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Douglas Murray - Success Secrets

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Writing, Debate & Success Habits

“Be a part of your age, but do not be its creature.”

In short: Douglas Murray is a British author, journalist and associate editor of The Spectator. In this short 2019 clip from his London Real interview with Brian Rose, he talks about the advice he would give his 20-year-old self, the career lesson he learned from an editor, and what he would tell young people today.

Brian asks the question he puts to many guests: if you could call your 20-year-old self on a magic phone, what would you say? Douglas answers with relationships and not worrying so much, then moves to the best career advice he received as a young writer.

That advice came from the then editor of The Spectator, who took the time to explain why a first submission did not work. Douglas also shares the Schiller quote he turns to when asked what young people should do in a world he did not grow up in.

Key takeaways

  • Don’t worry about meeting the right person. At 20 you think it will never happen, Douglas says, and his advice to himself would be that it will come.
  • Relationships take time to learn. He says it takes a long time to navigate meaningful personal relationships and know what you are doing.
  • Write for readers who pay to read. The editor told him university professors are paid to hear your essay, whereas readers choose whether to read, so the piece has to be enjoyable.
  • Encouragement matters. Douglas says people need to be shown what to do, rather than being told they must be perfect the first time.
  • Keep something back. He tells young people not to put everything out there and not to cheapen themselves.
  • Be a part of your age, not its creature. Quoting Schiller, he says to engage fully with your era but not let it define you.

Advice for the 20-year-old Douglas

Asked what he would tell himself at university, Douglas says it would be personal advice. Relationships take a long time to work out, and he would have told himself not to worry so much about whether the right person would turn up. In his words, it will come.

The best career advice Douglas Murray received

Douglas had written his first book on literature and was writing reviews for The Spectator when he submitted an article on politics on spec. The editor, Boris Johnson at the time, phoned to explain what was wrong with it so that the next piece would be better. Douglas says he has always been grateful for that, particularly because journalism can be a harsh place for newcomers.

The lesson was that he had written an essay, and the magazine does not run essays. At university he had been used to reading essays to professors who are paid to hear them, whereas Spectator readers pay to read, so the piece has to be good and enjoyable. Nobody had told him that before.

Boris Johnson, politics and telling the truth

Brian asks what Boris Johnson is really like. Douglas says he does not know him well, but that what you see is what you get, flaws and virtues alike, and that for a politician he had the unusual trait of making people feel better when his name came up.

Asked whether he would ever go into politics himself, Douglas says it has rarely been possible to be a politician and tell the truth, and that even if he got in, the whip would be drawn the moment he said too much.

Advice to young people: part of your age, not its creature

For a 20-year-old born into a world with social media, Douglas says first not to do things that will demoralise you or that you will be ashamed of, and to hold your head higher than the era tells you to. Don’t put everything out there, and keep something of yourself back.

He closes with a line from Schiller about being a part of your age without being its creature, which he reads as an instruction to immerse yourself in your time while refusing the parts of it you do not want.

Who is Douglas Murray?

Douglas Murray is a British author, journalist and associate editor of The Spectator. He began his writing career with a book on literature and reviews for The Spectator, and he talks about learning to write for readers rather than professors. This Success Secrets clip is taken from his full London Real interview with Brian Rose.

Frequently asked questions

What advice would Douglas Murray give his 20-year-old self?

He said it would be personal advice about relationships: they take a long time to learn, and he would tell himself not to worry so much about meeting the right person.

What is the best career advice Douglas Murray received?

An editor of The Spectator told him he had written an essay, and that readers pay to read, so a piece has to be good and enjoyable rather than aimed at a professor.

What Schiller quote does Douglas Murray recommend?

He recommends the line “be a part of your age but do not be its creature”, meaning engage fully with your time without letting it define you.

Where can I watch the full Douglas Murray interview?

This page carries the Success Secrets clip, which comes from his full London Real interview with Brian Rose. The video and transcript are on this page.

Chapters

0:00 | Advice for the 20-year-old Douglas
1:21 | The best career advice Douglas received
2:23 | A phone call about a Spectator article
3:34 | Why readers pay to read, not professors
4:14 | What Boris Johnson is really like
5:54 | Politics and telling the truth
6:21 | Advice for young people today
7:18 | Keep something back: Schiller on your age

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Full transcript: Douglas Murray on London Real

0:00 Brian Rose: Deficit, they always ask people a few last questions. If you could pick up a kind of a magic phone and call up the 20 year old Douglas and give that young man a bit of advice, what would you tell them? And where were you? University.

0:25 Douglas Murray: Yeah, as a university, I think it would be personal advice.

0:31 I think there’s a lot of things you work you do, if you’ve known it about relationships, if you known about it earlier, takes a long time to navigate personal relationships with other people, in I mean, meaningful, takes a long time to work it out, to know what you’re doing. I’d have given myself relationship advice, including not to worry so much. You know, when you’re 20 you think I’m never gonna meet the right person. You know, yeah, and I think I’d say to myself, don’t worry about that, it’ll come.

1:21 Brian Rose: And that same note, best advice you ever received could come from a parent or a professor or Christopher Hitchens, anyone?

