Full transcript: Myles Dyer on London Real
0:00 Hey, guys. It’s Brian Rose. This week we have Myles Dyer on the show. He’s a YouTube pioneer, a marketing Jedi, and he’s got something called the Universal Solutions Project, which is the idea to help everyone engage with and try to change the world. So, check him out.
0:33 As usual is Mr. Nick Gabriel and joining us in studio today is Mr. Myles Dyer who is a YouTube pioneer, a marketing Jedi, and is the founder or creator of the Universal Solutions project. Brian, you forgot he’s got his own band. He’s also the member of a band, right? And he’s also a hair innovator and he’s got the coolest rings I’ve ever seen. Can you show him the rings? Check that out. Have you even punched anyone with those and left a little like skeleton imprinted on some guy’s cheek I haven’t punched anyone yeah and I used to have a ring that had spikes on it and the time I stopped wearing it was self-inflicted pain because I actually rub my eye it’s hard being such a fashion icon we everyone suffers for their fashion then they isn’t that but it’s a pricey willing to pay right and when so I did the I thing and now I’ve gone to more smooth round things yeah I was telling one of our fans that we had you on the show and And he was like, you’re having Myles Dyer?
1:32 I’m like, yeah, you know him? He’s like, yeah, this guy was like a god back in the day. Not that you’re not now, but like on the YouTube circuit and with your Blade 376 moniker, like you were like owned it back in the day, right? Yeah, in the golden days. I just checked out on YouTube, you’re like seven million views and 30,000 subscribers.
1:49 I mean, it’s like off the charts. That’s ridiculous. Yeah, I mean, a lot of my active subscriber count is probably around 5,000 just because people come and go over the five, six years I’ve been on YouTube. And as the community has changed over the past six years, I mean, just to put it in perspective, I organized the first ever UK YouTube gathering, which was for YouTubers to come together. And the average age was maybe 25 to 30, but now it’s 15, 16 year olds.
2:15 And what year was that gathering? So that was 2007, beginning of 2007. So what happened? So YouTube changed your life? Yeah.
2:24 Yeah. That’s crazy. What was the first thing you watched on YouTube? It was the reason I joined it, which was a man named Peter Geriatric, 1927, so he was an 80-year-old man. What was the British guy that used to post about the war?
2:36 He still does. Yeah, have you ever seen this guy? Yeah, he was just this old guy that would post video. Right. Things on YouTube.
2:42 And it was on BBC News, just the hysteria of like, you know, old people are normally associated with being technophobes, but he went against that stereotype. It’s amazing. And I checked him out, and it wasn’t just his video that captured my imagination, it was the fact that people were doing video responses, so they were sharing their stories, And I was like, I called it the YouTube experience, which is like between the fabric of these videos you had interaction and it wasn’t just a site to dump video.
3:07 There was a community there. And so I did like a video, maybe 20 views and people said, I like what you had to say. And I used it to promote a film script I wrote called a word of advice and it was about the direction I thought the world was taking. And people were interested. But then what I realized was why am I using my film script as a vehicle for my ideas when I can just speak on camera.
3:30 And that’s what I did. And yeah, just years on, the quote I use again and again is progress is something for you early nights when you look over your shoulder because I wasn’t assuming to get where I was now or the experiences I just kept promoting what was good about the internet and it became like a self-fulfilled prophecy. And for that, I’m like so grateful to live in the time. You have like tons of good energy you just put out there, right? I mean, like you just, it’s all like positive, do this let’s help this yeah I’ve gone through a lot of negativity as well and last night I actually got a tweet from someone saying do you ever get bored of being that guy and which guy is that well I didn’t even ask that I just said that as long as you see change happening and for me I’ve become a lot more serious the past two years because I started really educating myself more With regards to what miles just like how the world runs The Crises that we’re facing in terms of resources population growth the government It’s all very very intense and it is I found potential solutions But as soon as you start taking that route you find you isolate yourself and the people that some of the most Subscribed people on YouTube who I am still good friends with you know, there’s been a distance and and I wouldn’t say necessarily they’ve turned their back on me, they just do not want to be associated with someone who talks serious,
4:53 Because as soon as you bring anything that is deemed political or something that’s deemed serious, that’s already not what’s gonna make a popular YouTube video. Interesting. People want cats falling off tables and stuff. YouTube mainly is a form of escapism. It’s how do you get out of the mundane reality of life?
5:10 And for me, my answer to that is by solving it. It used to be more escapism, I mean, it’s now completely changed, right? It is, and it still is changing vastly. I think in the next year, a lot of the mainstream media is gonna be very dominant online. And I think it’s why you’re seeing a lot of conflictions with stuff like the SOPA legislation and CISPA, all these internet acts, they’re trying to pass the US.
5:33 It is, because they realize that they’ve been undermined. And the example I give again and again is, if you take WikiLeaks, the New York Times and The Guardian had done deals with Junior Assange to publish these cables that were leaked. But after a while they stopped. And this is just my own hypothesis, I’m not saying this is the case. But I said that the reason I think they did stop doing it was maybe political pressure, but they realized they were shooting themselves in the foot because why would a newspaper want to publish facts for people or publish their interpretation and journalistic spin on facts when people could actually access it for free online.
6:13 And that’s how the internet works, people bypass, take the route of least resistance, and they don’t like it because the internet is cutting out the middleman across all industries. I guess you must tread a very fine line between educated and intelligent individual with valuable opinions and conspiracy theorists because if you push too far in one direction, people are just like, that guy’s a total cook. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And it’s why I think you need to talk on in terms that relate to people, because you can go up to people and say, this is what we need to do right now.
6:50 The Coney 2012 thing that went huge. A lot of people were expecting me to do a response. I just didn’t wanna add more fuel to the fire. But it went against a lot of what I believe in, which is, yes, it inspired people, but on a false premise where I came up with the belief that empathy, which is what I always am a champion for, rallying for, it’s based on a cycle of awareness and then people become aware of an issue, then they educate themselves and thus become more aware and then they educate themselves more and it’s a cycle.
7:22 You talked about this at your recent talk, right? Yeah, I did. Awareness, education cycle, right? Exactly, and with Coney, people became aware and then when they educate themselves, they realized that it’s a very complicated issue and they realized they became aware that actually they couldn’t do that much. Because for me, and it’s not to condemn charities, I think in a lot of cases, charity is a form of apathy because people just pass the money and that’s what they’ve done.
7:49 Well, if you look with Africa, like something like Nate, it just does more harm than good, a lot of these charities, right? Or was it Bob, who is it? Bob Gelof, who does the big Africa aid concerts? Yeah, Bob Gelof does. Yeah, I mean, he’s great, but I mean, a lot of times giving them aid is the wrong thing to do, right?
