Ido Portal – Move or Die

As you know, here on London Real we are committed to giving you best ideas from the most innovative, fascinating and game-changing people in their respective fields.

If you are a true London Real fan, you’ll know we’re not just about entertainment, but about creating the shift in your awareness necessary for you to reach your potential.

It’s for that reason that I consider this week’s guest, the movement expert Ido Portal, one of our most important guests.

You will have seen him before on the show, and we felt that his work was so significant, that we wanted him back!

Last time we talked a lot of Ido the man, his background in Capoeira and his upbringing in Israel.

This time we go deeper into the philosophy of Ido’s work.

As you will see, the more I try to pin Ido down on a clear description of what it is he actually does, the more philosophical he becomes.

I believe that’s proof of Ido’s highly evolved approach to teaching movement.

Ido is far more clear about his movement teaching is NOT, rather than what it is.

It is NOT another fad. It is NOT about fancy techniques and showing off like a break dancer.

It’s NOT a functional philosophy, like a martial art or a style of dance.

Ido’s philosophy, and Ido the man for that matter, are illusive.

Movement is such a broad term, and Ido likes it that way.

You’ll notice this from a lot of our guests, but Ido is particularly cautious with his words, because as he tells me, words are easily abused.

Keeping the ideas behind his teaching so expansive means that his impact on his students is profound, and deeply personal.

It’s about YOUR relationship with YOUR body.

I was lucky enough to be invited to take part in a two-day weekend session with Ido, and like I say in this episode, it created a revolution in how I view my own body.

The idea of going to the gym just to pump iron, or spend hours developing a specialism in your training, now seems to me to be a waste of time.

Ido is about ditching the specialist approach to fitness and the body.

In fact, the word fitness is something he wants to get away from.

You’ll remember what James Altucher said a few weeks back on the show, about idea sex, and how combining seemingly unrelated ideas can make game-changing shifts in your business and success.

Well, it’s kind of the same thing for Ido, but with the body.

He encourages his students to explore the deepest and most far reaching possibilities of what their body can do.

In doing that, you find your own identity as a physical being, and create a way of moving that is not imitative, but authentic.

Listen out for the section in which Ido talks about the importance of community.

Ido’s philosophy is about harnessing the collective wisdom that comes from working with others, from experimenting within the context of a group.

Some of the stuff he talks about here really made me think about the Academy!

For Ido, the very act of expanding your awareness of our body’s potential, creates a deeper, more connected awareness of our authentic selves.

Ido says that more and more in recent months, he has been realising the importance of developing your own ‘fingerprint’ when it comes to movement.

I highly recommend looking out for his discussion of that.

Like I said, Ido doesn’t really have one single takeaway philosophy.

If you are looking for that, well, you might be disappointed!

Getting tied down to one idea, on single perspective on what movement and the body are, is EXACTLY what Ido wants to crush.

He’s all about creating mindset shifts, bursting through the comfort zone of even his most talented students.

Ido is a big believer in maintaining the ‘beginner’s mind’ all the time, never letting you get comfortable.

By doing this, Ido has created a culture, rather than a method, and it’s a distinction he seems fond of making.

It’s more of a commitment, than a lifestyle. A set of values, rather than a set of digestible ideas.

Even interviewing him is an experience of broadening your horizons!

His answers develop and evolve as they leave his mouth, because for Ido, growth, change and innovation seem to be his guiding commitments.

For Ido, ‘there is no black belt’.

His approach to movement is about trying to stay a white belt, to always be in that moment of discovery.

So the point is not the technique you are practising in that moment. It’s not about athletics, and showing off.

Ido is only happy when his students are practicing their movement from a state of freshness and personal development.

This creates both accelerated growth in your physical abilities, but at the same time it creates the humility necessary to truly integrate that growth.

There’s no other guest who better embodies so many of our values here at London Real.

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[5:36] Introduction.

[7:20] What do you do? The movement culture. Owning a body.

[9:20] Teaching about movement vs discipline. Purest form of capoeira.

[13:50] Teaching the Ido Portal movement method/practice/stuff.

[15:49] Using words to describe the practice.

[16:12] Slice and dice approach to map the cloud.

[18:30] Specific basic patterns with the goal of getting stronger. Basics.

[20:40] Move without thinking about moving. Sharing similarities between the tribe of the movement culture.

