplatformed everywhere, asking about masks, asking about social distancing.
25:19 Nobody was doing that. And again, I keep harping on this, guys. Just type in, everybody’s seen the headlines. The Guardian, the Telegraph, the National Post, out of Canada, the Washington Post, US intelligence agencies, UK intelligence agencies, German EU intelligence agencies are helping use psyops to scare people to stay in lockdowns and take future shots and to censor disinformation. So again, we were up against intelligence agencies.
25:45 Alex Jones: Yeah, that’s illegal. Yeah, that’s illegal.
25:47 Brian Rose: And now with the Twitter files, it’s all become in perspective. But the thing that killed me is this, Alex. When they took away my right to broadcast, I stood up and said, “Wait a second.
25:55 First Amendment. This is my right to free speech.” And everyone stood up and said, “No, no, no. It’s a private company. You said yes to their policy, so you have to acquiesce to that.”
26:03 Later, I find out, Alex, that these same government officials that were supposed to protect my human rights went around and censored the company. So, they have the best of both worlds. They denied it to my face and then they went ahead and made the company censor me.
26:16 Alex Jones: The public needs to know about what happened. I want to ask about YouTube.
26:19 Brian Rose: I want the Google files out. I want the Facebook files out. And again, this documentary film that we have has I have recorded conversations with YouTube officials trying to censor me, telling me things that were just breaking laws. And we’re going to put it all out there in the documentary.
26:48 Unidentified speaker: Our homes became prisons.
26:51 Mothers are afraid to touch their children. Debates are a danger to public health. And we’re a few seconds away from streaming one of the most controversial conversations of the decade. Cameras are ready. We are ready.
27:17 But I wonder is the world ready?
27:20 Brian Rose: This is London Real. I am Brian Rose. My guest today is David Icke. What happened after that broadcast?
27:29 Unidentified speaker: London Real had interview with David Icke was removed from YouTube. If you take that guy off, you just make him bigger. Awaken to who you really are. I want to be with Brian Rose and David Icke in the universe. That is the future and that will never be defeated.
27:53 What the hell just happened? We will not be silenced. Wow.
27:57 Alex Jones: When’s this come out? Very impressive.
27:59 Brian Rose: Comes out in July. It’s going to blow everyone’s mind and remind them that we’re still in this information war, Alex.
28:05 Alex Jones: That’s Oh, I want to be the next question. Yeah, they’re not going to give up. They admit new diseases.
28:10 They’re going to release new censorship. This was the beta test. So, we people need to like go, whoa, we kind of won this war. They killed a bunch of people. They took a bunch of our rights.
28:17 Bunch of people committed suicide, mask on kids, all the problems. But we’re like, oh, we’re glad we’re out of that. Because as successful people, we kind of brush ourselves off and aren’t victims. We kind of get over the trauma. No, no, no.
28:27 Don’t get over the trauma. Remember it to stop the next wave.
28:30 Brian Rose: Yeah. Well, David Icke calls it the totalitarian tiptoe. We’ve actually been now conditioned to where we’ll go back into lockdown, you know, on a moment’s notice.
28:38 We’ll go use a QR code. We’ve actually been trained, Alex, to go right back into this whenever it’s deemed necessary. So, we have to be even more vigilant than ever. And guess what? Their information powers, their powers to come after us are just getting better and better and better.
28:51 Brian Rose: So, and with AI, there’s lots of other issues. So, we have to stay vigilant. Most people don’t even know this story happened. We have to remind people that this is a constant threat. Yeah.
28:59 Alex Jones: They want us to forget how they tried to muzzle and did hundreds of thousands of medical professionals, thousands of doctors, members of Congress, Rand Paul, it was a year after you and I exposed it, but he like a year and a half after he was agreeing. They were censoring him at the time. This is a US senator.
29:13 Brian Rose: I mean, at the time on our digital freedom platform after we had Icke, Alex, after we had you on the show, I had 50 other doctors. I had people from the Great Barrington Declaration.
29:21 I had to put it there. They were all speaking the truth, all being censored.
29:24 Alex Jones: only now is some of that coming to the surface and you’re trying to save lives and you’re on your independent platform getting millions, not tens of millions. And it’s so frustrating. Like you want to tell people, hey, vitamin C, vitamin D, hydroxychloroquine.
29:36 You want to tell them, but you’re not allowed. Yeah. And now we know why. Now we can see all of the evidence of why that was being held back. We can see the doctors that were persecuted.
29:45 We can see the science that was being violated.
29:47 Brian Rose: I mean, I come from a science background, Alex. It’s just hard to believe.
29:50 Alex Jones: And yet, most people still don’t really know what happened. Agree.