8:05 It is and it isn’t. I think it’s better than completely cutting off, but I think there are better ways of doing it. Because I do an event called Stickade every year, which is a 24-hour non-stop live show. It’s like a telephone for online to raise money for UNICEF. I’ve done it seven years now, but I was invited to a talk with UNICEF. They were just giving talks and Patty Ashdown, one of the old leaders of the Liberal Democrats, was giving to talk and they opened it to questions and there weren’t really that many questions but mine was when are we going to start putting scientists at the forefront of our decision making because as far as I’m concerned it’s just full of spokesmen regardless if their intentions are good or not people can have good intentions all the time it doesn’t mean what they’re doing is effective and he was like I don’t know what you mean and I said I could name you two technologies now which have been available for 30 years which could eradicate most family in the world and he went also what is it and I said it’s hydroponics which is the growing of food in dishes and in water, effectively, solution.
9:06 I use it in Antarctica a lot. And the other is vertical farms, which are skyscrapers, which every layer, every floor is a different field. And there’s less space being wasted. You can optimize the amount of sunlight that comes in, the temperature, use hydroponics for the solution. So you’re not using chemicals, you’re actually optimizing nature for plants.
9:28 And I said, if you have those two things implemented, you could feed the whole world. And he said, I’d never heard of that before. And I didn’t say this, but that is effectively my point. So you’re saying politicians should be more, should be scientists? Yeah, completely.
9:41 Hey guys, sorry to interrupt you. Brian, I heard a pop in the mic. Can you just check it? Yeah, we’re good, we’re good, we’re good. You know, when you talk about doing this charity, like you do this 24 hour piece and I read that you’ve done it, you’ve done it for seven years.
9:51 I mean, how old were you when you did that? Because like when I’m in my 20s, not a lot of people say, what can I do to give back? I mean, that’s a big thing. So, you know, how did that happen? It was just very trivial.
10:02 Again, it’s this thing of, I didn’t know where it was going to go. I didn’t know how scalable it was going to be. So I just set up my laptop in my bedroom at university. I thought I’ll do a 24 hour thing. See what 24 hours is like and take it from there.
10:13 And about 30,000 people tuned in, 500 pounds. So it was awesome. And I just did it year on year and it’s just grown. And now it’s in. What did you do for 24 hours?
10:24 Just sit there and tell jokes. And is it just one way information flow? No. So there was a chat room and people could go on video as well. Um, and it was just, just chilling, hanging out with people.
10:35 But then you and you, it’s got crazy cause, um, I then did it, my parents house of a friend, I then did it at university. And now it’s, um, at a television studio, Ravensbourne, um, university in, um, next to the O2, um, and one and a half million tuning every year now. One and a half million. Wow. And you’re, it’s you in a webcam.
10:52 Uh, so now it’s proper broadcast, like a whole like broadcast room and television cameras and and now I have guests and this year we’re having different people host different segments. How do you stay awake? The pressure of failure that if people are donating money you cannot step away. Okay so it’s like 7 a.m. to 7 a.m. so it’s like the first few years it was like 9 a.m. till 9 a.m. but it was actually easier to do midday to midday but it’s a mind. You don’t drink coffee? No I don’t because you get the crash. Okay And actually last year, I thought it was this year, it’s gone so quickly, it was last September, I had maybe four mouthfuls of food in the 24 hours because every hour there’s a five minute break, but by the time I’ve got to the bathroom and unzip my flies, it’s time to go back on and yeah, it’s intense.
11:43 Would you say that you’re someone who’s always been concerned about the state of the world? I’ve always cared and I think my education has allowed me to understand what I can do constructively to help the world. So yeah, I think everyone, the whole thing of empathy, I think everyone is a caring person. When you have people like trolls online that are giving hate, it’s because they’re faced with a disconnect. They don’t realize the effect they’re having on someone else.
12:12 My true belief is if there was total education across the world, there would be no more hurt or pain inflicts on each other because people would know the consequences of their actions. And so, especially in the past two years since I’ve been researching stuff, I’ve cared a lot more. There seems to be a lot of activism coming from the youth. But I have a bone pick sometimes. We had a politician on the show, and people were like, oh, fuck politicians, they’re not doing anything.
12:39 And I was like, OK, you don’t vote. You make a lot of buying decisions in your day that help these bad corporations. I don’t see you actively doing anything except for complaining about the state of the world. So sometimes when I see these young people on YouTube and stuff, they want to jump behind the Coney 2012, maybe without being educated. I just wonder what are they actually doing?
12:58 With their buying dollars as well, what are they actually doing? See, I’m conflicted with this point because I kind of see that. And again, I think it’s if you give them the tools of how to spread awareness and educate and be a problem solver, I think they will. It’s just at the moment people are like, what can we do? And so if Saint comes together, and the thing with Coney, it was a bandwagon.
13:18 People felt shunned if they, or bad if they didn’t, I tweeted the video before I saw it. Has that died now? Uh, it’s probably still bubbling about. Okay. But after the director got arrested, did that kind of crash it?
13:31 And then- Why did he get arrested? I didn’t even know about that. You don’t? He was like publicly nude in my hometown of San Diego, like running around until he was arrested or something. He had like a breakdown, but he was like running around naked.
13:41 Crazy. Yeah. But I mean, and then also people were educated and then they found out, okay, Kony wasn’t necessarily the threat they said he was, but I don’t know, is it still going on? because the video itself was beautiful and horrible at the same time. I mean, you had to give them credit because for 30 minutes it really drew you in, didn’t it?
13:57 It did, yeah. It was good propaganda. You don’t want to say anything about it, do you? No, no, I’m happy to. For me, they tried with good intent and I don’t think, although there were negative criticisms you can make of Coney, I don’t think it’s cause had a negative impact.
14:15 The only thing, well actually it’s, I guess I’m going to contradict myself here. It probably made a lot of young people feel desensitized to this sort of thing or, oh, I was tricked, but then that in itself is a learning process. So like when people are proven wrong in life, that’s not a bad thing. It’s enlightenment, you know? And this is a big cultural thing.
14:33 People are stubborn. People don’t want to be proven wrong. That has made me have the biggest patience in the world now because I realize if I’m proved, if I’m told I’m wrong, that’s not helpful. But if you prove I’m wrong, I can now develop as an individual and move in the right direction. Interesting to say, because Brian and I were having lunch a while back and we were speaking about the very same thing.
14:51 I was telling Brian, one of the things I’ve enjoyed most about life is like being shown something that I believed was one way and then shown that it’s actually in reality completely the other way. It’s like quite, I feel quite a good view on growth. Yeah, I feel quite a lot. I mean, Nick and I trained Jiu-Jitsu and there’s a famous Brazilian guy in New York. His name is Hanzo Gracie and he’s got a picture on his wall of when one guy broke his arm in a fight and he says, you learn nothing from a win.