[21:40] Capoeira put in me the importance of community, tribe and collective knowledge.

[23:40] Difficult to reinvent the wheel. Humans are the generalist of all animals.

[24:30] Paying the price of being a specialist.

[27:04] Specialist to generalist to fingerprint.

[27:20] Describe the best movement day of Ido Portal in the last year.

[28:15] Awareness. It happens to you. Soft, hard, smooth.

[29:56] How do you plan a good movement day. Recognising the “hunger” for movement.

[32:39] Brian, you need a place to hang. Doesn’t have to be a once every 2 day gym session.

[33:00] Owning the body. Taking the responsibility.

[34:10] Not about doing a workout. It’s about living a physical lifestyle. Constantly respecting the body that you live in.

[35:40] American fitness industry.

[37:19] What to expect in a Ido Portal seminar. Giving white belts and taking back the “toy”.

[41:16] The culture of people who follow Ido Portal. Being a good student. You can never return the gift from a teacher.

[43:51] When you find a good teacher, you should just learn from them, regardless of what they have to teach you.

[44:38] Make it a point to seek new teachers. Finding pieces of information through a person.

[45:30] Data. Information. Knowledge. Wisdom.

[46:35] The era of mis-information. How to find good information.

[49:02] The Vegan community. The Crossfit practice. Unquantifiable movement practices.

[51:00] The lizard crawl.

[52:25] Organic movements. Solving a certain kinetic puzzle.

[53:34] Dorian Yates. Bodybuilding and fitness models.

[56:00] We are not just a brain or a body, we are also an image of the way we look at ourselves.

[57:18] What do you wake up looking to do?

[59:40] I was the media slut known for the one arm handstand but that’s just a very small piece of the practice.

[1:03:45] The conflict of spreading the message but not selling out. It has to be my way.

[1:05:06] What is Ido Portal of doing at age 55, in 20 years time.

[1:06:30] Stephen Jepson, Never leave the playground.

[1:08:00] Taking calculated risks. If you are going to be competitive you pay the price.

[1:09:45] Being known as a ruthless instructor. Very emphatic way to look at things.

[1:11:25] Pain is a complex phenomena.

[1:13:55] Feeling angry when training. Getting emotional.

[1:16:00] Giving context. Ultimately it’s about revealing the concealed truth. Bringing this awareness inside. Anything that you do have no value or truth unless it sheds new awareness and light. Movement is through the body.

[1:17:57] How does Ido Portal relax without moving. Meditation

[1:21:00] Losing my emotional flexibility.

[1:22:34] Lessons from trip to China. Eat Bitter

[1:26:45] Where’s home for you?

[1:27:50] Russians.

[1:29:05] Starting a family.

[1:29:50] Are we going in the wrong direction in this world?

[1:30:30] Technology will help us change our mindsets in a deep enough level. We are moving away from awareness.

[1:31:35] Viktor Frankl – the opposite of love is indifference

[1:32:41] Conor McGregor – the way he moves. Asking the questions. Expressing the art of expressing the body.

[1:34:44] I appreciate loudmouths. Loud mouths are risk taker.

[1:36:40] Principles are superior to techniques.

[1:38:40] Believe in the intelligence of the audience.

[1:39:50] When you think of the word successful, who comes to mind.

[1:40:50] Odelia Goldschmidt – how would she describe Ido? Teacher disciple relationship.

[1:43:42] Writing. When is the book coming out?

[1:45:15] How many people will you touch next year? Physical contact.

[1:47:23] Establishing the boundaries before we go to work. If I can’t touch you, I won’t work with you.

[1:47:44] Movement and sex. Desmond Morris. Moshé Feldenkrais.

[1:48:42] What would you say to the 20 year old Ido.

[1:50:20:] Mentors. Shai Faran. Capoeira. My mother. The last year of my life. Zen Buddhism. Mushashi. Empty the cup. Cleaning the soul. Meditate on your death.

[1:54:00] Answer to your intuition.

[1:56:40] TEDTalk.

[1:59:11] Bring your body to the Movement Camp.

[2:02:00] The collective knowledge.