29:52 Brian Rose: Yeah. So, we have to just make sure it goes front and center again because again, it just goes back down under. Like you said, most people think it’s over. It’ll never happen again. That’ll never happen again.
30:00 Alex Jones: It will happen again. And now we’ve been conditioned. So, it’ll even happen easier next time. And they’ve said it will happen again. And they’re building these camps all over the world.
30:08 Brian Rose: Yeah. There’s a lot of scary things happening. Again, look to China. It’s only, it’s coming here. Look at what they’re doing with the CBDCs, the monitoring, everything like that.
30:16 It’s slowly going to come here. People think it’s not happening, but it is. We have to be really vigilant, Alex. And that’s why this is independent media is crucial. It’s crucial what you’re doing, what we’re doing, and what Tucker’s probably going to do.
30:27 Alex Jones: Well, that was my next question. You’re a former very successful banker and Wall Street guy looking at the world economic situation. Where is it right now?
30:33 Brian Rose: Well, you know, it’s pretty interesting to see what happening. Obviously, during lockdown, we saw the massive printing of fiat currencies.
30:39 I’m here in Austin because I’m in at the blockchain conference. So, we’re looking at alternative forms of money, alternative forms of communication that don’t require these institutions like banks and governments. What we’re looking at is a pretty dire situation and again what we’re trying to do is give the power back to the people. What I want is for people to have a relationship with money because I think I had a guest on my show recently, Alex, named Dan Held.
31:01 He’s out of Texas as well and he said, “Brian, without financial freedom, we can’t even have freedom of speech.”
31:06 Alex Jones: You’re right. That’s the foundation. Yeah, it is. It really is.
31:09 In fact, they say first, second, Yeah. Speech is number one, defense is number two, but they really should have almost had, you know, the first amendment should have been the second amendment and the second should have been the third. It should be financial independence and a currency they don’t control. Yeah. And look what they’re doing now.
31:24 Brian Rose: We’re rolling out the CBDCs. The one in China with the yuan, it’s dark. I’ve already heard I think about 150 million people already have access to it. The US is rolling out this FedNow program in July. People don’t understand the ramifications of the CBDC.
31:37 Imagine them giving you money and be able to take it back to you at any point in time based on your spending habits, based track where you spend it. And now it’s on the blockchain. It can be suspended at any point in time. You want to talk about controlling the people, it’ll make the information, the censorship on web two platforms, the masks, it’ll make it look like child’s play, Alex, when they can pull your money at a moment’s notice. And yet, I think people still don’t know what’s coming.
31:59 Brian Rose: So, we’ve got to fight back against this and keep the dollar free. It’s crucial.
32:03 Alex Jones: I agree. Here’s the good news. Six months ago, a year ago, two years ago were talking about central bank digital currencies.
32:09 Nobody knew what it was. Now they’ve got legislation. Senators are talking about it. House members, people around the world. There is an awakening curve, but it’s not fast enough.
32:17 Brian Rose: Yeah, it’s not fast enough. At least we now know because we play with these digital currencies like the bitcoins and ethereums. We know what it is, but they’re rolling it out anyways. And they keep busy people busy with look over here, look over here, and all of a sudden you’re going to be forced to do something. Alex, I know so many people in London who were quote unquote forced to take the vaccine.
32:36 Taxi drivers, all these people who were pressured into doing it because they saw no other alternative. That’s what the US and other countries are going to do with CBDCs. We’ve got to fight back. This is our most important fight ever.
32:47 Alex Jones: I totally agree with you, Brian.
32:49 I could ask 100 questions, but what do you want to get into next?
32:52 Brian Rose: You know, again, we want to get this message out about as far as information. We want to tell the story about what happened to us as far as the censoring because it’s continuing to happen and it’s going to come back in another wave that I think is going to be even worse. So, what I want to do now is just decentralize everything, Alex. I want to get it peer-to-peer.
33:09 One thing I didn’t mention is that big live stream we did on May 3rd. 2/3 of the viewers of that came from peer-to-peer sharing. Nothing to do with a big tech platform. No social search. So, you’re literally, we’re building by using it, by us doing it, by them using it, we’re building a new infrastructure.
33:24 Alex Jones: Yes. And that’s crucial. And it has to be money based. It has to be community based and information based. If we don’t build this now and we’ve got a short window and check the AI coming.
33:33 We don’t really have much of a future and it’s all happening very fast.
33:37 Alex Jones: Well, let me back up what you said. You said they’re going to hit us with something new even worse. The restrict is an internet ID. If you use VPNs, they can put you in jail for 20 years if they want.