15:14 That’s what he says. And I just thought about that the other day. Like you learn nothing from a win. So when you’re proving that you’re wrong, I guess that’s when the learning curve climbs. So- Should we break his arm now?
15:24 Yeah, let’s do it. Which one? Cause I write with this one. You know, I want to, I heard a little bit more about you and then I want to talk about the USP. Do you call it that?
15:35 Yeah, I guess so. It’s a universal solutions project. But we met Myles because of your employment by channelflip.com. And so you’ve gone from like kind of YouTube, what do you call yourself? A YouTube what?
15:48 Well, my job title is YouTube Marketing Jedi. Okay. Which I kind of did as a joke and they were like, nope, that’ll do. That is probably the coolest joke I’ve ever had in the world. It’s pretty cool.
15:56 So you started off just like an active interest in YouTube and then you got the community involved. You started doing these 24 hour pieces. And then I think when we met at your offices, you were like, you kind of evolved into this role. Yeah, I was able to do it on a professional basis. And by then I was sort of out of my interest for the YouTube community.
16:12 I hadn’t gone away, I just played a less significant role because there’s a product cycle on YouTube and mine had expired in a way. Had it? Yeah, I think you learn that YouTube’s nothing more than a platform because you could get a million views on a video or a hundred views, but ultimately are you doing what you enjoy? Actually the views don’t really, they don’t make a huge difference except for the amount of people I guess you inspire and help, so. Okay, speak, what’s on your mind?
16:39 Well dude, you would have chopped your armour for a few more YouTube views. I think views relative wise are important you want to see progression I think that’s important but I think that if you reach out to 10 people and you make a significant impact that’s awesome okay that’s cool so that is cool so um now you’re just kind of using all your YouTube knowledge we’re now in a professional way and just helping people promote their channels and things like yeah and the company workforce amazing and I enjoy it which I I think is a blessing. Not many people can say they enjoy what they do and it means in my free time, I’m then able to be intense and do things that would drive me insane.
17:20 You must be working 24 hours a day, dude, because we saw you in the offices where you’re doing your job, I’m guessing, for eight, 10 hours a day. And then at night, you go and film your own videos and question the day and all that stuff, right? Yeah, I don’t stop, really. And I’ll take my laptop to bed until I’m so exhausted I will just pass out. Do you ever unplug for a few days?
17:37 I get asked this a lot. I think I do, but I always do it. So like my band I’m in, I was a drummer for, but I’m now being able to be the vocalist, heavy metal band. What’s the name of the band? It’s called Scamata Theory. So Facebook.com forward slash Scamata Theory. And writing the lyrics for it, it’s all about what directions the world takes.
17:58 So although it’s a nice way to unwind, it’s still constructive. And it’s actually the ethos of the charity event I do, that you can do what you enjoy, but in a context that helps other people, and I think anyone can do that. So there were chefs on there, there was people that built stuff for robot wars, there were video bloggers, there were bands doing what they normally do, get an exposure from it, and also helping people around the world that don’t have a voice and don’t have the necessities of life, and I think that that’s not just for charity, that can be anything, so.
18:29 Myles, what was the biggest thing you, in all the years you’ve spent working with YouTube, what was the biggest thing you’ve learned about people? Um, I’ve learned not to give up on people actually, cause I’ve had a lot of people that have hated on me and I will never give up on them. Um, so that, uh, and another thing, which I think is people generally is it’s that phrase of you can’t please all people all the time. Definitely can’t, um, Brian said something I found very interesting last week.
18:57 Um, he was referring to, uh, ice tea statement that people always hate up. They never hate down. And I was thinking about that a lot. That was very cool. Something to kind of internalize as long as you don’t take it the wrong way.
19:05 But yeah, people always hate up. So, you know, if you’re, if you’re getting hate, I’m not a fact, you have to get some hate if you’re doing something right. Do you ever think of it that way? Yeah, well, I did a video called Dealing with the Hate and my main point with that was that you should take comfort if someone throws hate your way because they- You’re doing something right. Or, and they think you’re significant because they want to let you know that they exist.
19:27 They want you- That’s a heating up again. No, that’s interesting. We had a guy that was commenting on our videos like five videos ago and he just recently posted something. He’s like, I used to think you guys were shit But now I’m really liking your videos. He’s like, you know, keep it going, guys.
19:40 I saw that today. That’s progression. When you say you don’t give up on people, you don’t give up with people in general or you don’t give up on even those specific people that hate on you? It depends, really. I mean, if it’s a comment, there’s not really much I can do apart from keep doing what I’m doing and hopefully they’ll change their mind.
19:59 There are some times where I will leave a comment on their channel or a mail and go, I’m sorry, you saw it this way and I’ll explain myself. Actually, that’s probably saying that’s a weakness of mine is I never wanna be misunderstood. So even growing up with my family, you used to tell my parents when I did strong drugs and they hated me admitting it and I said, look, the reason I’m telling you is so you have no reason to suspect I’m doing anything else. That’s the only reason I did it, so yeah.
20:26 That’s cool. Wow, I find that with YouTube we get, since it’s anonymous or more anonymous than Facebook, that we get a lot more casual. We don’t get that much hate at all. It’s like 2% but we get those comments where I was on Facebook, since there’s usually an identity behind it, it’s much less. Is that the case?
20:44 With you, at least. I don’t know, really. I think it differs from person to person. It’s a good point, Brian, I think, yeah. I mean, what’s your experience with it?
20:55 Yeah, I found that with Facebook, it’s mostly positive, because there’s also someone that’s kind of, with YouTube, a lot of the names are, you know, aliases and stuff, you know, Blade376 and stuff, and obviously Facebook didn’t start that way. And then the emboldened people, hey, for sure. I also think that’s changing, though. I think that used to be the easy way to take the pot charts, but I don’t know. It just feels like most people online, they think before they type now, which they might not have in the past.
21:16 Yeah, especially with these acts coming in. I mean, you’re not gonna be online, anonymous online for much longer, I mean. Well, that’s the reason that I was not quick to jump on saying YouTube was easier, because I think it is currently, but for me, Facebook, people seem to not worry so much about their names being there. You hear stories of people being arrested for stuff they’ve said on Facebook now. Apparently employers in the US, like 80 or 85% of them do a full internet background check.
21:44 That’s heavy. It is. I mean, they’re building something, I don’t know where in the States right now, but they’re building facilities like 20,000 square foot where they will log every email or instant message sent and sift through it. And there’s complications at the moment because if they want to do you for being suspicious or anything related to terrorism, they will alert your service provider and you have so many days or weeks it is to respond but the service provider doesn’t necessarily tell you so you have no way of appealing.