Connect with Ido Portal

Official Website

Facebook: Portal.Ido

Twitter: @PortalIdo



3rd interview with Ido Portal on London Real: Moving Conversation

1st interview with Ido Portal on London Real: Just Move


Useful links


BJJ – Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu


People mentioned

Stephen Jepson

Viktor Frankl

Conor McGregor

Desmond Morris

Moshé Feldenkrais

Shai Faran

Nicholas Nassim Taleb


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These videos won’t load saying the player is unreachable and gives a Vimeo link to the video. Is this a problem with my end or the websites.


wow…I did learn a ton, thanks a lot for that (or better all these) Interviews of Ido Portal. Not only about movement…he has a certain way of thinking, I can easily connect to. Great stuff again here on London Real.


1:33:34 – Ido speaking Nate Diaz’s language way before Conor’s defeat! The guy actually speaks like that and beated Conor:D


Very pleased to watch Ido’s clips. I think it was enlightened. Huge thanks to London Real


trying to see what McGregor learned on, I do get this following error:
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Thank you for that, it was amazing. And not just the content itself but the way you made a movie out of it. And I can not imagine there would be a better scene to end with, you are a genius too.
Sorry for my english xD


Wow. So I FINALLY got round to watching this after a long time and I knew it would be great. First I would like to write a short review about the main part of the documentary – Just Move, whilst also processing through my thoughts by writing this. This is also a message to Ido, providing insight into some of my beliefs. I hope it makes it’s way through to him somehow through this virtual network that mankind has built that we call – the Internet! Right, so let’s begin! I loved how Ido spoke about presenting a new perspective… Read more »

Ben Chaib

Love this! So much to learn and it is so true that once we don’t have it (body parts, abilities, or anything we take for granted) we want it back and at that time it may be too late… so cherish it now, take care of it… use it or lose it as they say…

Great job Brian, Ido and crew

Mike von Lindenberg

Minute 47:00 Ido talks about how to discern which information is correct. I would suggest everyone to learn what has been taken out of our school systems. Learn about the trivium. Go to and

Carlos De Andrade

Amazing discovering of Ido Portal..It has open a new reality to me which i really reasonate with at this moment of my life

Zelo Dobro

how come on youtube it only posts part one of two i cant find part two of two anywere for any videos is this a planned thing to get people to this site i still cnt ind the part two for ido portal on youtube also

Marcelo T. Amaral

Hi, I didn’t get the name of the author he mentioned at the end. Could anyone shed a light on it?


Nassim Taleb is the name of his favourite author, if you are reffeing to it.

Jenny Martineau

Fantastic interview, as always. I listened three times trying to catch the name of the dancer that Ido references with no success. Could anyone help me

Mikael Wenger

Shai Faran I think 🙂

Breno Sampaio

Wonderful interview!

Michael Frank (Mitch)

Such a brilliant attitude! I wonder how he finances his lifestyle – just be teaching a few people randomly around the world? need to do some research on his work. Looking forward to the “Moving Conversation” on Sunday!

Jade Stevens

Zelo Dobro

typical limited mindset people pay a mint for this guys knoledge at camps and around the world


Through “movement camps” that are 800€ for 2 days, and in which “Ido’s presence is not guaranteed.” He’s just a hyped-up salesman who has very intelligently found his niche amongst fat-ass thirty-something rich kids who have nothing better to do with their money. This man’s ego is so huge I wonder why they didn’t get a second chair for it to sit beside him. Meditation? Kid are you fucking kidding me? If you meditated half as much as you say you do, you would be way more humble. He’s so full of crap it reeks.


What specifically makes you think he’s full of crap?

Scott Stone

He is a brilliant and spot on!

Damon Perry

Interesting interview, though I think a number of really important issues – crucial to the topic of human movement and particularly with Portal’s background in capoeira – were absent. One is the difference in approaches to movement where one is either moving as an individual or as a part of an interacting unit of two (or more) individuals. Movement training seems to be inspired by martial arts (and dance), which involves an interaction of bodies. But much of the training I have seen from Portal are individual exercises done in isolation. The relationship between an approach to movement where an… Read more »

Seán Millar

You missed the point of what Ido is teaching us. Search further.

Michael Godek

This was a great interview. I loved what Ido said about learning and developing true principles, instead of technique. John Taylor, the third President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints reported: “Some years ago, in Nauvoo, a gentleman in my hearing, a member of the Legislature, asked Joseph Smith how it was that he was enabled to govern so many people, and to preserve such perfect order; remarking at the same time that it was impossible for them to do it anywhere else. Mr. Smith remarked that it was very easy to do that. ‘How?’ responded… Read more »

Joakim Ljungren

Truly Inspiring man. I believe that what people call his philosophy is rather than a philosophy the natural range of human motion. The context of which evolution has shaped our bodies and how it has made so many different displays of complex movement possible. I find it kind of terrifying that we have lost some aspects of what it means to be human.