1:32 Douglas Murray: Best advice I ever received? Well, I might dodge that and just give you what is a title dodge, but a career piece of advice when I was starting out, I was I wrote my first book was on literature, and I was writing reviews for The Spectator, and the then editor was Boris Johnson, who since has disappeared, no one’s heard of him. Who and Boris was yet, III people don’t tell a nice story about Boris, mr. find out, but he’s a really remarkable man and has flaws, of the thing we all know, but he, I always be grateful to him, because he, I submitted an article on spec to the Spectator about politics.

2:23 I never really wasn’t about politics, and I was sort of hone to learn the ropes. I’d written a few pieces here and there, one of the write for something for Spectator on politics. I send in the piece, don’t hear anything fun. I’m with a friend of mine walking around the National Portrait Gallery. I remember both of us are unemployed, and my phone rings, and it’s Boris, and Boris has read my piece and wants to tell me why it’s not good, and to help me to realize what’s wrong with it, in order that the next time I’ve send in a piece will be better, and then eventually maybe I’ll get published, from my isn’t it.

3:03 And he gave me just a terrific piece of advice, which I will always be grateful to him for, because by the way also people horrible about in journalism general, people Harbor and nurturing, people that were really bad. Like you’ve got to send an absolutely perfect first time or you know, and actually you need encouragement, you need to be shown what to do, who the hell knows what they’re doing, is you’re getting through it. And I remember Boris said, now Douglas, Boris here said, now this is no this is no good, you cut a newsie, we can’t do this.

3:34 He said, the problem is, Douglas, you’ve written us an essay, and he said, it we do it, we don’t want an essay. We don’t run, we don’t run essays, and he said, he said, the problem is you’ve been used to your university professors, and you read out, you read out your essays to them, you see, they’re paid to hear you reading your s isn’t, and to read your essays. Whereas our readers pay to read the things, you see. So it’s got to be better. Good boy, it’s a really good point.

4:02 Do you know I was all used to it. Welcome. We could see this, and on the other hand, you could see this, and in a very real sense, another way. I didn’t know this was a really good piece. If I see, you’ve got to make it good, you’ve got to make it enjoyable, you’ve got to make, they go, they’ve got.

4:14 I want to read it and all that. Nobody tells you that, and that was really good advice, and I’ll always be grateful to him for that. I do a lot of work after that, for me to get it right, but yeah, that was a good piece of career advice.

4:29 Brian Rose: And what, what, what do we not know about Boris? What’s he really like?

4:33 Douglas Murray: I don’t know him well enough. I think he’s, in my view, he is exactly what you see, and the floors and the virtues are all out there, and you all know them, and you appreciate that. Yeah, I think he’s a very remarkable figure. He’s the only person in politics in my adult lifetime who, when you maybe it’s not the case now, but it used to be the case that if you mentioned his name, people felt better. That’s a very unusual trait, and the politician no one ever said, oh yeah, Boris, they liked him.

5:23 I think, thing is, they’re still residue. There’s a little anger about the referendum, obviously. We’ve got to get over that. We’ve got to get over the anger, but yeah, that’s a really remarkable trade to make people feel better as a politician.

5:37 Brian Rose: Yeah, you kind of forget about that sometimes.

5:40 Saying, yeah, what do you think of his book on Churchill?

5:43 Douglas Murray: Haven’t read it.

5:44 Brian Rose: I quite liked it, it was a very political book, but was that was pretty good.

5:49 Douglas Murray: I read Andrew Roberts’s magisterial Beaufort Churchill recently.

5:53 Brian Rose: Okay, that’s a book.

5:54 Yeah, okay, politics for you. Ever?

5:57 Douglas Murray: I suppose I can’t say I never thought about it, but I, most of my life it’s not been possible to be a politician and tell the truth. Yeah, after a nanosecond. Yeah, even if I managed to get in, I’d have the whip drawn on the second bit too much truth.

6:21 Brian Rose: Last part of that question to that 20 year old that’s been watching and listening to us. Advice to them. They’re in this strange world they were born into. This world, a lot of them, where it’s a thing like I wasn’t born into this world. You know, there was nobody, there was no Twitter, there was none of this.

6:38 Advice to them. If they read this and they’re like, okay, how would you say they move forward?

6:47 Douglas Murray: Well, I give, I give them the last chapters, you know, the ways, some of the ways out that we think of. But I think I think that the one of the most important ones is, don’t first of all, don’t do things which will demoralize you. The only things you’ll be ashamed of, and hold your stock high, higher than the era tells you to hold it.

7:18 Don’t put everything out there. Don’t cheapen yourself. Keep something back of yourself. And one piece of advice I was not not given in person, but one of the great joys of reading is that, of course, you get that advice from centuries of people who’ve been thinking before you. One of my favorite quotes is a quote from Schiller.

7:49 He says somewhere, be a part of your age but do not be its creature. And I just say that, 21: be a part of your age, engage yourself in it completely, immerse yourself within, but don’t be its creature. If there’s lots about it you don’t want, don’t want to be a part of, don’t have any part of it you’re part of another age

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