22:17 And the agencies over there being questioned and they said, well, this is what we need to do for security, that the government is very scared at the moment of the internet because it’s so free flowing and it’s allowing society to evolve in the right direction. When you say the right direction, what does that mean? So complete transparency. So if you look at WikiLeaks, the video that was released where Julian Assange had that video of the Iraqi civilians being shot to pieces by a helicopter, the argument is it’s bad for national security because now it will annoy the people out there who we’re fighting, but then it’s a chicken and egg thing.
22:54 If that hadn’t been done in the first place, then that video had never been released. So they’d go, but it has been, so we need to keep it cut. Well, no, the sooner we start holding people accountable, the sooner we’ll stop these atrocities from happening. And- There’s that quote by JFK when he says the very, I think the very word secrecy is repugnant in a free and open society. And I really agree with you on that, Myles.
23:18 I think the sooner governments are transparent. What was our life? Yannick Nald was speaking about that as well. He was just saying, well, I guess just transparency where you can see what every politician has voted on It’s so transparent, I guess, in Norway, he was saying where everyone’s tax return is online. You know?
23:34 But it’s even like stuff is available, but it’s the culture that people have. So when people are voting for a politician, they’re not voting for the person they’re voting. Are they a Democrat or Republican? And they’re not looking at their voting record or anything like that. And I think that the elections we’re seeing in the states at the moment is probably gonna be one of the last two party elections.
23:54 I mean, it was in the UK, it’s changing now. People want to vote on policies and not politicians because all of it’s a compromise. You were talking about Ron Paul earlier, you’re a fan? I have to be careful because I don’t agree with everything he says. I want him to win the nomination for the Republican, the GOP candidacy, just so he can be on the debate with Obama.
24:16 Because I think that’s gonna be a much more interesting debate. He’ll talk about the National Defense Authorization Act, which allows the American government to arrest any citizen without evidence, without trial, indefinitely, and torture him, which is outrageous and people aren’t talking about it. What do you think about that Brian? I wanna know a few more facts about it but there are a lot of issues right now with what the US has kind of gone a little bit too far when it comes to combating terrorism and I think you have to challenge it and you have to get the debate going and you have to get the transparency.
24:45 Right. Yeah. I mentioned that act to someone whose opinion I really respect and he’s a doctor of philosophy and he said it’s a good thing, only the terrorists need to be afraid and I just, I mean to me that’s a real disconnect because the government isn’t necessarily going to know who’s a terrorist and who’s not. I mean, they’re just going to choose someone and say, we have reason to believe that he’s doing something we don’t like. Let’s just chuck him in a van, take him down to get more and have our way with him.
25:13 It’s just mind-blowing. I just don’t think anyone’s been reminded of what a police day can be like and how bad it is to have Miranda rights and all of these things. Do you think the US is moving towards a police state? I mean, obviously with a lot of these laws on the books, they can do these things. Now they’re probably not necessarily doing them, or we will find out about it, but then you need the WikiLeaks and people to make sure it just stays ultra-transparent.
25:34 Like, I don’t think anyone can credibly argue that that helicopter video that he released shouldn’t have been released. I mean- But unfortunately, there’s Bradley Manning, who is the U.S. soldier who has been accused of releasing those documents. He’s, like, he’s 22, 23, actually might be a bit older, but he’s been kept in solitary confinement. His conditions are bad, but he did breach security.
25:55 Yeah, I’m not denying it, but then what is the process of whistle blowing? Like supposedly if he’d done it under the acts of whistle, I don’t know the facts, but what sort of society are we having where like? This is the guy that basically gave Julian Assange all the information from WikiLeaks and he was treated really- Allegedly. Really, allegedly. He was treated really poorly for a while, like in solitary confinement and they wouldn’t give him medical access.
26:18 So I think that’s changed a bit. Do you think, so with the, it’s SOPA and CISPA, right? Those are the names of the two CISTA acts. So they had SOPA and PIPA, and now they’ve got SISPA. They keep reintroducing new, like as soon as one gets taken down, they’ll write up another one.
26:33 So the new one, SISPA is about, so SOPA was about if you upload a piece of footage to YouTube and you don’t own the rights, they could shut down YouTube, which is ludicrous. So the companies were against it. But then you look at SISPA, which is basically saying the US government can have any of your personal information from companies, which a lot of them probably doing anyway but what this law will mean is the companies cannot be sued by the people so people are not protected.
27:02 But do you think that the internet just by its very nature is do you think it’s ever possible to control it? Do you think that let’s say every let’s say the US government wanted to pass a whole bunch of acts and all of them put into place I’m sure like the hackers would find a way to circumvent that yeah and this is where it gets in sort of unknown territory of what like Anonymous and doing I’m not sure because it’s like the more resistance does that then put the government in a position to shut it down and can they I mean there was a case in Egypt when they were shutting down the internet for the when the revolution was happening in Egypt and Vodafone were approached and Vodafone were given a choice by the government they said right you’re either gonna shut down the internet now or we’re gonna do it ourselves and Vodafone was in a tough position position because if they shut it down it means they could then And at any point, turn the internet back on within a matter of hours, I believe.
27:58 But if the government shut it down using just brute force, it would take weeks to repair. So what choice do you go with? Interesting. Especially when the government tells you to shut the internet down. On a lighter note, can you tell us about the universal solutions?
28:12 Yeah. And actually, this is a good segue, because I do like talking about politics, and it’s why I’m sort of a bit iffy with talking about Ron Paul and Obama and the policies, is politics is not the solution in the traditional stance. And even in terms of, we’re saying how a lot of young people are desensitized, it’s why I’ve put forward the Universal Solutions Project as a solution. So do you want me to explain it? Yeah, how old are you?
28:38 25. Wow, that’s crazy, man. It’s the last time I’ve experienced it in 25 years. Right, that is amazing. So do people come up to you and say, Myles, what can I do?
28:47 Yes. So that’s the problem with the Universal Solutions Project is I need to build the system, the infrastructure, which I can explain at the moment, but I have hundreds of people saying, what can I do, what can I do? And until it’s built, I can’t, and then they get bored and go off. And so yeah, it’s a bit frustrating. So tell us what it is and how you came up with the idea and just like the genesis of the Universal Solutions project.
29:12 Well, I came up with it after, I joined the Zeitgeist Movement for a couple of years, which had done quite a few big movies. And I looked at the Venus Project, which is run by a man called Jacque Fresco. He’s a 95-year-old man who works in Venus, Florida. I’ve heard of him. I watch a few of his videos, it’s just incredible.