Michael Polito

Amazing interview Brian. You have a great style to interview. Very nice. Ido was great to..LOL Ido is so inspiring . He has really changed me and opened my mine.

Josué Valente

Fantastic interview Brian! Thank you for helping me getting to know Ido Portal’s valuable perspective!

Sean Lewis

Great, insightful interview Brian. Really enjoyed it and more to the point learn from it! Thank you!

Michael LaRocque

13 seconds!??! Everyone is going to be calling Ido

Jessie Debts

Conor doing workouts with ido was a wise move
ido is good

Denise Gansmann

I was laying in bed kinda depressed and I started listening to this on YouTube and I sat right up! I feel motivated again. I live in the projects bottom of the barrel almost. This London real helping inspire me. I got a lot out of it , Thanks Brian posting this full episode for non subscribers Will join when get more bucks. Movement? I’m moving!


Hi Denise, thank you for sharing. When ever I get lazy and have too much time on my hand, I start to get depressed, doubtful, and slow. But when focus on my goals, mission, vision, and take action every day towards it, everything drastically improves. I’m no longer focus on everyday small issues that would normally bother me because my dreams are big, and I’m focused. So that is what’s been working for me. If you have 6 minutes, here’s my progress:

Jerry Burke


Adam Shahir Kayoom

What a great interview….would love to learn from him. When he comes to Bangkok or Thailand, I would definitely attend any of his classes or seminars. Thank you London Real and Ido Portal.

William O'Connell

@londonrealtv This is some of what Ido was talking about when he says Connor was using his ideas;

Great episode! Thank you

Carl Thompson

I move my arm alot 🙂

Ruppert Behr

Man, this 2nd interview with Ido, the recent Maxwell, Yates, Hulse ones… All guys that are massively into the physical aspect of being (in a body) as well as the spiritual side of things. SO interesting. In the same vein maybe you could bring Paul Chek on the show. He has a lot of “out there” ideas but it would make for an interesting interview for sure!

Thanks for these great shows.

Kohl Donovan

someone needs to help ido and take all his work and make a sport

Ruppert Behr

That is exactly what no one needs to do. It’s a much about the philosophy and the individual possibilities of each mover. It doesn’t need to be standardized. What you would end up with would have nothing to do with Ido’s approach anymore.

That’s just my take on things though 🙂


That would be destroying that he defends. Trust me, I started doing Street Workout before it was cool. Now it is cool, it is still not that known and it’s fked up. Even the community is way worse now.

Ayelet Shacham Ben-Zvi

very interesting and inspiring. Wish Ido’s seminars were in East Coast USA

Sai Asaka

Great interview once again brian; thank you for sharing it for free. I’m always somewhat a little bit disapointed because as a movement specialist I expect him to talk about specific movements; for example what he thinks about different movements (using kb;barbell;bodyweight) I know that we can find a lot on his videos on youtube about those question but it’s almost as he’s teasing us with ideas but we don’t have an idea about concrete things… I know that if we’re interested we should go to his seminar or do online training with him and I know that this is… Read more »

Adam M. McAllister

Anyone curious about anything specific about movement that he left to the imagination should check out the Convict Conditioning book series, and Al and Danny Kavadlo. They cover a huge swath of bodyweight knowledge and the Kavadlos put out a lot of good free content on YT.

manuel bohn

I totally agree with the Eckhart idea

Mike Hollingsworth

He kind of did answer that question; It depends on your goals.

Ruppert Behr

agreeing on Eckhart Tolle, defo bring him on the show Brian! I had the same association when Ido went into that direction!

Laurens van der Linden

I would suggest that you visit his blog or join his group on Facebook!