33:48 It surveills everything in the name of countering Huawei. Has nothing to do with Huawei. Accesses all the new smart devices in your home, lets the government take those over. It’s so outrageous. I can’t even believe it when I read the bill.
33:59 They’ve got that and all these other systems. So, they’re trying to deploy all this right now ahead of something big.
34:04 Brian Rose: Yeah. Once they have a record of all of your information, all of your activity, then it’s very easy to go after you in the future for anything that they choose. So, this is happening again.
34:13 Brian Rose: Your power with AI gets even more dangerous. So, we just all have to be super vigilant and it’s a narrative that maybe exhausts people after a while, but it just is important to push.
34:23 Alex Jones: Well, I want to ask viewers and listeners this. Do you think things will be better if we submit or worse if we don’t submit? Obviously, submission to this is death.
34:32 But I want to say to people that work for the system, I know you’re all compartmentalized. Most of you aren’t looking at this from a decompartmentalized model. That’s why London Real, that’s why Tucker Carlson, that’s why Infowars is so important. This former top army psychological warfare operations officer said Tucker Carlson is dangerous because he’s decompartmentalizing and showing people the big picture because once the average person and people that work in the system realize, wait, I’m building my own guillotine if we get this awareness out early enough we can all peacefully non-comply and sabotage it like Mahatma Gandhi did and build the new system and all you have to do is say no, Alex.
35:09 There’s plenty of examples in human history where enough people just said no, we’re not having it and the government will back off. The people in power will back off because they’re a few. They’re not as powerful as we think they are. But they make it out as if they are.
35:21 Brian Rose: So why would even these elites build something like this?
35:23 Alex Jones: Because chivalry wasn’t a wimpy thing. People said don’t attack women and children cuz they didn’t want their women and children attacked when they went out and attacked the other men. Why do they get rid of checks and balances that our civilization thinking as elites it protects them? If I was one of these elitists, I would want all the checks and balances. That’s that protects them, not just us.
35:39 Brian Rose: You would think so. It’s counterintuitive. But if you could empower everybody to be the best version of themselves, then yeah, we would have this incredible productive growing economy and growing world. But they’re scared. This has worked in the past.
35:51 Alex Jones: It’s a short-term fix. And it works. That’s it. They’re doing short-term fix. Like, fire Carlson now.
35:56 Don’t think he’ll be 10 times bigger next week. Any idiot would know that. And it’s the same thing. Everything they do like attacking and going into Ukraine and starting a war with Russia and then they do a counter offensive and then now they’re moving away from the dollar and it’s hurting the globalists. What they thought one-dimensional.
36:12 Brian Rose: Yeah. This is evidence they’re not as smart as we think they are. They’re playing checkers. You think they’re playing chess. They’re just not.
36:18 Brian Rose: And it’s not more complicated than that. Like you said, these knee-jerk reactions, sometimes short-term views, but over time, systematically without people pushing back, it’s effective
36:28 Alex Jones: or but more than just than them being because they are the grandchildren of the elites and they are decadent and they are getting lazier and lazier. They have a lot of competent people working for them. Hitler knew when he attacked Russia, he’d probably lose. He knew when he started a three-front war, North Africa, Russia, and with the West that he’d lose.
36:48 But if you read his writings towards the end, he said, “My main mission is just kill all the Jews and and wreak havoc.” And he and the Germans deserve to die, you know, and he flooded the subways. And he knew he was getting Germany annihilated. He just liked the ride. And so we have to kind of understand these psychos just like to do bad stuff.
37:04 I think we got some real psychos in charge here.
37:06 Brian Rose: Very possible. I mean, you look at some of the behavior and it doesn’t make a lot of sense and they’ve been in this power position for a long time. I think they’re also using an old playbook, Alex, and it worked in the past and it was easier for it to work in the past. I mean, we didn’t have people like you and me in the past.
37:21 Like all the media really was controlled. So, yeah, they aren’t making obviously the most intelligent decisions, which is great. We should see that as like a crack in the armor and push forward, but it needs more people to be aware, more people to just push back and say no. Say I’m not giving you that information. No, I’m not gonna allow that to happen with my schools.
37:37 Alex Jones: I’m not gonna, I realize how much people think of themselves as little. So powerful. Exactly. All of us together, little decisions are big. Yeah.
37:44 And it just has to. All you have to do is step up. And I know it’s going to be slightly inconvenient, but you’ve just got to push back and say, “No, we are not having this. We are not accepted because giving in is a trillion times more inconvenient.
37:55 Brian Rose: Yeah, it is.