29:28 Remark, he’s 95 working every day. He’s designed something called a resource-based economy, which is by using technology you can free mankind from scarcity and everyone has everything available. Conversation for another time. But he met Einstein when he was 16, and he was on Larry King in 1974 saying, in the future we’ll have an online database for music, We’ll have flat screen TVs, automated cars. You said this stuff in 1974.
29:52 74 on the Larry King show. And he said, we have geothermal energy, which can have like from one volcano, you can have enough energy for one and a half thousand years. And at 95, he’s not been disheartened. And that’s what’s inspired me to keep going. It’s why I don’t give up now because I realize he’s not going to see what he wants to happen.
30:09 But if you do nothing, nothing will happen, which is his main point. So he really inspired me with this because he taught me about educating people in terms that they understand. So he joined a fraction of the KKK and within two months he dissolved it by talking on their terms. I might recommend anyone. That is just fantastic.
30:30 Yeah. What’s the best way to find out about this guy? So just search Jacque Fresco. Jacque Fresco, okay. Yeah, I’ll leave you with this guy.
30:34 I’m really excited to hear your thoughts on a resource-based economy, Brian. Yeah, I wanna check it out. It took me about two years to get my head around it because there was a lot of disagreements, a lot of, I got a lot of hate for supporting it like being called a communist and that. And it’s been a hard two years for me because whenever someone brings an idea into the world, it starts with one person, always does. So they have to transform the world.
30:55 So like the Wright brothers, when they designed the first ever plane, scientists at the time said it’s impossible to fly. So they went to their own garage, did it, and proved them wrong. It’s like- One of my favorite expressions is there’s nothing as powerful as an idea whose time has come. I really like that. Yeah, I love it too.
31:11 It’s very empowering. Yeah, yeah. So you realize this has to be an uphill battle, what you’re doing? completely. So the Universal Solutions Project is non-discriminatory in terms of what matters to people. So there are three stages. I’ll go over them very quickly.
31:26 Take your time man. The first stage is to create an online database of information. The second is to enable audience acquisition and the third is to create tools for spreading awareness. So the first stage is an online database and what it is it’s like a wiki site and a lot of people criticize this idea saying we’ve got Wikipedia or we’ve got Yahoo answers they’re both good sites but this is combining the two concepts so that you relay information to people in a way that relates to them so each page would be a problem page effectively at the top of the page you’d have a question why is unemployment going up why are people dying of hunger why is there this particular disease why do people die in car crashes and underneath it you have a paragraph explaining what the root cause of the problem is and the point I make again and again is if you think of any law that exists in the world today what does it actually mean it means the government has not found a way to deal with the problem in the first place it’s patchwork and actually if you look in civilizations over the history of mankind everyone has collapsed because of over complication so what you do is you enforce laws which means you now need bureaucracy and you need people to enforce those laws which cost money so you need more tax, which puts more pressure on the civilization, which needs more laws, more enforcement. And it’s a spiral when you’re seeing that in society today.
32:48 This is why you like Ron Paul. He wants to abolish the IRS and all sorts of other kind of stuff. Yeah. And again, I don’t know if I can fully support it because I’m ignorant of that sort of thing. So like political debate, I’m not very good at because I just don’t buy the system completely. But no, no, it’s a fair point. He does want to abolish a lot, but I don’t know if what he’s doing is the way of it working because capitalism doesn’t cater for the resources on the planet because it just wants to strip all the resources it’s about consumption and as opposed to living with the carrying capacity of the planet which I can get to in a moment but um so you have the first paragraph root causes and the example I gave to a primary school was if you were working at a toy factory and you had all the toys coming off the production line you you put them in the boxes and then if they started coming off broken, you’d fix them, put them in a box, fix them, put them in a box.
33:37 But until you fix the machine, you’re then gonna save a lot of time. But you translate that to the way we live in the world today. You wouldn’t have that happen. You wouldn’t automate cars that could eradicate, I think it’s like 94% of all car accidents, because what about the service industry? There’s money in there being problems like planned obsolescence.
33:58 It’s why engineers are asked to make stuff break, et cetera. Jacque Fresco told me that the first ever light bulb, which if it’s refuted, fair enough, but I could believe it. He said the first ever light bulb lasted about 100 years, and it’s because engineers are paid to make stuff break. Well, I mean, there are conspiracy theories which claim that the engine that can run on water actually exists, but the oil companies have just bought up all the patents.
34:22 I don’t know if I believe it, but I mean, I’m sure there’s some truth to it. Because there’s cases where car companies have, they had 40 car parts and they didn’t recall it for a long period of time and the reason why is they have an equation, some people remember it from Fight Club but it is a reality, which is what is the cost of paying compensation if people die and get injured? What is the cost of recalling it? And if the cost of people paying compensation to people who’ve died and that is less than the recall, they will…
34:52 Don’t pay the compensation. This is something Brian and I, we always disagree on. I personally am inherently distrustful of corporations, but Brian’s like, I think he believes that corporations are responsible for a lot of the progress. That is true. And that is true because competition encourages people to find the best ideas, but actually they then end up concealing patterns and keeping ideas themselves.
35:19 It was completely open source you would be able that progress would be a lot faster yeah I mean transparency will just get us further online but it’s almost like the innovators dilemma you almost need someone else to come along to get to the next level right he wants to cannibalize their income and no one wants a can and that’s what and it’s the status it’s not the people again politicians good good good integrity and corporations may have good integrity but the system doesn’t allow you to follow your moral compass because if you do the most ethical thing you’re gonna lose active because inefficiency is actually profit it’s like cost efficiency and stuff like that and I’m sorry I keep going off in different directions so you start with it like an online information yes so you have so you’ve got the title which is a question you have the root cause and then you have all the solutions based on research not political opinion explained very simply so if people want to click geothermal energy And then it tells them about that that that’s what education should be people go. I understand that also What’s that about and people go on their own journey of self-discovery and and that’s how the website works so the second stage is then to Enable audience acquisition and what you do is you build a database which I started doing for charities and activist groups because again The integrity of the people in it is good, but the system won’t allow them to function together because of competition
36:40 It’s a charity groups charities will Sean Penn says that he’s in Haiti right now Right and he’s like the doctors without borders and the Red Cross and then all these charities are down there and like they’re fighting With each other and they can’t even get him to do things sometimes and he’s down there solo They’re all fighting for the same cause but they do have their own agendas sometimes whether it’s religious base or anything like this And so what my plan does is I can go up to any charity organization and say look at the website Are there any problems that are missing any solutions and what I’m allowing to happen is them to work together without compromising? Where they are in terms of a business and organization, so there’s no mergers no people losing jobs They’re actually all helping indirectly and so that’s the second stage And then the third stage is to create tools for spreading awareness, and that is effectively Anyone you you me anyone could go on the street with an iPad not putting up posters about Coney and one issue Which a lot of people would turn away from not asking would you like to donate your time and money to an issue?
