John Joseph – Meat Is For Pussies

Few people started out in an environment as unforgiving as hardcore punk legend John Joseph.

He came up HARD…

…learned the lessons of the streets…

…and survived extreme violence.

Yet he clawed his way out, inch by inch, to find his salvation in punk.

John went on to form The Cro-Mags, the now-legendary hardcore band who would gift to the world a groundbreaking fusion of thrash metal and punk.

His is NOT a story for the faint-hearted…

Beaten, starved and molested in foster homes, John was a drugs mule for heroin dealers on New York’s meanest streets at the age of 14.

He was shot, stabbed, survived gangland hits and saw people murdered before his eyes.

In our conversation John gives a no-holds-barred account of New York’s punk underground during the genre’s Golden Age of hard drugs, non-stop violence and incredible music.

In this episode John and I talk about:

  • His years as an ass-kicking Hare Krishna warrior monk
  • Surviving BETRAYAL by those closest to you
  • The evolution of the vegan scene from a pioneering lifestyle choice to a community dominated by “douchebags.”
  • Honouring your chosen craft with old school discipline
  • How Trump put the RAGE back in punk
  • How SEAL coaching got him across the finishing line of an Ironman race on ZERO SLEEP
  • How meditation and martial arts saved him from self-destruction

John Joseph pulls no punches in this moving, frank and, at times, deeply funny interview.

00:00 Trailer.
02:15 Brian’s thoughts on the episode.
04:47 Brian’s introduction.
05:26 Incredible London music scene different to New York.
10:15 Abusive and violent childhood in New York City leads to a dangerous drug scene.
19:57 Whatever hell we were going through, music was the salvation.
23:23 A time-bomb waiting to go off is conclusion of his Navy SEAL psychological test.
28:38 No band could ever touch the Bad Brains in a live performance.
31:21 AWOL, fighting for his life in New York, in need of healing.
44:15 Facing racial hatred down south and how John got his nickname Bloodclot.
47:27 How a crazy, drug dealing, scrapping in street guy comes to front a band.
50:25 Honour the music, study your craft; learning a lot from Robert McKee before writing his story.
51:35 It was hard in Evolution of a Cro-Magnon to write openly about abuse he suffered as a child.
53:21 Forsaking drugs and alcohol for eating raw foods and being a fighting Hari Krishna monk.
1:00:53 The hot girl on Waikiki Beach, Hawaii: would applying PMA have changed John’s future?
1:02:47 Return to NY punk scene then realising corruption existing within the Hari Krishna movement.
1:08:41 Why he had to live in crazy, lawless Alphabet City, NY.
1:12:21 Insane stunts at Cro-Mag performances, his lifestyle giving authenticity to song lyrics.
1:16:49 “My history is of being betrayed, so when betrayal happens something inside me breaks”.
1:26:21 Descent to rock bottom, constantly running from the cops with wealthy girlfriend.
1:43:53 Below rock bottom in a crack house. How and who gave the focus to climbing out of the hell.
1:48:21 John’s life now and his relationship with fellow vegans.
1:53:58 Competing the Ironman races. “The mind can be your best friend or your worst enemy”.
2:01:31 What will John being doing in five years-time?
2:02:14 Success secrets.
2:02:49 Is John ready for the ultimate test?
2:07:51 What keeps John away at night.
2:08:07 Advice to the twenty-year old John Joseph.
2:10:00 Best advice ever received.
2:11:41 Advice to the young person listening.
2:14:36 Brian’s summing up.

John Joseph links:
John Joseph website
http://www.purepma.com/
John Joseph on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGy-7a2mGbzfZYMNjOk-gRQ
John Joseph on Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/johnjosephcromag/
John Joseph walking tours
http://www.rocksoff.com/walkingtours
John Joseph on Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Joseph_(rock_singer)

John Joseph’s Books:
Meat is for Pussies
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Meat-Pussies-How-Guide-Dudes/dp/0062320327
The Power of Your Subconscious Mind
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Power-Your-Subconscious-Mind/dp/9562912019
The Evolution of a Cro-Magnon: Second Edition Updated with new Chapters!
http://johnjoseph.merchnow.com/products/v2/247115/second-edition–the-evolution-of-a-cro-magnon-bookaudio

Topics discussed:
Cro-Mags (band)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cro-Mags
Hare Krishna
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Society_for_Krishna_Consciousness
Ironman Triathlon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironman_Triathlon
Motörhead (band)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mot%C3%B6rhead
Charged GBH (band)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charged_GBH
Discharge (band)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discharge_(band)
The Clash (band)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Clash
Sex Pistols (band)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_Pistols
Ramones (band)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramones
Siouxsie and the Banshees (band)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siouxsie_and_the_Banshees
Songs from the Big Chair by Tears for Fears
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songs_from_the_Big_Chair
Hip Hop
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_hop
Led Zeppelin (band)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Led_Zeppelin
Black Sabbath (band)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sabbath
NY77: The Coolest Year in Hell (documentary)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NY77:_The_Coolest_Year_in_Hell
Alphabet City New York
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabet_City,_Manhattan
Tompkins Square Park
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tompkins_Square_Park
Max’s Kansas City
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max%27s_Kansas_City
CBGB
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBGB
Sly and the Family Stone (band)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sly_and_the_Family_Stone
Bromance (band)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromance
Bad Brains (band)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Brains
Navy SEAL Bud/s class