37:56 Alex Jones: And again, you’re going to have to answer to your children and to your grandchildren.” And they’re going to ask you questions. What did you do in the 20s? What did you do to facilitate the push back? and you’re going to have to give him an answer.
38:06 And the future is ugly and dystopian unless we all stand up and be counted now. And we know future does repeat and it does rhyme. We have an RFK, dad and uncle killed now running for president. We have the 20s leading into the fascism in World War II and probably a collapse by the end of this decade. I mean, do you not see history repeating but on a more grand scale?
38:28 Brian Rose: Yeah, very much so. I mean, we had Robert Kennedy on the digital freedom platform because he wasn’t allowed on YouTube at the time. It’s fascinating to see him now coming out and pushing back, breaking out.
38:37 Alex Jones: Yeah. Breaking out.
38:38 And the massive censorship he’s gone through. It’s just incredible. It almost boggles my mind what they’ve done to him yet with the bestselling books in the country. Of course, it’s, you know, not on the New York Times bestseller list, suppressed in all way, shape, or form. And yet, people don’t even give him a chance.
38:53 Brian Rose: That’s the thing, Alex, about people like you and Icke and Robert Kennedy. They don’t even know you or what you talk about. All they know is that people say not to listen to you. If you actually listen to Kennedy for 10 minutes, you realize he’s actually a very reasonable, very knowledgeable guy who really cares about the people.
39:07 Alex Jones: Who would make a great president?
39:08 Yeah. Who’d make a great president. Same with you. Same with people like me. Again, the media, they con everyone into saying, “Oh, no, don’t listen to these people cuz they’re bad.”
39:16 Brian Rose: That’s the thing. So, people really have to take the time, walk a mile in a man’s shoes, see what the total of what they’re talking about, thinking about, and then make a judgment.
39:25 Alex Jones: So, exactly, and realize that I know you want to just watch movies at night and have fun and eat dinner and you worked all day. But folks, we’re going to lose everything. We don’t do this and it’s also an animating contest.
39:36 Alex Jones: So, whoever they’re saying don’t listen to, you should listen to.
39:39 Brian Rose: Yeah, exactly. If someone is telling you not to listen to someone, you should want to go seek out and find out why. And yes, you said it really well, Alex. We have to be proactive here.
39:47 Brian Rose: I always say, what am I going to tell my children and grandchildren when they say, “Papa, what did you do in the great crisis of 2020? Did you sit back and watch Netflix on binge? Did you go have a snack? Or did you fight? We all need to be proactive about our future.
39:59 Alex Jones: And notice they played to our laziness. Just stay home, drink beer, order, you know, order Uber Eats and then meanwhile the whole civilization collapses.
40:06 Brian Rose: Yeah. And it was completely coordinated and it was all dominated. They controlled our information.
40:11 They controlled everything. And we fell right into it. So everyone has to take ownership. And again, it’s ultimately all about love. Like do you care about this world?
40:20 Do you want the best for this world, for your children, for everybody?
40:23 Alex Jones: I totally agree with you. From a sociopath view, and I’m not a sociopath, the opposite. I have deep empathy. But looking at a sociopath who’s thinking only one step ahead and not 10 steps ahead, this is so destructive.
40:34 This anti-human world, a capitalist free market, laissez-faire, libertarian, true liberal society is awesome. And that’s what everybody wanted. Why join corporate fascists saying they’re liberals that are destroying it? I mean, 99.99% of people are not going to do well in this new world order. So even the sociopaths, why would you go along with this?
40:54 Brian Rose: Yeah, I know it’s mindboggling, but they’re thinking short term and like I think, Alex, they’re running an old playbook on repeat that’s worked for them in the past, but this is a new system now. We have new ways of information, new ways of compensating each other directly. It’s going to break down, but people should see this. This is a crack in the armor. This could be one of our last chances, Alex.
41:13 That’s why we have to stay vigilant because it’s only going to get more advanced as I totally agree.
41:18 Alex Jones: And as dark as things seem, I can sense historically and also feel, which is really your subconscious, more powerful than your conscious, that we could really have a golden era if we play our cards right. It could be incredible. It could be incredibly golden. And we, or 3 or 4 years from now, it could be much darker than it was in 20 or 21 with things that we can’t even comprehend.
41:35 That’s the inflection point.
41:36 Brian Rose: Yeah, it’s happening right now, Alex. It’s important. Which is why, you know, what you’re doing is important. That’s why we’re putting this movie out now just to remind people of what happened.
41:44 It’s only going to get more advanced in the future.
41:46 Alex Jones: Well, I’m glad you came on. I’m glad you came to Austin. Reach out. Of course, I want you on anytime you want via Skype, Zoom, or when you’re here in person.