37:40 Which may not relate to someone’s own hierarchy because if you lost someone to cancer you’d be more willing to donate to that if you Have an animal more willing to donate you say excuse me What matters to you and people will be taken back But I’ve done it and it works and people got and people start thinking and people go well this matters to me And then you bring up the site and you go this is why it’s happening I never saw it that way and these are why why is this not being done? And that is true inspiration people start questioning why and what you’ll see is on all these question time panels now Which I can’t watch anymore and these rallies. It’s not gonna be slogan shouted. It’s people actually saying this what needs to be done and therefore my belief is with the Universal Solutions Project is if you Increase the education awareness of a general population across the world Government becomes irrelevant because they have to be more intelligent to keep control It’s such an incredible way to look at it.
38:34 You’re like inspiring activism. You’re almost like promoting people to be more active and more educated. It’s not telling people to be more active. It’s once they become aware and it’s what it comes down to. The only reason I am doing what I am today is because of what I know.
38:47 That’s what we all are about. The example I gave on my lecture I gave was something called Reading Genius. I asked a room of 600 people, has anyone heard of it and no one had? They were blown away when I said this. Reading Genius?
38:58 It’s called Reading Genius. edstrature and it can teach you to read up to 100 pages a minute with total recall and what it does it retrains your brain because when you’re young and you’re in school you learn to read with an inner monologue so you’re actually reading the words as if out loud but in your head so that’s at a certain pace as you should be reading it as in taking information and so it comes with music which slows down your brainwaves which is that of a child it’s why they absorb information a lot more and it builds up your confidence with reading and therefore when you start reading faster you read more books and it becomes a self-practice. And you’ve used this program? Yeah so I didn’t finish the course I read about 30 pages a minute but is amazing because the average person me included one page a minute I read a 300 page novel within 10 minutes before my lesson and I remember in the class I said oh isn’t there a quite halfway down page 53 and it was spot-on and I freaked myself out.
39:58 Everyone thought I was a weirdo. Did you do this on Supercam? I did actually. Yeah, for crazy. The same thing. We did speed read, yeah. I mean you go down with your hand on each page. Do you still use that? You scan for words? No, I don’t. I like reading my inner lock monologue. I read really slow. I’m like, and then the dog jumped off. Yeah, but there is leisure reading and it’s about the back, because people go, what if I like to read?
40:15 It’s like, well you can. It’s just that if you were driving a car and you could go 10 miles per hour or 60 on a motorway so it’s legal this metaphor people would rather go faster it’s your brain can go so much faster but but then the question is sorry to finish is why is this not the questions are why did I not know about this before why is this not being taught in the system how can I do it and people want to learn and people and I don’t really promote the book because it’s quite expensive I don’t want to tell people what to buy but the response has been phenomenal. And that can exist on anything in society today.
40:51 So with if the universal solutions project becomes ultimately successful, what will happen? Like what is the end goal or in your mind, people become self governing, people start voting on policies, people become scientists, because because on themselves because they get themselves it comes up a lot lately that everyone’s a scientist when you’re when you’re a child and then it gets crushed out of you by the education system, which I agree in a lot of ways and I actually realised only the past few weeks because when growing up I thought scientists were cold people that didn’t care about emotion. It’s kind of, a lot of religious rhetoric may say that but actually it’s the most ethical thing and it’s weird because it’s like who’s more of a hero? Is it the fireman who goes into a burning building and saves someone from the fire? Or is it the scientist that designs something that never let it happen in the first place? And when you think of a culture who gets the most congratulations.
41:44 It’s the guy, it’s the actor who played the fireman in the movie. Yeah, it’s even that, yeah, it’s a step further. And it’s not me, again, I’m not criticising, and this is the problem, when I start going on my train of thoughts of criticising in the system, I get a lot of slack because it’s called just world theory. People like to believe they live in a just world. So I did a video recently called What a Waste of Human Potential, and it was about a guy who I saw on the street wearing a golf-cell jacket.
42:11 And I said that he has the potential to be so much more. People going, how dare you say that? He may enjoy what he’s doing and all that. Perhaps he does. All I’m saying is I believe in a society where people don’t have to just stand there.
42:23 Everyone can become scientists and contribute to society, but the nature of the system is there will always be the odd one out. There will always be people that have to do the worst jobs which don’t need to be done. You said, are you claiming that’s an inherent problem with the current system? completely. Okay. Have you ever read any of the works of Anne Rand? I haven’t, no.
42:42 She, um, she has, uh, basically what she’s saying is let’s not worry about a heaven after we die. Let’s try to make a heaven here on earth. I’ve heard, yeah, I’ve heard that. And, um, exactly right. Yeah, I really like the idea of the universal solutions project. I really hope it works. Me too. The scope is huge. Yeah, and it scares me, but meeting Jacque Fresco, this 95 year old man, it made me realize, and the fact he’s not bitter, even Ron Paul actually, he’d been going on with the same thing for 30 years.
43:07 He’s been, it’s that thing. First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, and then you win. Who’s caught with Gandhi’s call, right? Yeah, Gandhi, yeah. And I’m in it for the long run, but.
43:18 Do you ever feel, I mean, if this succeeds, or even if it doesn’t succeed, but if you’d actually started, you are taking on the governments of the world. I mean, are you not worried about dudes in a band pitching up and throwing you inside? Does that not scare you? A lot of people ask me that. My parents are quite worried.
43:36 My mum is more, she’s more of keep your head in a bubble. But my belief is if Satan’s gonna burst that bubble, I’d rather know about it and do something about it. I think my method is, it’s not like WikiLeaks where it’s illegally getting information, which is debatable. It’s not civil disobedience of protest and being violent. It is orchestrating information that is already there in a legal form.
44:03 So I think I’m safer than if I did any of the other mediums. There may be challenges, but I like this idea. Yeah, it’s amazing. I do believe that if everyone becomes self-aware or aware that people will be self-governing, I really do. And I don’t know what you guys were talking about so far earlier.
44:20 I mean, that thing got shut down fast, didn’t it? And it was because all the people spoke and basically all the senators and congressmen heard everyone freaking out and like, okay, we’re not gonna, it was almost as if it went to a popular vote. Because everyone freaked out so much because everyone was educated and the internet, I guess by definition, they were educated about it because it was on the internet. And you’ve got to be careful with mob rule, but I think mob rule becomes irrelevant if everyone has access to the same information.
44:43 It’s that thing, isn’t it? If everyone had access, you know, people don’t like to be in the know-how, people like gossip because people don’t want to be left out. So if there’s a website where whenever there was a problem, they go, I’ll go to it. I think it’d be a talking point at the dinner table and all that. But the problem I face is I need people that can help me build the site first And I wish I could do it as a job, really.