Julian Marc Walker

so great, such a unique genius in this realm. many fantastic, insightful, inspired moments. he is simultaneously filled with confidence and charisma, and frank in his humility and straightforwardness. a little disappointed at them both perpetuating the tired old myth of people in ancient/rural/tribal cultures somehow having access to an embodied wisdom that we have lost. specifically he mentions the farmer who would have had greater awareness than we do today —but this is unlikely. he probably did as many repetitive and mechanical movement patterns as we do in urban life, and was not intellectually/spiritually interested in embodiment as a… Read more »

Jeremy Frias

Incredible interview like the first. So many actionable insights, thank you. Some takeaways: 1. Wisdom is a process of discovering what was already there but hidden. 2. There are no “basics”, only basics in the context of what you choose for your practice. One can never be a pure generalist (good at everything), but as a generalist one can choose from a wide spectrum in order to sculpt and craft a personal practice, or “fingerprint”. 3. The importance and power of having a collective culture and taking advantage of collective knowledge, not just relying on oneself or one leader. 4.… Read more »

Patrikas Šatkauskas

Keeps shutting off with “Sorry, there was an issue with playback”

Clare Stainsby

Thanks Brian, a great interview with Ido Portal, inspirational.

Shlomi Dan

כל הכבוד עידו

Julian Marc Walker

ido portal holding forth on conor mcgregor for three or more minutes will become the biggest viral clip for london real so far…

Dustin Smith

in reference to the tail end. Ido, I can’t wait until you “stop moving” and “sit and design”. I can’t wait for the day, that you have your programs presented on louder, more assessable medium. What are you waiting for?

Simon Grižon

Cool interview Brian and Ido. Enjoyed listening to your discussion. Ido – Study and dive deep into zhuan zhuang perhaps 😉 I think we should meet one day when the time is right, I have some things to share with you. Best regards from Slovenija – you are always welcome to visit me in Ljubljana – (

Huon Feit

Brian great interview, to interview Ido is like moving with him if you can’t change the mindset and dig for the topic and allow for the discussion to evolve or germinate then I believe the opportunity to discover gold is lost. A Real Interview No Filler!

Alexandre TurcoMuerte Lopes

a certainly big big source of inspiration to motivate, inform, and evolve.
great stuff

Martin Schulz

this guy, man. this guy. You know what feature makes him accepted as a true leader by his students? Not his knowledge, not his insights, not his skills. But that he doesnt see himself as one. Not really. He is absolutely free of ego. no need to defend anything. No role to play. No mask to take on. He doesnt hide. He doesnt want to raise his image in Brians eyes. He doesnt see any student as less valuable. That is something.
THIS guy. incredible

Tony Coxon

we are white belts in everything best quote by ido, always learning!beautiful episode

Sergio Iturra


Christina Lind

Very inspiring!!! Thank You!

Babeth Schuring

I love the interview because we really get to see Ido and there are new viewpoints discussed and existing ones from yet another angle which makes it worth watching for old time students and for new kids on the block. well done

Yusuf O. Osman

When you first interviewed him the first time around on “London Real”, i was like, FINALLY!!
Now that he’s back, it’s just more epic!! When is his next trip to mainland Europe ?

Aris Ludo Tsangarides

Great interview! Well done Sir 😉

Forest Donovan

This is the longest Ido Portal has ever been in a chair lol

Sunjeev Patel

I like this annual visit format with some of your guests. Great interview Brian but that flickering globe light in the background was distracting me every time I saw it haha.

Christian Urrea

My mind has just been blown…. This guy is different. Very interested in “pulling the string”. Brian what do YOU think of him now after your experience in his seminar ?

Renata Koba

After watching the last episode with Peter Sage and now with Ido I’ve realised how much I’ve been influenced by their ideas during those last years. I saw them both some years ago on London Real and I can see how much my perspective shifted. People at London Real do change lives!
Please invite Daniele Bolleli. It will be awesome to see him after all those years at London Real again!
Thank you, Brian! Love and Peace.

Jiří Gerda

Amazing. I wonder how the interview would unravel with Brian experiencing the Movement X event. So much new insights, I just love the word awareness being mentioned many times in different context. Thank you London Real!

Brian Rose

Please leave your comments here, I would love ANY feedback!!

JT in New England
JT in New England

This trailer is amazing. Great job putting this together! Don’t you see the sparkle in his eyes(?!!!) Fantastic.
The music is a perfect match too. Is it DjSadhu?

Jiri Kaderabek
Jiri Kaderabek

This is going to be epic…..I´ve been to the movement experience and Ido is the real deal when it comes to teaching movement based training at the same time he is so much more than just a movement fanatic.