BUD/S (Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL) Training


Act of Valor (film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_of_Valor
Teen Idols (band)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teen_Idols
Untouchables (punk band)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untouchables_(punk_band)
Bob Marley (film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marley_(film)
Rastafari
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rastafari
Ital
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ital
Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Think-Grow-Rich-Original-Restored/dp/0990797600
Positive Mental Attitude (PMA)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_mental_attitude
The Specials (band)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Specials
Redneck
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redneck
999 (band)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/999_(band)
State of Alert (band)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Alert
Black Flag (band)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Flag_(band)
The Undead (band)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Undead
Beastie Boys
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beastie_Boys
A7 (bar)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A7_(bar)
Story by Robert McKee
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Story-Substance-Structure-Principles-Screenwriting/dp/0413715604/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
The Basketball Diaries (film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Basketball_Diaries_(film)
Basketball Diaries Ages 12-15 by Jim Carroll
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Basketball-Diaries-Ages-12-15-Carroll/dp/0553248952
Monster (film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_(2003_film)
Wonder Woman (film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_Woman_(2017_film)
The Dots (band)
https://www.rockwiththedots.com/
Unsane (band)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsane
Hatha Yoga
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatha_yoga
Bhaktivedanta Manor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhaktivedanta_Manor
Captured: A Lower East Side Film and Video History
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Captured-Lower-East-Video-History/dp/1583226745
Rubble Kings (documentary)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubble_Kings
Bicycle messenger
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_messenger
Survival of the streets
https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=firefox-b-ab&dcr=0&ei=EPUzWsDBMcaOgAaz2Iy4Cg&q=survival+of+the+streets+lyrics&oq=Survival+of+the+streets+&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0j0i22i30k1l3.2911.15688.0.17240.74.42.12.0.0.0.231.4343.26j14j1.42.0….0…1c.1.64.psy-ab..30.44.3615.6..35i39k1j0i67k1j0i131k1j0i20i263k1j0i46i67k1j46i67k1j0i131i67k1j0i131i20i263k1j0i10k1.154.jsbEr-AaXEk
Street Justice lyrics
http://www.songlyrics.com/cro-mags/street-justice-lyrics/
Metallica (band)
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=metallica+band&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-ab&gfe_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=1vYzWqzmEdGGgAb7lYbgAw
Red Hot Chilli Peppers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hot_Chili_Peppers
Survival into the Twenty First Century by Viktoras Kulvinskas
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Survival-into-Twenty-First-Century/dp/0933278047
What the Health (film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_the_Health
Rich Roll Podcast
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-rich-roll-podcast/id582272991?mt=2
Who the Fuck is That Guy: The Fabulous Journey of Michael Alago (film)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4958390/
The Four Agreements: Practical Guide to Personal Freedom by Don Miguel Ruiz
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Four-Agreements-Practical-Personal-Freedom/dp/1878424319
Cowspiracy (film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowspiracy

People mentioned in this episode:
Marvin Gaye
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Gaye
Iggy Pop
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iggy_Pop
David Bowie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bowie
Mackie “Hyper” Jason
http://www.noecho.net/features/the-graffiti-and-hardcore-connection-by-freddy-alva
Martha Cooper
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Cooper
Ian MacKaye
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_MacKaye
Ray Chinna Shim
https://www.discogs.com/artist/503947-Ray-Shim
Napoleon Hill
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_Hill
Henry Rollins
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Rollins
H R
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.R.
Joel Rifkin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Rifkin
Robert McKee

Robert McKee – Story


Patty Jenkins
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patty_Jenkins
Bryan Callen

Bryan Callen – Man Thoughts


Jiddu Krishnamurti
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiddu_Krishnamurti
KRS-One
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KRS-One
Viktoras Kulvinskas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktoras_Kulvinskas
Robert J Ostfielf MD
http://www.montefiore.org/cardiacwellnessprogram
David Goggins
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Goggins

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Yudhisthira
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John Joseph is the real deal. Deep respect. Hare Krishna.

Yudhisthira
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John Joseph is the real deal. Deep respect.

Christopher Z Hemenway
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That was amazing

kosterart288
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kosterart288

epic episode!

Stephanie
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Sorry he had such a traumatic early life.

evan6629
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This was beyond interesting

bodhi_oz654
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bodhi_oz654

great interview, a good man,

ronateg910
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ronateg910

The video hangs florever..

Jamie
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Absolutely brilliant! What an inspiration!

kasia_dob89
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kasia_dob89

this guy is absolute legend and badass VEGAN ! Respect !

Noel Fox
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I saw the Cro Mags live in the late 80s at the Hammersmith Clarendon one of the most intense gigs I have been to. Skated all day at Meanwhiles then Cro Mags in the evening good times

Lance
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PURE GOLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

zanderstewart258
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zanderstewart258

The guy knows things..!! Amazing story and a great way to work out through his massive adversity. Even if it’s ALL bs, his mindset now is the way forward!!

DQuinn888308
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DQuinn888308

The guy looks like a weak puny moron and he pukes “Meat Is For Pussies”

Joakim
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Did you listen to his story or nah? This man got balls you could only dream of.

Zolina-Mohamad
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And you sound like a whinny ass crybaby that bitchin about everything in life. I wanna see u do it u pussy ass troll

Conker
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This was like watching a movie!!

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msonnym1

I completely enjoyed this episode. I was hooked at the intro and had to keep listening to John’s amazing story. He is a true gem. Honest, raw, unapologetically real. Love this guy. thank you for having him on. I want to meet him someday.

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Steve
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This guy is awesome….loved the Jamaica story at 28 minutes….but the whole guys life is so interesting

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