45:03 I can’t. I guess you need funding, like anything else. But charities want me to come in and talk to them, but I don’t think, because it challenges all aspects of establishment, which is what my UK tour was about. It was, it challenges charity, education, because technically you don’t need to be in debt of hundreds of thousands of dollars when you can just get access for free online. And the education system’s flawed in itself.
45:28 The thing I go on about is how you condemn on for the rest of their life just because they can’t regurgitate information in a two-hour exam. That is priceless. If they could do a podcast or audio or coursework and they have a lot to contribute to society, let them do it, don’t condemn them and make it so they struggle just because they can’t do that. Yeah, you are challenging everything, aren’t you? You’re taking on one organization, you’re taking on everything.
45:50 And then there’s the government and then there’s even activism, a lot of activist this group’s a very one sort of topic focused. I mean, the Zeitgeist Movement I left, I’m still a part of their train of thought and I still support them and people criticize me saying, why have you left it? And I said, well, ironically, it’s what the Zeitgeist Movement advocates, which is not being a part of a label, because as soon as you label yourself as a part of any organization, yeah, you’re defined by that.
46:18 Can you summarize what the Zeitgeist Movement is for either people that are listening that don’t know, or for me? Yeah, so I’ve read, I’ve watched a bit of the films. And, but yeah, so there was, there was three movies. The first one was what all of them were done by a guy called Peter Joseph, who was a percussionist. He was doing a percussion piece and wanted some video.
46:37 So it was about religion, the financial system and 9-11 where it was an inside job or not. It got huge online on Google video before YouTube. I’m not a huge supporter of that particular film. I think it definitely made me ask questions. What I believe and it’s completely irrelevant because I didn’t think 9-11 religion is that important.
46:56 I think people can adhere to religion. And actually with conspiracy theories, my point is if you have transparency, there will no longer be conspiracy theories because conspiracy and discussion just waste time. If the information’s just available, we can then get on with the real issues. But the second and third movie was promoting something called The Venus Project, which I’ve already mentioned to Jacque Fresco. They’ve sort of gone their own separate ways.
47:19 They support each other still, but they want to do their own things. And so the Zeitgeist Movement is just promoting a resource-based economy and trying to be active. But I’ve tried to get them on board with the Universal Solutions Project, and a lot of them do, but the movement as a whole will not jump on board with it, which is a shame. And you’re waiting yourself to get, like you said, more technology or get your infrastructure set up. I saw you gave a talk recently on Z-Day, right?
47:45 That was, yeah, that was at the Zeitgeist Day. That’s at the Zeitgeist Day in London. When was that? So that was March 13th, I think. I’m not sure.
47:53 And you were saying a lot of people come up to you afterwards and are like, Myles, what can I do? And you said, I wanna get the infrastructure in place before I sign you up. Yeah. So what do you need to get that infrastructure in place? I need people that can design a wiki site, which a lot of people can do, but I also want someone who can organize the team because I did start it up last year, but then people were like, so this is how you do a wiki site, Myles, now can you do it?
48:16 And it’s not that I don’t think I’m too good be doing that job is my role is inspiring and spreading awareness like that’s my job exactly and I’d rather other people and we’re starting to put a team together and we had people from I think over like 30 countries people translation teams a lot who were in the zeitgeist movement you know and people ask questions what about places where they don’t have internet well each page will be able to be printed into a flyer like the realms of possibility just remarkable what’s it cost to run with Wikipedia every year I know they get a lot of donations and yeah staff and I’m not sure really is it huge I mean is it not sure was it like ten million dollars or three million dollars it’s not that big though is it was really impressed the way they switched it off in protest of those of pepper and was it super what was the other one so they say it was it was so super and pepper yeah and they just turn it off yeah one day 24 hours really searching for someone Wikipedia and there was it came up and said imagine internet without Wikipedia. But they’re not doing it with CISPA and the reason why is it puts favor in corporations it just basically means they’re less liable now if they give government information because every time the government approach companies they have to go well is this legal are we gonna get sued so the government are now gonna say just give it over we’ll give
49:33 You money and you won’t get sued. It’s so tricky I mean if you’re running a corporation and the government came to you and said we need their information this is the government that taxes you and can potentially shut you down I mean What would you do Tom’s go fuck himself really? Yeah, when you’re in when you’re in prison. Yeah It’s tough though, everyone’s hostage by the system even the politicians it was like they were talking about The whole issue of this building they’re building in the States to sift through emails and they go but Is that is that really important when Obama’s in charge, but they’re saying if Obama’s making decisions based on information that’s put on his desk Who’s really in control? Yeah, you know, this is something I was thinking about in the past week, Brian, like you something to do with them politics So you you say if you don’t vote like you don’t count In paraphrasing me, but yeah Take on that viewpoint. Go ahead man. Hit me. Do you really think That any system that allowed a guy like George W Bush who let’s be honest I mean there’s a great president Let’s be honest the guy looks like you see that he acts and looks like he just swung off a tree He struggles to string sentences together. Do you really believe that that dude is running the biggest most powerful country in the world?
50:51 Then you go back to your conspiracy theories, which you know aren’t really based in anything So just to point the finger and say our corporations are screwing us. My boy doesn’t count I mean, he was popularly elected by the US I mean a president only has so much to me about the system that that guy was elected Or you can have… So I don’t know if it’s conspiracy theory though, because I think he’s just asking questions. Well, okay. Or maybe not.
51:13 If you… No, I’m just interested. To me, that’s indicative of the fact that the system is broken. Like a tech guy. I mean, if we had a guy like Myles elected, then I’d be like, wow, this thing is working.
51:22 But then that turns into apathy though. I mean, like I get that question, but then you’re like, oh, it doesn’t work. I don’t want to be a part of this. I’m not going to do anything. And then when that turns to apathy, then I don’t get it.
51:31 Then I’m like, okay, well, what are you doing? You’re saying that doesn’t work, so I don’t want to play your game. Well, I’d rather like play Myles’s game. Do you know what I mean? Instead of voting, I’d rather put some effort into helping USP.
51:40 Yeah, are you playing that game? Is anybody playing that game? No, it’s the good thing. No, it’s true, though, because a lot of people support it. If you like it so much, why don’t you marry it?
51:49 But no, that is the thing, though. So many people support it and they just haven’t got involved because I don’t think people realise what they can do. And I think at this point, because it is in such the early stages… It’s very abstract, but I like it when you nailed it down and I kind of get it now. But when you first talked about it, I was like…
52:02 Dude, don’t tell me you liked it now, right? I’m already joined. It unifies. I liked it before you liked it. Let me finish.