41:52 Tell us more about the movie. Where do we find it and bookmark it and promote it? LondonReal.tv or is there a URL for the movie?
41:59 Brian Rose: Yeah, so it’s londonreal.tv/mov. We are going to premiere it in London on July 28th.
42:04 We have a big event. Then we’re going to premiere it around the world in different cities and we’ll also have an online premiere afterwards for anyone who wants to support it. We’re also going to be digitally distributing this. I’m going to bake it into the blockchain to where it can never be censored ever because I don’t trust it, Alex. I do not trust it staying up there forever and I want to make sure people can always watch this.
42:24 Alex Jones: Brian, you asked me cuz we only talked like 30 seconds before we went live today how I’m doing. And I said, I’ve never been doing better. And you basically said the same thing. So, it’s the animating contest of liberty. I want people to know we’re supposed to, and obviously you’re in better shape than I, but it’s a metaphor.
42:40 Lift weights, ride bikes. It’s not once you do it, you get addicted to it. We’ve not been fighting tyranny. Once you do it, it’s exciting. So, it’s not like it’s some horrible grind we’re getting into.
42:49 We’re designed to promote free will and justice and freedom. And it’s been good guys and good girls, good ladies that haven’t been engaged. Kind of leaving it to the establishment that have allowed this. I think the rediscovery of this animating contest that Thomas Jefferson talked about is exploding right now. And once people, as you said, figure it out, it’s addictive to do the right thing.
43:08 It’s in ourselves.
43:09 Brian Rose: Yeah. And I love being part of the team that’s on the right side of history. When I did that broadcast and you reached out, Alex, in addition to celebrities from all over the world and people in tons of influences said, “Brian, we’re with you 100%.” I’m telling you, Alex, people want to be in this fight.
43:23 It’s what we’re here for as humans to protect what we value more than anything. And you were a huge part of that, Alex, and I just want to say thank you.
43:32 Alex Jones: Well, here’s a part of the fight club microcosm. Back three years ago, when that was happening, I was, my producers, I want this guy on. He’s awesome.
43:40 He’s doing these great interviews. Get him on the show. They’re censoring him. We got to talk to him. And I walk in the house at night.
43:46 My wife’s cooking dinner. She’s got the iPad on watching you and David. I like the censored deal. And I was, see, that’s the synergy. And then I was, you know, the next day at a friend’s house and they had it on and then I think I told you about this.
43:59 Yeah. And then I was talking to Joe Rogan on the film and he said, “Have you seen this?” So I mean it was like but you know you love to see that zeitgeist happening. Yeah. That’s when you know you’re over the target.
44:08 Brian Rose: Yeah. That’s when you know and people should sense out for those things and sends out like-minded people. And if this message is resonating with you at all, come join us. We need you out there spreading this information, talking about these important issues. It’s crucial and it’s not hard.
44:20 All we have to do is push back and say no.
44:22 Alex Jones: One minute left. Why are you living in Airstrip One? Why’d you move to London?
44:27 Brian Rose: You know, I moved there 20 years ago.
44:29 And it’s been a beautiful thing. I feel like I’m an outpost out there speaking the truth, Alex. You know, I’m an American in London who’s now a Brit. and I was in the right place at the right time to really put these messages out there and I feel like I’m kind of an outpost for all the great work you’re doing here in America and a lot of other people. So for me that’s home.
44:45 I am London Real. LondonReal is me and we’re just going to keep pushing these messages out there.
44:50 Alex Jones: Should they, where should they go to share the trailer, cuz I want to share that trailer?
44:55 Brian Rose: Yeah, definitely. We’re going to have it up at londonreal.tv/mov.
44:58 Alex Jones: I’m sure you’re going to probably put it on band as well. But great guys grab it and put it on band right now. Put on the front page of course. Beautiful man brother. Love you.
45:05 Brian Rose: Appreciate you too, sir. Thank you for coming on and it’s so exciting. You’re taking us over the top all of us together, brother. Let’s do it, man. Thank you, Alex.
45:12 Alex Jones: I appreciate you very much. I appreciate you. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we’re going to come back. We have Luke Rudkowski joining us. Talk about a smart guy.
45:20 I’ve known this guy 18 years. He just gets smarter and smarter. We’re on Tim Pool’s podcast a few weeks ago, went viral. He just knocks it out of the park. Luke Rudkowski, Rowski, Rufkowski.
45:28 There’s different ways of saying it. I’m going to ask you really sick cuz I have like Russians tell me this, Polish people tell me this. I’ve known him for 18 years. It’s Luke Rudkowski, but we’re going to get the right way to pronounce his name, too. Coming up.