52:11 It brings all the concepts in the world together. It does. And that was why I love the internet because again, if you’re a musician, artist, anything. I used to say video blogging was the purest form of creativity because you could use any particular aspect of creativity in any combination online. And it’s why when you go to YouTube gatherings around the world, everyone gets on.
52:31 I’m in heavy metal and I meet a stamp collector, we’re gonna get unwell because we have that common denominator. Are being creative online. Yeah, and the common denomination in the Universal Solutions Project is we wanna fix the world so everyone has a better life. And I think everyone wants it. The point at which people don’t want it, I shouldn’t say don’t want it, don’t have it as their main priority, is when they have to then go back to the system.
52:53 So for example, volunteering huge percentages in the states of the amount of people that do volunteering work. But what is the point in the, sorry, What is the point at which people stop volunteering? It’s when they have to put up their hands and then go, sorry, I’ve now got to go back to my job. And you can actually create a society that if everyone has the necessities of life provided to them, you’d have a much more prosperous society and actually it’d be better for everyone.
53:16 It’s just in our current system, it’s if one person, if you step away from the system, you’re gonna lose out. So people have to keep playing the game. So who’s gonna make the first move? And it’s the same with renewable energy, who’s gonna make the first move? Because in our current system, whatever company spends all the money on developing something and it fails.
53:36 One of the Zeitgeist movies talks about, I won’t mention the drug company because I need to clarify if it’s a true story. I’m pretty sure it was. You’re very careful what you say. I know, you have to. And it’s why I’m making clear that people should look into this.
53:49 But either way, it’s a good illustration. There was a drug company that researched into a drug which couldn’t be sold because it gave people the HIV virus. the government said, you’re not selling it. And in the end, they repackaged it and distributed it across Europe. So they could cover the cost of what they would have lost. Because if you’re a company, you’re spending millions and millions of dollars, and it fails, which in my theory is a good thing because you learn what the right was to sign science is about disproving stuff. I love scientists, by the way. Yeah, I am a scientist. I think we are extremely good looking. So thank you very much. My background, but I wonder if like five or 10 years from now or 20 years from now, we’ll be looking back and we’re like, This is where the USP started and this is the kind of idea you had and then everyone’s using it.
54:32 And I’d be happy if people don’t vote but then they get involved in something like this. And then I’d be happy. And you’ll be the captain of the USP with all your minions. No. Just do it.
54:40 It’s all about one person. But the scary truth is we have about 30, 40 years to turn this world around because there’s a few timelines. You’ve got population growth is going to hit its max in the next 40 years. And then in the next 20, you’ve got resource depletion. And in the next 10 years, the whole financial system is- Brian doesn’t believe we’re running out of resources.
55:02 No, I don’t. And I don’t think the financial system is going to crash in 10 years. And I think people were thinking the same thing 50 years ago. That’s, you see- Yeah, that’s a very intelligent- But I do think we do need to make some changes here. No, yeah, but my point is I don’t want it to crash.
55:17 Although I’m saying it is, that’s assuming that any of our attempts aren’t going to work. So I think it can. And the reason why is the difference in the time that we live in now to any time before like the last Great Depression is There was so many resources still available as this site called peak oil Which is the fact that every time we drill for oil the cost to get it out the ground of energy to how much we get Back is slowly changing and there’s going to be a tipping point where it costs more energy to get out the ground Then the amount of energy we get back and if that happens and there’s panic oil prices go through the roof it completely shockwaves the entire system and then people want to switch to renewable resources but if you’ve got a whole society that has not got this energy for food packaging transporting stuff all these sort of things and there’s this panic and then there’s like one renewable plant in the world territorial dispute and the metaphor I used in my talk is the Titanic which is the fact that you can be in denial that the ship is sinking and if you go for the life rafts just as it’s going below the water although that’s I’m using it as a metaphor not exactly what happened but if you wait until the boat is just below the water and then you all go for the life rafts at once it’s gonna be carnage and it’s not going to support everyone so we have to put things in place now and if people we’ve
56:32 Only got a few minutes left guys if people want to get in touch with you or find out more about this how would they do it and then also if they want to give their time because I know Nick wants to sign up and start doing something with his life Thanks, Brian. But I mean to help, how can we help? So the Facebook page is facebook.com forward slash universal solutions project. The reason it’s not there in it is because we didn’t want it to sound arrogant like this is the one. It was just a universal solutions project. Also, my facebook facebook.com forward slash miles 376. That’s my personal one.
57:06 You can subscribe. I’m doing like podcasts every few weeks on universal solutions project Facebook but because there’s not much happening I don’t want everyone to keep tuning in to hear nothing because then they’ll get desensitized it’s it’s very difficult because this is the second attempt at it and I know time’s running out so now um before we go we gotta hear what it’s like to be the lead singer in a band and we have to find out about groupies groupies well we haven’t performed yet have you got YouTube groupies yeah but I’m I’m I’m I’m very responsible I like to think I am and the reason that’s too bad that the reason why is because people online although I’m very honest with who I am online ultimately it’s a persona when you see a video of mine that is a series of sentences they’re not having a conversation they don’t know who I am really so yeah I hang out with people and I get on with girls a lot better because they’re much more open in conversation and that but I’m very careful it’s just because I’ve had a few bad experiences with girls in the past. Like bunny boilers and the like. What is that? Bunny boilers? Oh what’s a bunny, oh a bunny boiler, okay. It’s a reference to fatal attraction, okay. I guess you are a persona online, did you have that hard time when you meet people that they’re expecting the miles persona and then they get you? Well the surprising thing is they say I’m exactly what they expected, which they find really
58:30 Weird because they’re like, I thought you, because a lot of video bloggers they are different, they’re quite shy people and then very loud on video and that as me I just for what I said earlier I just put myself out there because then if people don’t like me they’ve had a warning like that and I think people respect that for the most part. Wow that’s cool guys this our flu I mean like absolutely that was really mind expanding. No it was really really cool um well we know how to get in touch with you and check it out and I hope everyone does look at the Universal Solutions project and contact you to help. Thanks for having me on I love this show. Thanks man I appreciate it. He was like an early the adopter of London Real, Myles is a fan, so thanks, man.
59:08 Just one thing from my side, guys, I’ve got a new site up. It’s called The Art of Beautiful Living. You can find it at www.artofbeautifulliving.com. Got a new article on meditation, if anyone’s interested in meditation, check it out. It’s on our Facebook London Reelers group as well, so.
59:23 That’s how I need to relax, is start meditating. I tried it once, and then I didn’t keep in a rhythm body. This is not enough? It isn’t, yeah. Check out the article.
59:31 It was really long. Well, good to you. Thanks for coming on.
